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Topic: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - Community Fund Live!!! - page 414. (Read 2085654 times)

legendary
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Well hello there!
Times a wasting fellas. Really need to get the stolen coin exclusion fix worked out guys or this is going to be one helluva short ride on the Ole nav train
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
IF Cryptsy decides to never re-Open the Navajocoin Wallet out of maintenance then we will never see our NAV coins again correct?

Then some time in the future someone decides to take advantage of the forgotten NAV on that exchange. Some tech with greedy intentions.

How will we stop that.?

This scenario will always be in the back of every one's mind. This subject can be used in the future to destabilize the value of this coin.

So I would suggest that the Navajocoin Development Team have a long Hard think about what future impact may and could happen with the coins remaining with Cryptsy.

Is there a way to destroy those coins and can NAV take a Leadership role and show the Altcoin world that we can as a Community Cryptocurrency show we have the knowledge and insight to control our own destiny and not be left ransom to any outside third party.

Yes our coins have not been stolen but we can not see Crpysty coming back to the Crypto Arena as a Trading platform. If so the NAV coins that remain there can be traded unfairly on another exchange by dishonest people.

We should solve this issue before the release of Decentralization.

a hardfork to a new blockchain will permanently fix this ...

no matter what they do with the 'other' coins ...

i know thats a drastic measure - but for peace of mind - thats the way to go ...

all it takes is for EVERYONE who has / owns nav - to swap it to the new blockchain - thats it ...

if the nav team are capable of of all the things that they have done so far - this will be an easy code ... the complexity comes from the coinswap ... for both the community and the exchanges - thats all ..

have this happen - and you will never worry about the 'lost' or 'stolen' coins again ...

the downfall of cryptsy is a big deal and was a drastic taking - so treat it as a big deal and get some drastic and permanent measures in place ...

#crysx
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000
IF Cryptsy decides to never re-Open the Navajocoin Wallet out of maintenance then we will never see our NAV coins again correct?

Then some time in the future someone decides to take advantage of the forgotten NAV on that exchange. Some tech with greedy intentions.

How will we stop that.?

This scenario will always be in the back of every one's mind. This subject can be used in the future to destabilize the value of this coin.

So I would suggest that the Navajocoin Development Team have a long Hard think about what future impact may and could happen with the coins remaining with Cryptsy.

Is there a way to destroy those coins and can NAV take a Leadership role and show the Altcoin world that we can as a Community Cryptocurrency show we have the knowledge and insight to control our own destiny and not be left ransom to any outside third party.

Yes our coins have not been stolen but we can not see Crpysty coming back to the Crypto Arena as a Trading platform. If so the NAV coins that remain there can be traded unfairly on another exchange by dishonest people.

We should solve this issue before the release of Decentralization.
hero member
Activity: 794
Merit: 510
NavCoin Founder
Hi Nav Community.

Due to my work commitments I have been unable to find the time to work on NAV this week unfortunately. I have just finished an 80 hour working week and this week coming is probably going to be much the same with the release date (7 March) of my work project drawing near. Despite my work load this week I will again attempt to find time to work on NAV and will hopefully have some more progress for you all to see by the next weekly update. From next week onwards I will have approximately 20 hours per week to work finishing the decentralisation project and then from the end of March I will have around 40 hours per week to spend working on cryptocurrency projects. So you can expect progress to begin ramping up from next week onwards.

Progress so far has been consistent and tangible over the last couple of months and it will all fall into place and we can release the decentralised anon network!

All the best,
Craig.
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Please stop spreading fud all the time. As said there is no proove that nav was stolen from cryptsy. All they say is that bitcoin, litecoin, btcd and xc are moved away from cryptsy wallets. Read the blog, all information are there.

The coins that got stolen also have been moved outside to another wallet. No move on other wallets than the mentioned ones at all. When i steal a wallet,  i move them coins as fast as possible, so the owner can not send the coins to a new secure wallet. And I would wonder if cryptsy only had one cold backup...

And by the way, cryptsy wrote they are in contact with official police,  FBI and that is why also moving the coins or using an exchange would show identity or at least leave some traces about the poeple tjat have done this.

There is no stolen nav! Proove me wrong.


