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Hey guys, soopy is finishing integrating BIP32, we'll post an update once that task is finished.
Best Regards Wink

Strugg


Thats all? road map will be finished to anounced time?
legendary
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Mr Whale has his/her mouth wide open for a while now. Thanks for the update on Finalization and maybe some screen shots could satisfy the Crypto God's. If not I will give Mr Whale some disant competition this week  Smiley I think a few of us will do that.

I  can guess the whole Navajocoin Community and the Dev team will be happy to see this Web Wallet released for all to use. We also do appreciate the work being put in by Soopy. Yes their is no hiding the time taken but I  know I will then  get to see the  Navajo Mobile Wallet that what Im really truly  excited 4
hero member
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Hey guys, soopy is finishing integrating BIP32, we'll post an update once that task is finished.
Best Regards Wink

Strugg

That's great and all, but any GitHub branch available where we can follow the development?
legendary
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Hey guys, soopy is finishing integrating BIP32, we'll post an update once that task is finished.
Best Regards Wink

Strugg
sr. member
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They walk among us...
I did notice the first page in this thread (with the new logo etc.) now shows master nodes, mobile wallet etc. in fact everything is now listed as coming in August….. however the website still says june / july…..

Cpme on guys the natives are getting restless. An update please. It will only take as long as it takes to post on the OC thread.   Huh
legendary
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Am i right in thinking that soopy is also the dev for orange coin too? Might explain the delays and radio silence  Sad

I didn't even know about OC but

It seems a new (unknown) den has taken over the project
Greedyjohn has been frequenting their thread (and I haven't seen him around this one) for a while, promoting OC
They advertise anon transactions and masternodes!
NAV has suffered delay upon delay and lately barely gets even progress reports.

This proves nothing but should be enough to get anyone thinking.

Any comments from the dev team, or even better progress reports?
Your thoughts were exactly what i was concluding…….
We will probably be told to stop fudding and have our posts deleted but as I hold over 1 million Nav and have donated to the devs numerous times it would be nice to know whats going on.
Exactly, +1 on that.

An active development team should always keep in touch with the community and keep them us to date. But what's there to tell if there's no development going on, right..?

Yes totally agree Its not FUD its Fact .. their 23 days "late" a small update on the progress would Not be out of place imo and Asking for it should not be considerd fudding ..


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Am i right in thinking that soopy is also the dev for orange coin too? Might explain the delays and radio silence  Sad

I didn't even know about OC but

It seems a new (unknown) den has taken over the project
Greedyjohn has been frequenting their thread (and I haven't seen him around this one) for a while, promoting OC
They advertise anon transactions and masternodes!
NAV has suffered delay upon delay and lately barely gets even progress reports.

This proves nothing but should be enough to get anyone thinking.

Any comments from the dev team, or even better progress reports?
Your thoughts were exactly what i was concluding…….
We will probably be told to stop fudding and have our posts deleted but as I hold over 1 million Nav and have donated to the devs numerous times it would be nice to know whats going on.
Exactly, +1 on that.

An active development team should always keep in touch with the community and keep them us to date. But what's there to tell if there's no development going on, right..?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
They walk among us...
Am i right in thinking that soopy is also the dev for orange coin too? Might explain the delays and radio silence  Sad

I didn't even know about OC but

It seems a new (unknown) den has taken over the project
Greedyjohn has been frequenting their thread (and I haven't seen him around this one) for a while, promoting OC
They advertise anon transactions and masternodes!
NAV has suffered delay upon delay and lately barely gets even progress reports.

This proves nothing but should be enough to get anyone thinking.

Any comments from the dev team, or even better progress reports?
Your thoughts were exactly what i was concluding…….
We will probably be told to stop fudding and have our posts deleted but as I hold over 1 million Nav and have donated to the devs numerous times it would be nice to know whats going on.
legendary
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Am i right in thinking that soopy is also the dev for orange coin too? Might explain the delays and radio silence  Sad

I didn't even know about OC but

It seems a new (unknown) den has taken over the project
Greedyjohn has been frequenting their thread (and I haven't seen him around this one) for a while, promoting OC
They advertise anon transactions and masternodes!
NAV has suffered delay upon delay and lately barely gets even progress reports.

This proves nothing but should be enough to get anyone thinking.

