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FreeTrade

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1030

ALSO!!!!!! It appears that almost everyone has the MVTEoEoXmYzFydRfg5uNJRewt9tZ329fAN (Foundation) before MVTEoEo5LgYAMVh95oBBfGPj2eCDzkuJC3 (FreeTrade) in their preferences. As a result, FreeTrade is getting eliminated before people's preference roll over to him. He needs enough votes to survive till the foundation is granted.

Yes, generally speaking in a transferable vote election you need enough first preferences to stay in the race, and enough lower preferences to make it to the end.

FreeTrade

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1030

Quote from: ?? on ??

3) falling Droop Quota? Huh

Is this people wasting votes....Or, is it people who moved their coins to BTER? Is BTER voting their Hot\Cold wallets? Are they wasting their votes?

This is people moving their coin to BTER - I think 30% of coins at least are on BTER now, and BTER hasn't started voting yet.

FreeTrade

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1030

Quote from: SlyWax on August 24, 2013, 10:47:05 AM

FreeTrade, I have some question about the votes,

In the log you can see that some address are eliminated on round 2
Those address have a lots off votes (~10,000)
And on round 4 you see others address are eliminated, but they have a much lower number of votes (~1,000 or less)

How come the biggest get eliminated first ?
Is this a bug ?

No, but it's a good question.

If a candidate doesn't get any first preference votes, they don't show up in the voting rounds until later on, when other candidates are eliminated or elected. Shouldn't make much difference to the results, as usually they'll be eliminated as soon as they appear. I've implemented it this way so that it'll be faster later on when there are a lot of candidates - the algorithm can just eliminate them as they show up rather than at the start.

FreeTrade

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1030

Quote from: minerapia on August 24, 2013, 06:30:10 AM

what blockheight is it now ? atm I see atleast 2 different invalid chains at heights 2479 and 2962. Looks a bit like a forked blockchain to me. Tho it could be some obsolete chains ghosting around while im at initial DL.
EDIT: from debug.log -> "receive version message: version 70001, blocks=4407" hmm....

I heard another report of a problem at height 2479 - if you get stuck on that block, you might need a re-index to get past it. I'm going to look at the nodes to see if I'm advertising a node that is on a ghost chain.

FreeTrade

legendary

Activity: 1470

Merit: 1030

Quote from: ?? on ??

I pieced it together...This is how FreeTrade lost his grant (again)....An account with alot of coins MTukQztMUSXVrNhf9Wa2APd9tt5vKmCoeo sold a 4000+ MEG chunk of coins. That is fine. However, those were coins that spilled over after MVTEoEoUtxKDFLVRJt8c79oqP5C2GB9oBP granted and rolled over to FreeTrade (coins in excess of the first grant) during voting.

When they sold the coins, they no longer flow to FreeTrade, knocking him out of votes for grant.

Yep - you got it spot on.

21stcenturymoney

newbie

Activity: 52

Merit: 0

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hoarders currently have 3 grants now (MVTEoEoUtxKDFLVRJt8c79oqP5C2GB9oBP and MVTEoEoHX4XhRkJnkGVLKDYhHG4MbJDVCT\MVTEoEohmThgMYijuR2oPZSmStTdycrGzp - same person). This is not acceptable. I have cancelled all my BUY orders. No use in supporting a coin that is not meeting its purpose. Hoarders have killed this coin. If not resolved, I'm dumping all mine tomorrow and declaring dead.

Hoarders, join the voting pool, or you will be killing the coin. You are standing in the way of needed development.

I actually think the voting pool had the opposite of the effect that was intended. It took away a number of the mid tier holders votes from the existing grants, and let the hoarders stay in longer then they otherwise would have. Will be interesting to see if that changes anytime soon or not.

I think it is way too soon to call it dead, as the dynamics are still in flux.

stas

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 250

I have tried to switch my voting preferences between "pref 1" and "pref 2" by sending 1 satoshi to the address I wanted to be pref1 and 2 satoshi to the address i wanted to be pref2.
Some how it did not work out...