If you read a little more carefully .. you can see that I don't claim the coins have been stolen in the Hack ..
Its not Fud..
Did Nav devs contact Cryptsy several times to help them get the Wallet out of maintenance yes or no ?
Ill answer for you YES because ive seen it posted here.
So Crypsty is holding the coins for some reason its been longer then 3 months now since "maintenance" on Nav wallets started on cryptsy.
I was unable to withdraw my funds.
"When I steal a wallet" .. No dev should use those words.
Cryptsy is/was run by thieves they lied to people asked for Id's when they where well aware that the difficulties had Nothing to do with that.
I'm not saying Nav was stolen by Thieves from Cryptsy I'm saying Cryptsy Are the Thieves And the "missing" BTC LTC DASH was probably stolen by them as well.
There is a thread up where people are tracing where everything went take a look before you defend Cryptsy again.
 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.6720

hero member
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www.pumpmycoin.com
there is a suggestion that can I need a hard fork for those stolen coins from Cryptsy that gives otpadenie need for further work on the coin return, of course, it too, if it can be stolen again and this constantly to do plugs, but as another opportunity, just don't think it's the return of coins, but it may take years, or they can sneak somewhere to manifest and harm the process

...it may be just the need to mine lost coins for everyone
legendary
Activity: 1082
Merit: 1002
Please stop spreading fud all the time. As said there is no proove that nav was stolen from cryptsy. All they say is that bitcoin, litecoin, btcd and xc are moved away from cryptsy wallets. Read the blog, all information are there.

The coins that got stolen also have been moved outside to another wallet. No move on other wallets than the mentioned ones at all. When i steal a wallet,  i move them coins as fast as possible, so the owner can not send the coins to a new secure wallet. And I would wonder if cryptsy only had one cold backup...

And by the way, cryptsy wrote they are in contact with official police,  FBI and that is why also moving the coins or using an exchange would show identity or at least leave some traces about the poeple tjat have done this.

There is no stolen nav! Proove me wrong.
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Read upper posts everybody wrote that one from top 3 NAV wallet from cryptsy was stolen.
Anyway price nothing go and not rise without any cause like finished update/event. So some worry about stolen coins from Cryptsy dont matter at this moment.
Peace.

I think you missed the point.
The Nav might not have been stolen in the "Hack"*(that was probably done by Big Vern and his cronies) .. but by the thieves that RUN Cryptsy --yes you Big Vern -- ..
Those millions of navs have been Locked inside cryptsy for months now after they put the wallet in maintenance.
Big vern has Lied to everyone for over a year about their funds tricking many people into putting a lot of money into cryptsy (customers) because they thought it was safe.
The Nav Devs have offered to help cryptsy to Fix their wallet so We the customers could withdraw our funds ,, they where Ignored for Months ..
Crypsty is going down they are insolvent they sold other alt coins to try and hide their losses in BTC LTC Dash coins that Did not belong to them but to their Customers.
They hold one of the top 3 nav wallets They refuse(or rather just ignore requests) to get the wallet out of maintenance so we can withdraw our Nav.
People that are that dishonest as they have proven to be should not hold close to 10% of you total coin supply None in their right mind would invest in such a coin.

hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
Read upper posts everybody wrote that one from top 3 NAV wallet from cryptsy was stolen.
Anyway price nothing go and not rise without any cause like finished update/event. So some worry about stolen coins from Cryptsy dont matter at this moment.
Peace.
hero member
Activity: 849
Merit: 507
I think price will fall with this news. On bids on both markets Bittrex and Poloniex not enought buyer to buy all stolen coins when thief dump. Except 1 satoshi bids Sad

Edit: somebody want save the price on Bittrex and put 2 x bid walls @500s & @450s each 1 BTC. Stupid move imho.

guys are you crazy?! What stolen coins? there is no any evidence the thief has navajo from cryptsy.Nobody knows if any crypto was stolen!
please calm down and dont try to lower price with that comments...
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
I think price will fall with this news. On bids on both markets Bittrex and Poloniex not enought buyer to buy all stolen coins when thief dump. Except 1 satoshi bids Sad