Any comments from the dev team, or even better progress reports?
sr. member
Activity: 373
Merit: 250
They walk among us...
Am i right in thinking that soopy is also the dev for orange coin too? Might explain the delays and radio silence  Sad
legendary
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Are we still doing sunday progress updates strugg?
legendary
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66mrE9gDVFg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5YoU6EsYhU

~HaShForce101~
Navajo Web Wallet. Any where Any time. Coming Soon!
sr. member
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They walk among us...
Hi Guys...
Have you notice a bit of movement on Bittrex...Somebody knows something???

All i know is that Nav is relatively cheap right now and the devs ALWAYS deliver. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week, next month. I don't know but its coming!  Grin
hero member
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Hi Guys...
Have you notice a bit of movement on Bittrex...Somebody knows something???
Anyways...Regarding the XT...
I have been reading a bit in the last few days and (not that technical to be honest) what it worries me is the add on to the code that can block IP's...in a way that's censorship! in other way if that happens it will drive people to more private ALT coins...( NAVAJO COIN dudes!!!)
So...let's just wait and see....
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I thought the main purpose (at least of bitcoin) was decentralization. This is what set it apart from historical currencies, not efficiency.

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Only specialized data centers will run nodes and mining operations. And when that happens, they will realize that they can cooperate and enforce whatever they want.

I did not mention decentralization, because I consider it virtually already
lost, since the difficulty to mine block has become so high to require
specialized equipment and the use of big pools, and hash farm.

For what concerns the "when", if you have time, take a look at:
https://blockchain.info/it/pools?timespan=4days

There you can see that the first 4 BTC pool, control generate 65% of the
new blocks, and being the pool who form the blocks, then I think only
they can exercise the right to vote.


Blacklisting addresses, limits on transactions or holding coins hostage,
all simply by controlling what transactions are approved.
Before you know it, you have a centralized currency controlled by the elite.
Now THAT is a defeat of purpose.

I agree.
Of course this kind of concentration of power does not take place only
in the POW, but also in the POS and is for this reason that sometimes I
remarked how the money supply "active" (the staking address) is concentrated
in a few addresses.


@HashForce101  on "Fast transaction times"
Yes, i too prefer a fast block, but...
Even an interval between the blocks too fast involves costs and risks,
which are not always obvious. For example, with a time twice the normal,
just to make a veiled example purely accidental, also the size of
blockchain increases in an exaggerated way with time, as well as the
necessary resources to manage them (RAM, HD, cpu use), and these
disadvantages remain for always.

Another risk that may go unnoticed are the "blocks orphans", which in
theory increase significantly with the decrease of the interval between
the blocks.  (I am still waiting for details on this speedup.)

HashForce, I understand that this is not what you want to read, but
go look for the defects of others, without looking first to the ones we
have, it would be at least unfair.


@djselery  on "pretty dark picture"
“Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real.”
 ― Jules Verne, Around the World in Eighty Days


Bye Bye

legendary
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Back you prediction and buy some First National BTC shares  Smiley
legendary
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But, being a coin for the elite and with high fees, are not themselves
a defeat of the "reason of being" of the cryptcoin in general?

Bye Bye

I thought the main purpose (at least of bitcoin) was decentralization. This is what set it apart from historical currencies, not efficiency.

Any move that risks this should be significantly scrutinized before committing.

My guess is that if the block size is increased now, it will be increased again and again in the future because it will be the easy fix.
Eventually, the high bandwidth and storage costs will lead to all independent full nodes vanishing.

Only specialized data centers will run nodes and mining operations. And when that happens, they will realize that they can cooperate and enforce whatever they want.
Blacklisting addresses, limits on transactions or holding coins hostage, all simply by controlling what transactions are approved.
Before you know it, you have a centralized currency controlled by the elite. Now THAT is a defeat of purpose.

So at some point, soon perhaps, a choice will need to be make of the lesser of two evils. Lets just hope it is the right one.
Well said sir... painted a pretty dark picture there, and i have to admit, its not what the majority wants... but the majority slowly becomes the minority in this gruesome tale of big corporate btc, with giant skyscrappers towering over wells fargo and other puny old fiat banks. Soon First National BTC will be in charge of turning all fiat into btc, but you must wait 1000 transactions. the ceo of first national BTC will be the first crypto currency billioniare and worlds first trillionaire.... whoa... i gotta stop there, someone else pickup that story. i just got a chill...
legendary
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When we buy and sell stocks in normal day trading transaction times are critical.Our transactions are fast even via Mobile. Let's not worry about high frequency tradeing competition but we keep that unfairness in the back of our minds.  In reality we see the BTC price or Altcoin price send the BTC and wait. More waiting and finally the exchange approves the transaction. Like Remy 5 also said.

