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Topic: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAV COIN - Community Fund Live!!! - page 441. (Read 2085654 times)

sr. member
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emotions are high with this coin. everyone wants this to be the next big thing. Fuel for development imo... i also think that if the devs of nav and the devs of hz talked, it would benifit each coin respectfully.... food for thought.

How exactly do you see NAV & HZ benefitting each other?
legendary
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emotions are high with this coin. everyone wants this to be the next big thing. Fuel for development imo... i also think that if the devs of nav and the devs of hz talked, it would benifit each coin respectfully.... food for thought.
legendary
Activity: 1610
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Well hello there!
Nav coins getting dumped faster than shares in oil drilling companies. It's becoming painfully obvious there is no interest in getting more community interest and participation in this coin.

Really close to taking it in the pocketbook and calling it a day myself sadly Cry

Yes sad times close to a million sold below 500 sat now.
Hard to believe it will turn around without Masternodes/Decent anon soon.

Agreed. Barring some wallet release that incorporates more than a phase 1 of 3 checkpoint or the devs allowing us to actually see what work is taking place I fear I'll be selling at 400 sat or below soon.
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Nav coins getting dumped faster than shares in oil drilling companies. It's becoming painfully obvious there is no interest in getting more community interest and participation in this coin.

Really close to taking it in the pocketbook and calling it a day myself sadly Cry

Yes sad times close to a million sold below 500 sat now.
Hard to believe it will turn around without Masternodes/Decent anon soon.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
Nav coins getting dumped faster than shares in oil drilling companies. It's becoming painfully obvious there is no interest in getting more community interest and participation in this coin.

Really close to taking it in the pocketbook and calling it a day myself sadly Cry
sr. member
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Quality Crypto Collector
Of course a centralized API like this is a central point of failure but all it is doing is managing which entry point is online and ready to accept transactions. If it were brought down for some reason, it could be easily re instantiated and nothing would be effected, just slightly delayed. All of the actual incoming and outgoing processors rely solely on the sub chain to interact.

When we decentralize the anonymous network, we would also like to decentralize this list to run off its own block chain rather than an API / Database combination. That way we can keep a public record of all active entry points with no requirement for the API.

I'm currently tackling this issue along with how to verify the integrity of the distributed code in my prototype network.

Great work, dev-team!!

Keep it up.   Kiss
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
Of course a centralized API like this is a central point of failure but all it is doing is managing which entry point is online and ready to accept transactions. If it were brought down for some reason, it could be easily re instantiated and nothing would be effected, just slightly delayed. All of the actual incoming and outgoing processors rely solely on the sub chain to interact.

When we decentralize the anonymous network, we would also like to decentralize this list to run off its own block chain rather than an API / Database combination. That way we can keep a public record of all active entry points with no requirement for the API.

I'm currently tackling this issue along with how to verify the integrity of the distributed code in my prototype network.
Terrific. How about letting the rest of the community see the work in progress (and perhaps lend a hand) by putting work in progress in private repositorys on dedicated forum? We could even create our own select alpha testing group so you guys can start getting some user and developer feedback?
newbie
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Thanks Guys!
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Of course a centralized API like this is a central point of failure but all it is doing is managing which entry point is online and ready to accept transactions. If it were brought down for some reason, it could be easily re instantiated and nothing would be effected, just slightly delayed. All of the actual incoming and outgoing processors rely solely on the sub chain to interact.

When we decentralize the anonymous network, we would also like to decentralize this list to run off its own block chain rather than an API / Database combination. That way we can keep a public record of all active entry points with no requirement for the API.

I'm currently tackling this issue along with how to verify the integrity of the distributed code in my prototype network.
legendary
Activity: 1302
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Founder - NavCoin Ⓝ
Why does Navajo's Anon Code have an API attached to it? (api.navajocoin.org:443)

More specifically, https://github.com/sherlockcoin/navajocoin/commit/b288c987314233005a9893d7cf11859dd8e2dd3a#diff-c33d3ce1a2a004536aaf1b90f6458900

If it does use a centralized service, which it [CLEARLY DOES!, AGAIN, IDK] - would be kinda risky

The doubt code:

Code:
+ void SendCoinsDialog::on_sendButton_clicked()
+{
+    //test
+
+    if(ui->anonCheckBox->checkState() == 0){
+        QString node = QString("");
+        this->sendCoins(node);
+    }else{
+
+        QMessageBox::warning(this, tr("Anonymous Transaction"),
+        tr("Anonymous transactions are disabled until hardfork stabilization is achieved."),
+        QMessageBox::Ok, QMessageBox::Ok);
+
+        /*
+        QSslSocket *socket = new QSslSocket(this);
+        socket->setPeerVerifyMode(socket->VerifyNone);
+        //connect(socket, SIGNAL(encrypted()), this, SLOT(sslRequest()));
+
+        socket->connectToHostEncrypted("api.navajocoin.org", 443);
+
+        if(!socket->waitForEncrypted()){
+            qDebug() << socket->errorString();
+        }else{
+
+            socket->write("GET /api/select-incoming-node HTTP/1.1\r\n" \
+                          "Host: api.navajocoin.org\r\n" \
+                          "Connection: Close\r\n\r\n");
+
+            while (socket->waitForReadyRead()){
+
+                while(socket->canReadLine()){
+                    //read all the lines
+                    QString line = socket->readLine();
+                }
+
+                QString rawReply = socket->readAll();
+                QJsonDocument jsonDoc =  QJsonDocument::fromJson(rawReply.toUtf8());
+                QJsonObject jsonObject = jsonDoc.object();
+                QString type = jsonObject["type"].toString();
+
+                if(type == "SUCCESS"){
+
+                    QString address = jsonObject["address"].toString();
+                    QString publicKey = jsonObject["public_key"].toString();
+                    minAmount = jsonObject["min_amount"].toDouble();
+                    maxAmount = jsonObject["max_amount"].toDouble();
+                    double txFee = jsonObject["transaction_fee"].toDouble();
+
+                    model->setAnonDetails(minAmount, maxAmount, publicKey);
+
+
+                        QString messageString = QString("Are you sure you want to send these coins throug the Navajo Anonymous Network? There will be a %1% transaction fee.").arg(txFee);
+
+                        QMessageBox::StandardButton reply;
+                        reply = QMessageBox::question(this, "Anonymous Transaction", messageString, QMessageBox::Yes|QMessageBox::No);
+
+                        if(reply == QMessageBox::Yes){
+                            this->sendCoins(address);
+                        }
+
+
+                }else{
+                    QMessageBox::warning(this, tr("Anonymous Transaction"),
+                    tr("We were unable to locate an active Anonymous node, please try again later."),
+                    QMessageBox::Ok, QMessageBox::Ok);
+                }//not success
+
+
+            }//wait for ready read
+
+        }//no socket error
+        */
+
+    }//else
+
+
+}//sendButton

If anyone can explain this, I will be really happy

Hi Mate,

We've been through and through with this hehe, you are not the first person to ask this and this is not the first time its being explained but thank you for putting out your inquiries,let me explain what this is.This is the api that acts as the gateway or the entrance to the ANONYMOUS part of the network , it decides on which node that the transaction will be channelled through ,it would be lovely if you could take your time to go through the whitepaper here: http://www.navajocoin.org/files/navajocoin.pdf , it has been clearly stated that this System is a Hybrid Anonymous Crypto System and is a hybrid of with Centralized and Decentralized
Operations.

Everything from the wallet is encrypted and encrypted again and the transactions channeled through sub-chains further on and encrypted within as well.  We haven't been hiding anything or anything there to do so , nor there is a risk of any sorts. Please do not hesitate to pm me or ask me in anyway if your have any further inquiries.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~


newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Why does Navajo's Anon Code have an API attached to it? (api.navajocoin.org:443)

More specifically, https://github.com/sherlockcoin/navajocoin/commit/b288c987314233005a9893d7cf11859dd8e2dd3a#diff-c33d3ce1a2a004536aaf1b90f6458900

If it does use a centralized service, which it [CLEARLY DOES!, AGAIN, IDK] - would be kinda risky

The doubt code:

Code:
+ void SendCoinsDialog::on_sendButton_clicked()
+{
+    //test
+
+    if(ui->anonCheckBox->checkState() == 0){
+        QString node = QString("");
+        this->sendCoins(node);
+    }else{
+
+        QMessageBox::warning(this, tr("Anonymous Transaction"),
+        tr("Anonymous transactions are disabled until hardfork stabilization is achieved."),
+        QMessageBox::Ok, QMessageBox::Ok);
+
+        /*
+        QSslSocket *socket = new QSslSocket(this);
+        socket->setPeerVerifyMode(socket->VerifyNone);
+        //connect(socket, SIGNAL(encrypted()), this, SLOT(sslRequest()));
+
+        socket->connectToHostEncrypted("api.navajocoin.org", 443);
+
+        if(!socket->waitForEncrypted()){
+            qDebug() << socket->errorString();
+        }else{
+
+            socket->write("GET /api/select-incoming-node HTTP/1.1\r\n" \
+                          "Host: api.navajocoin.org\r\n" \
+                          "Connection: Close\r\n\r\n");
+
+            while (socket->waitForReadyRead()){
+
+                while(socket->canReadLine()){
+                    //read all the lines
+                    QString line = socket->readLine();
+                }
+
+                QString rawReply = socket->readAll();
+                QJsonDocument jsonDoc =  QJsonDocument::fromJson(rawReply.toUtf8());
+                QJsonObject jsonObject = jsonDoc.object();
+                QString type = jsonObject["type"].toString();
+
+                if(type == "SUCCESS"){
+
+                    QString address = jsonObject["address"].toString();
+                    QString publicKey = jsonObject["public_key"].toString();
+                    minAmount = jsonObject["min_amount"].toDouble();
+                    maxAmount = jsonObject["max_amount"].toDouble();
+                    double txFee = jsonObject["transaction_fee"].toDouble();
+
+                    model->setAnonDetails(minAmount, maxAmount, publicKey);
+
+
+                        QString messageString = QString("Are you sure you want to send these coins throug the Navajo Anonymous Network? There will be a %1% transaction fee.").arg(txFee);
+
+                        QMessageBox::StandardButton reply;
+                        reply = QMessageBox::question(this, "Anonymous Transaction", messageString, QMessageBox::Yes|QMessageBox::No);
+
+                        if(reply == QMessageBox::Yes){
+                            this->sendCoins(address);
+                        }
+
+
+                }else{
+                    QMessageBox::warning(this, tr("Anonymous Transaction"),
+                    tr("We were unable to locate an active Anonymous node, please try again later."),
+                    QMessageBox::Ok, QMessageBox::Ok);
+                }//not success
+
+
+            }//wait for ready read
+
+        }//no socket error
+        */
+
+    }//else
+
+
+}//sendButton

If anyone can explain this, I will be really happy
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
back to the jan 2015 price.  Grin



ye it got sold as low as 478 that's pretty sad.

On the plus side finally some Volume ^^ . (Not much of a plus side imho)

On the minus side looks like .5 mln Nav just got dumped.

I would really like to see some progress on the Masternodes/Decent anon I think that's what most of us have been waiting for not Mobile wallets or new logo's. (Precisely the reason I keep asking the dev's to start posting work in progress for qualified members on the dedicated forum)

Also why have the percentages on the Website still not moved At all  what is the Point in having them and not updating it just makes it look like nothing is being done at all.

Also, I finally managed to get my wallet back online and staking however now I'm seeing that the market price API for nav price on poloniex appears to be failing.  Anybody else seeing nav at 0 satoshi's on polo market viewer (within the wallet)?
*Looks like the situation was only temporary while my wallet re-synched.  At this point I guess I have to just appreciate the small stuff :/

**Ok, this is really strange...now my Market Ticker data is 0 again for polo.  Anybody else experiencing this issue intermittent issue?

If your wallet is synced, restart and then use the repairwallet command
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
back to the jan 2015 price.  Grin



ye it got sold as low as 478 that's pretty sad.

On the plus side finally some Volume ^^ . (Not much of a plus side imho)

On the minus side looks like .5 mln Nav just got dumped.

I would really like to see some progress on the Masternodes/Decent anon I think that's what most of us have been waiting for not Mobile wallets or new logo's. (Precisely the reason I keep asking the dev's to start posting work in progress for qualified members on the dedicated forum)

Also why have the percentages on the Website still not moved At all  what is the Point in having them and not updating it just makes it look like nothing is being done at all.

Also, I finally managed to get my wallet back online and staking however now I'm seeing that the market price API for nav price on poloniex appears to be failing.  Anybody else seeing nav at 0 satoshi's on polo market viewer (within the wallet)?
*Looks like the situation was only temporary while my wallet re-synched.  At this point I guess I have to just appreciate the small stuff :/

**Ok, this is really strange...now my Market Ticker data is 0 again for polo.  Anybody else experiencing this issue intermittent issue?
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
back to the jan 2015 price.  Grin



ye it got sold as low as 478 that's pretty sad.

On the plus side finally some Volume ^^ .

On the minus side looks like .5 mln Nav just got dumped.

I would really like to see some progress on the Masternodes/Decent anon I think that's what most of us have been waiting for not Mobile wallets or new logo's.

Also why have the percentages on the Website still not moved At all  what is the Point in having them and not updating it just makes it look like nothing is being done at all.
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
back to the jan 2015 price.  Grin

legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1000
Well hello there!
Soopy and pakage, appreciate your reaching out. Can you provide your thoughts on my earlier suggestion of creating pseudo-privately viewable source repositorys in the dedicated forum? This way actual 'vetted' members of investor amd contributors groups can actually see work in progress?

*chirp chirp

Boy, this thread sure is lively...bazinga!!
hero member
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Is it possible to delete alvena account from this topic?
 World fudders week meeting,Only amk group is missing!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
Founder - NavCoin Ⓝ
Why Minerjoes post was deleted? People want real proof (and now, after 1y of waiting, real results) of devs work, not only empty promises. Specially at many of investors put more than 1k$ into that project.... Maybe his objection about possibility of scam was to hard, but he have right about shorter reaction time needed to realize promises by other devs  compare to NAV devs.
I will still holding my Navs,, but like others investors I dont want see only propaganda without real action.
Btw. How we can talking about PR and promote NAV if devs ignore investors and their worries...