Sharky444

hero member

Activity: 724

Merit: 500

I have two questions. (related to debug.log)

1.

--------Grant Voting--------
---Current Balances------
8 addresses with balances. Printing Top 20

Are there really only 8 addresses that can be voted for?

2.

I see these lines all over the log:

-------------:
Award Round:0
No Candidates with support remaining. Grant awarded to developer MVTEoEoww5Zz1SJ5DLcbdrxGwSY8VgFZDk
-------------:
Award Round:1
No Candidates with support remaining. Grant awarded to developer MVTEoEoww5Zz1SJ5DLcbdrxGwSY8VgFZDk
-------------:
Award Round:2
No Candidates with support remaining. Grant awarded to developer MVTEoEoww5Zz1SJ5DLcbdrxGwSY8VgFZDk
-------------:
Award Round:3
No Candidates with support remaining. Grant awarded to developer MVTEoEoww5Zz1SJ5DLcbdrxGwSY8VgFZDk
-------------:
Award Round:4
No Candidates with support remaining. Grant awarded to developer MVTEoEoww5Zz1SJ5DLcbdrxGwSY8VgFZDk
--------End Grant Voting--------

Would please someone explain the meaning of them?

21stcenturymoney

newbie

Activity: 52

Merit: 0

Quote from: ?? on ??

Why are the foundations (that are requesting our votes) not voting themselves?

->Balance:1191 - MVTEoEomFfe7WuSEepMLsorgYzCQGBVw1z <-21st Century foundation
---->Wasted:1191 (Add More Preferences)

->Balance:454 - MVTEoEo5LgYAMVh95oBBfGPj2eCDzkuJC3 <-FreeTrade
---->Wasted:454 (Add More Preferences)

The 21st Century foundation has potentially 1191 votes it is not using! Can't they just send one MEG satashi to themselves?

FreeTrade still needs help (your votes) to get grants. {He probably is moving coins to a voting wallet.}

Oh, we are voting. It just seems our votes are currently not mattering.

Also, looks like we have started to lose our grant. I guess the coin users don't like voting to support the coin development.

Zyl

newbie

Activity: 33

Merit: 0

Yes, he tricked you, and lied to all of you.

I know for fact he knows how to setup UPnP.
He has set it up before.

Stinky_Pete

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 500

Quote from: jestronix on August 25, 2013, 12:04:10 AM

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 04:54:27 PM

Quote from: stas on August 24, 2013, 04:37:34 PM

He did not do any pre-mine.
now you are lying.

You don't get it, he tricked you.

Dude, I can sleep easy on this one, he didnt pre-mine or mine while there were problems, look at the block history, do some homework. personally ive had very little errors with mining. People usually post if they are having config issues or problems, most forums are complaints and very little congrats, human nature.

I was in at the beginning, and although it didn't go smoothly, I certainly got the impression FreeTrade was actively trying to sort things out. And he gave all of us early-birds a bonus to make up for it. I don't believe he was trying to trick us.

SlyWax

sr. member

Activity: 248

Merit: 251

I invite people who vote for the Revolution Pool to also vote for FreeTrade as a second choice,
since he is out the grant now.

Anybody else can vote for him to, votes are very low (65%) so it will be easy to get him back in.

jestronix

member

Activity: 75

Merit: 10

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 04:54:27 PM

Quote from: stas on August 24, 2013, 04:37:34 PM

He did not do any pre-mine.
now you are lying.

You don't get it, he tricked you.

Dude, I can sleep easy on this one, he didnt pre-mine or mine while there were problems, look at the block history, do some homework. personally ive had very little errors with mining. People usually post if they are having config issues or problems, most forums are complaints and very little congrats, human nature.

gym520

member

Activity: 80

Merit: 10

not many peole to Know

Zyl

newbie

Activity: 33

Merit: 0

Quote from: stas on August 24, 2013, 04:37:34 PM

He did not do any pre-mine.
now you are lying.