My Government has cancelled big contracts due to BTC transaction slowness. Yes their was a belief in Crypto.

Now we see a change occuring for the better in my opinion. Or we are stuck with the old ways again.

Now let's talk about  Navajo.

Fast transaction times. Built in Anonymity IF you choose. Navajo Decentralization coming to keep tradition and Masternodes to spread the network security etc. This is what we also expect from Bitcoin. Unfortunately the Market keeps choosing Bitcoin as King as the transition to a new King would be temporarily financially painful.

Let's see how the next few days pan out as this is also a golden opportunity for a new King to arrive. An opportunity that will take many years to come again.  Smiley Remember your individual transactions opinions and BTC transactions matter currently matter.  The side  you choose will make the difference. Run Bitcoin XT on the new fork if you support the change. Exciting times

check out the Bitcoin XT Nodes - http://www.xtnodes.com/
legendary
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But, being a coin for the elite and with high fees, are not themselves
a defeat of the "reason of being" of the cryptcoin in general?

Bye Bye

I thought the main purpose (at least of bitcoin) was decentralization. This is what set it apart from historical currencies, not efficiency.

Any move that risks this should be significantly scrutinized before committing.

My guess is that if the block size is increased now, it will be increased again and again in the future because it will be the easy fix.
Eventually, the high bandwidth and storage costs will lead to all independent full nodes vanishing.

Only specialized data centers will run nodes and mining operations. And when that happens, they will realize that they can cooperate and enforce whatever they want.
Blacklisting addresses, limits on transactions or holding coins hostage, all simply by controlling what transactions are approved.
Before you know it, you have a centralized currency controlled by the elite. Now THAT is a defeat of purpose.

So at some point, soon perhaps, a choice will need to be make of the lesser of two evils. Lets just hope it is the right one.
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 If 51% or your quoted 75% make the shift then a new larger Blockchain will be born. Which means faster transaction times and a new era for BTC and a revolution in Altcoin competition as well.

Not faster transactions, still 10m blocks. Just more of them, and a blockchain increasing at a faster rate with more dust transactions.
I'd rather see high fees instead because I don't see bitcoin as a currency for day to day transactions. I want it to be a slow but reliable and universally accepted store of value. The gold standard of crypto.
I might want to make a few relatively sizable transactions per year and I don't mind if the fees are even 1 or 2 dollars per transaction. Its a small price to pay for the luxury of transferring anywhere in the world and without currency controls.

There can always be other altcoins, like navajo Wink to buy coffee with. We don't need bitcoin for that

If today you find a place where you can pay a cup of coffee in NavajoCoin,
then I'll pay you a coffee. Wink Wink

However I understand what Hashforce101  meant, sometimes happened
to me to make a small transfer from a pool or an exchange, so without
having any control over the fees, and although it was already created
the transaction and was visible on the block explorers, there took almost
an hour before the transaction was included in a block and later confirmed.

In theory a bigger block should decrease this wait time in the queue, and
then make the transaction a little more 'fast'.

But give me some dismay see that there are blocks, loaded with hundreds
of transactions almost touching the limit of the block size, and other
blocks instead of transactions have 0 or less than 10.
Highly illogical, even considering the flow of transactions that the BTC has.

This makes me think that there are "miners" who create blocks without
assembling transactions, so without doing their duty.
Prior to enlarge the size of the block, I think it might be better
to change the rules of reward and pay in full the new blocks generated
mainly only when they carry transactions already queued for several
minutes.
But I doubt that this would please all the miners.

Personally I do not think at the time, that a fork "hostile" is the
best way to do things, there is the risk of doing more damage (even
just of image) than good. I prefer the democratic path.

Or alternatively create a new coin, but I realize that the way to
create a currency alternative to BTC, which may also correct other
structural defects of bitcoins, is very arduous.

The forums are full of the corpses of alt-coin that have tried
and failed, although in their own way, technically someone had
some interesting points.
So, AFAIK none of the survivor altcoins so far has managed to be
more popular of the BTC.

Finally, I agree with the fact that the BTC is considered somewhat
as the correspondent of gold, and could become even more money for
the elite, but a fee increase, IMHO could eventually backfire cascading
also on all minor currencies.

But, being a coin for the elite and with high fees, are not themselves
a defeat of the "reason of being" of the cryptcoin in general?

Bye Bye
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