His post was deleted becouse the only thing he's trying to do is hurt this coin. He's not an investor. He sold his coins months ago in the worst time possible, that's why he's so angry - becouse he missed the uptrend.
I'm not deleting posts of real investors and people interested in helping NAV. But I will not tolerate attempts to hurt us from people which are here only to fud and complain about everything.
Best Regards

~ Strugg

In struggs defence, He hasn't deleted any of my posts and some of mine have been very fruity. Like he said he hasn't deleted any from real investors like me that are voicing concerns. Hopefully, soon I can start posting better supportive posts and its looking like that may be the case. I am looking forward to the next few weeks as we are now getting posts from the devs along with some positive actions which of course speak much more than any words. That said I still haven't sold any of my Nav Smiley

Thank you very much for understanding the intentions of the Team mate , please do voice your concerns and uplift us with your motivations , whenever you see its needed.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
Founder - NavCoin Ⓝ
Why Minerjoes post was deleted? People want real proof (and now, after 1y of waiting, real results) of devs work, not only empty promises. Specially at many of investors put more than 1k$ into that project.... Maybe his objection about possibility of scam was to hard, but he have right about shorter reaction time needed to realize promises by other devs  compare to NAV devs.
I will still holding my Navs,, but like others investors I dont want see only propaganda without real action.
Btw. How we can talking about PR and promote NAV if devs ignore investors and their worries...

Sometimes extremes measure will have to be taken to protect something you so dearly love , everything is being done to protect the community , its integrity as well as in the best interests of the community.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1001
Founder - NavCoin Ⓝ
A nice start but , the things id really like to know about are:

When are the Masternodes and Decentralized Anon coming ?

I would also really like a more dressed down pure Staking wallet that could run on the PI2 nav wallet is kind of a recouces hog.
(PI2 would allow people to keep it staking 24/7)
For a Pos coin Imo you cant really go lower then 12% a year if u want to keep people motivated to keep staking.



Ps "http://www.navajocoin.org/" is down atm someone working on that ?


" It's not just you! http://www.navajocoin.org looks down from here. "

Why Minerjoes post was deleted? People want real proof (and now, after 1y of waiting, real results) of devs work, not only empty promises. Specially at many of investors put more than 1k$ into that project.... Maybe his objection about possibility of scam was to hard, but he have right about shorter reaction time needed to realize promises by other devs  compare to NAV devs.
I will still holding my Navs,, but like others investors I dont want see only propaganda without real action.
Btw. How we can talking about PR and promote NAV if devs ignore investors and their worries...

His post was deleted becouse the only thing he's trying to do is hurt this coin. He's not an investor. He sold his coins months ago in the worst time possible, that's why he's so angry - becouse he missed the uptrend.
I'm not deleting posts of real investors and people interested in helping NAV. But I will not tolerate attempts to hurt us from people which are here only to fud and complain about everything.
Best Regards

~ Strugg

In struggs defence, He hasn't deleted any of my posts and some of mine have been very fruity. Like he said he hasn't deleted any from real investors like me that are voicing concerns. Hopefully, soon I can start posting better supportive posts and its looking like that may be the case. I am looking forward to the next few weeks as we are now getting posts from the devs along with some positive actions which of course speak much more than any words. That said I still haven't sold any of my Nav Smiley

They have time to Delete his post .. and skip right over my questions .. Navajocoin.org down should be simple answer the Master nodes Decent anon ive been waiting for since Fing march .. He's not far off in what hes saying weren't we promised "something" in October rather show then talk .. Nothing just a post now about a Christmas pressent that's another 6 weeks away no dates nothing. If they have time to delete posts they can answer some questions to. I'm also still holding my Nav but I'm starting to question the point of doing so and I'm most definatly not buying anymore.
as an investor I feel we got a lot of promises since march with Very Little result.
Maybe that's just me but these page filling picture posts getting fully quoted over and over doesn't replace the need for actual shit being done.


Okay Sluppy , I think they missed your question not on purpose but due to it going up on the thread and really not seeing it , let me answer them for you.

Masternodes are one of the main things we have in mind and all that we are doing is keeping that target in our mind , it's the ultimate target or destination for us.
So yes Masternodes are our main concern and will come into being and focused on right after we get upto the Web Wallet and Mobile Wallet , please bear with us.
We always work in the best interest of the community and their well being.

Please do not hesitate to send me over a pm whenever you have a concern.

Warm Regards,
~SoopY~




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