You don't get it, he tricked you.

stas

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 250

He did not do any pre-mine.
now you are lying.

stas

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 250

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 04:26:22 PM

Quote from: stas on August 24, 2013, 04:02:22 PM

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 03:29:01 PM

This coin is a total scam. The manifesto is a lie.

FreeTrade purposefully kept UPnP out of the client so that people wouldn't be able to mine memorycoins.

What are you talking about?
Every one can mine it. (many people do, including me)
What did he lie about?
Accusation without any facts is a lie.
Just keep walking.

FreeTrade did this on purpose because it's a subtle way to cheat all of you without you noticing.

He is a bad person.

It's the reason for all the orphans, the reason most people couldn't get into the network.

There's been 50 alt-coins made by newbies, they all have UPnP support. FreeTrade knows 100% well how to easily set it up in the compile. He did this to make sure that you guys would stay off the network for a while and lose to orphans. It's his version of the pre-mine.

He is a liar.

I am mining from the very beginning. I did not have any orphans.
What is your story with the "UPnP support" Huh

If some one's coin does not have the "UPnP support", than He is a bad person???

How old are you? I mean it. how old are You?

Zyl

newbie

Activity: 33

Merit: 0

Quote from: stas on August 24, 2013, 04:02:22 PM

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 03:29:01 PM

This coin is a total scam. The manifesto is a lie.

FreeTrade purposefully kept UPnP out of the client so that people wouldn't be able to mine memorycoins.

What are you talking about?
Every one can mine it. (many people do, including me)
What did he lie about?
Accusation without any facts is a lie.
Just keep walking.

FreeTrade did this on purpose because it's a subtle way to cheat all of you without you noticing.

He is a bad person.

It's the reason for all the orphans, the reason most people couldn't get into the network.

There's been 50 alt-coins made by newbies, they all have UPnP support. FreeTrade knows 100% well how to easily set it up in the compile. He did this to make sure that you guys would stay off the network for a while and lose to orphans. It's his version of the pre-mine.

He is a liar.

tacotime

legendary

Activity: 1484

Merit: 1005

Code:

SHA512((pbegin == pend ? pblank : (unsigned char*)&pbegin[0]), (pend - pbegin) * sizeof(pbegin[0]), (unsigned char*)&csoh);
for(int i=0;i<12;i++){
scrypt(csoh, HASHLENGTH, csoh, HASHLENGTH, 12, 1, 1, (unsigned char*)&csoh, HASHLENGTH);
for(int j=0;j<10;j++){
scrypt(csoh, HASHLENGTH, csoh, HASHLENGTH, 8, 1, 1, (unsigned char*)&csoh, HASHLENGTH);
SHA512(csoh, HASHLENGTH, (unsigned char*)&csoh);
}
}
scrypt(csoh, HASHLENGTH, csoh, HASHLENGTH, 10, 8, 1, (unsigned char*)&csoh, HASHLENGTH);
uint256 hash2;
SHA256((unsigned char*)&csoh, sizeof(csoh), (unsigned char*)&hash2);

This should still be easily implementable on the GPU, you just need to test and coordinate what the proper load balancing would be. Via the TMTO trick, you can reduce memory consumption of the larger memory hashes and subsequently take longer to do them; so, you pipe a large number of these threads along with a small number of threads doing the small memory hashes and you should still get a pretty solid GPU advantage.

stas

sr. member

Activity: 420

Merit: 250

Quote from: Zyl on August 24, 2013, 03:29:01 PM

This coin is a total scam. The manifesto is a lie.

FreeTrade purposefully kept UPnP out of the client so that people wouldn't be able to mine memorycoins.

What are you talking about?
Every one can mine it. (many people do, including me)
What did he lie about?
Accusation without any facts is a lie.
Just keep walking.

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