Edit: somebody want save the price on Bittrex and put 2 x bid walls @500s & @450s each 1 BTC. Stupid move imho.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
i do believe that damage control should be discussed by the devs about the cryptsy coins.
These coins have officially been swindled, they could be dumped now, in a year, or maybe never. who knows, i just believe damage control needs to be discussed and should be transparent.
But this goes for every single dev with any alt coins in cryptsy limbo. All coin devs should be discussing what to do to prevent those wallets from ever hitting the market.
It's been long enough that something can and will happen. it might not be nav coin, but someone will get hit. please, all devs heed this message and discuss it at least. if hard forks are needed, then maybe it should be discussed and plans/funds laid out.
Please also keep in mind that nothing is beneath someone who blew millions of someone elses money. when they are comfortable from running, they will strike and drain what funds they can only to run again.
The longer this issue continues to loom over this coin, the longer it's price will continue to decline as a result of the massive amount of uncertainty.  If you guys really want to see this coin survive 2016 I strongly encouraging getting together to discuss this issue at length and coming to a consensus on how to move forward asap.  This coin's overall liquidity and marketcap is in absolutely no shape whatsoever to even withstand a modest selloff of known scam coins from cryptsy exchange.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
i do believe that damage control should be discussed by the devs about the cryptsy coins.
These coins have officially been swindled, they could be dumped now, in a year, or maybe never. who knows, i just believe damage control needs to be discussed and should be transparent.
But this goes for every single dev with any alt coins in cryptsy limbo. All coin devs should be discussing what to do to prevent those wallets from ever hitting the market.
It's been long enough that something can and will happen. it might not be nav coin, but someone will get hit. please, all devs heed this message and discuss it at least. if hard forks are needed, then maybe it should be discussed and plans/funds laid out.
Please also keep in mind that nothing is beneath someone who blew millions of someone elses money. when they are comfortable from running, they will strike and drain what funds they can only to run again.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1000





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full member
Activity: 260
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What's wrong? There are good changes but price is going down.

It's the calm before the storm buddy!

I dreaming about megatsunami 10ksat;
hero member
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NavCoin Founder
What's wrong? There are good changes but price is going down.

It's the calm before the storm buddy!
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Then again, they may just keep them for when they come out of prison as an investment. Why sell for a few BTC when theoretically they could be worth a lot more in 10+ years.....

These "thieves" have done a scam worth millions and millions. I don't think Nav is on the radar..... yet.

So when you steal so many btc  and ltc, you don't care about other crypto!  where does this come from, that the cryptsy nav wallet is stolen?  All speculations...

Have you been sleeping?..... NO ONE can withdraw NAV and many other currencies since this happened. They knew about it for over a year (Big Vern stated that) and now it's all miraculously gone?

My point was that they are not going to bother trying to sell nav for a few hundred dollars when they have 1000's of BTC, Dash, LTC etc.

Perfect said!

I gotta disagree with you there , you don't let a monkey hold a loaded gun especially after he already shot some of your neighbours.
We shouldn't just let cryptsy keep allthose coins to dump at a time of their choosing.
Exacly as you said u Think its not worth it to them to dump for a few btc , but that would mean if nav rises at some point it will be worth it to them to dump it all.
you don't want that hanging over our heads its to much of a risk in any pump situation at any give moment they could dump 4-6 mln navs on us that they STOLE .. that's just not right Id love to see a hard fork or whatever is needed to stop them from spending coins they Stole .. Nav devs have repeatedly offered to help them fix the wallet so we would be able to withdraw they where just Ignored ..

that's just my 2cents.
legendary
Activity: 2165
Merit: 1002
Just a heads up. The NAV blockchain is accelerating again.
I don't know for how long, I just noticed the average time between blocks is smaller than it should.
Not by much, maybe 23-24 sec instead of 30 but it was spot on for quite a while.
sr. member
Activity: 621
Merit: 250
Then again, they may just keep them for when they come out of prison as an investment. Why sell for a few BTC when theoretically they could be worth a lot more in 10+ years.....

These "thieves" have done a scam worth millions and millions. I don't think Nav is on the radar..... yet.

So when you steal so many btc  and ltc, you don't care about other crypto!  where does this come from, that the cryptsy nav wallet is stolen?  All speculations...

Have you been sleeping?..... NO ONE can withdraw NAV and many other currencies since this happened. They knew about it for over a year (Big Vern stated that) and now it's all miraculously gone?

My point was that they are not going to bother trying to sell nav for a few hundred dollars when they have 1000's of BTC, Dash, LTC etc.

Perfect said!
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 100
What's wrong? There are good changes but price is going down.
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