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Topic: [ANN] NeuCoin Presale to start April 28 (Read 2873 times)

hero member
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February 21, 2017, 10:14:50 AM
#27
What happend to this coin? Is it dead? Abandoned? It had huge marketing and ICO campaign and nothing came out of it?
newbie
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April 30, 2015, 04:22:28 AM
#26
i dont understand, pretty marketing, but why give to the people of Neucoin a lot of 4.000 bitcoins.

on the presale price for 25.000 Neucoin is 1 BTC when presale sell 100.000.000 Neucoin , than is 4.000 btc cash and a lot of  +- 900.000 Dolars.

 
legendary
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April 26, 2015, 02:43:56 PM
#25
The price for NeuCoin is completely irrational.

Agree, 0.01 USD/NeuCoin is roughly equal to the price of NXT without the advanced features of NXT. Maybe I'm just old and picky but this doesn't seems to be right.
newbie
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April 18, 2015, 11:29:16 AM
#24
is neucoin the next paycoin?paycoin had a few websites does neucoin as a wallet or some websites?

Hey there! I’d advise you to have a look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/, you will see an extensive description of our project. If you have questions after having read it, please post here or on our forum http://forum.neucoin.org/, I’ll be happy to answer.

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TaunSew, a couple points:

Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.

I’m not sure what you mean by “nothing on social media substantiates those claims”. TechCrunch also relayed our investor names, as you can check in this article: http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/03/neucoin-is-a-new-cryptocurrency-designed-for-microtransactions/
I don’t think any of them would have liked to be mentioned in this article as well as on our website if we had made up their investment Smiley
The fact that some people suggest that we would be making up fake investors probably says more about how shadowy some parts of the crypto world are than it does about us. While our investors are of a caliber not commonly associated with the crypto space, they are certainly real.

https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.

I checked the peercointalk thread you’ve been referring to, and nowhere it shows that we’ve been refusing to give proof about our investors.
As well, I would highly recommend you to read our plan, available here: http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/ it answers most - if not all - the points mentioned below.

Fork of Peercoin (you need millions to fork Peercoin when others did it for free?)
Over the last year, the NeuCoin project team has:
  • researched the different consensus mechanisms and more particularly PoS and wrote the industry’s most comprehensive white paper explaining the advantages of proof-of-stake versus proof-of-work,
  • built an online wallet - www.MyNeuCoin.com - that is as user-friendly as any leading Bitcoin wallet - and superior to any altcoin wallet
  • built at least one consumer on-boarding website - www.GetNeuCoin.com - a game-like tutorial designed to convert mainstream users in a fun and educational way
  • built a consumer-friendly cloud mining service that lets users effortlessly earn PoS awards through “growth accounts”
  • created partnership with RadioAirplay.com, an artist promotion company that works with 250,000 emerging musicians and Jango.com, a streaming music service with 8 million monthly listeners, to develop a NeuCoin tipping platform
  • created partnership with MondoMedia, a video content producer with the largest animation channel on YouTube to develop a premium content micropayments platform
  • created a robust vault service to store and control the sale-restricted portion of founding teams’, angel investors’ and partner companies’ sale-restricted NeuCoins

And plenty of other elements.
If you think our project is only about forking Peercoin, you need to have a more in-depth look at http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/.

Questionable claims about initial investors and refusal to validate
Like I said above, the founders of NeuCoin know our investors well, they have invested in each others' ventures and worked with and built companies together in the past, and all this is public record and not something you can just make up. Not in the world we come from. I’m not sure where the “refusal to validate” comes from.

Grandiose goals (uhh you want to attain 1 million users in 1 year when Bitcoin is still under 250,000 after 6 years?)

Bitcoin is still nowhere in terms of mainstream adoption, and there is a reason for this: Bitcoin suffers from a real free rider problem. The costs of effectively marketing Bitcoin (ideally giving some away for free) and building truly useful applications for it are high. These high costs must be borne by individual companies, while the rewards would be spread across all existing Bitcoin holders. This misalignment of costs and rewards is what is holding back utility development and consumer adoption.

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Hi btcbug!

Where do we sign up for the presale? Not seeing it on the website.

The presale will start on April 28, you will be able to access it from http://www.neucoin.org/en/ when it begins. You can also join our forum http://forum.neucoin.org/ to get regular updates about the project and ask all the questions you may have about it!
full member
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April 18, 2015, 08:49:15 AM
#23
is neucoin the next paycoin?paycoin had a few websites does neucoin as a wallet or some websites?
tyz
legendary
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April 18, 2015, 08:11:04 AM
#22
Here we are. The people are ready to invest into a new Paycoin-like ICO again. The price for NeuCoin is completely irrational.
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 07:28:20 AM
#21
It is also a very inflationary coin.   It is a premine of 3 billion but they want to grow it to 100 billion.  Which kinds of goes back to earlier points, do you really believe all these Presidents, VPs and executive types are really going to be staking coins on their laptops?  This is really obtuse stuff they claimed they weren't about.


Never mind for us crypto types - are you going to have your node up 24/7 in order to get that full PoS?  You're buying into an inflationary coin where your holding loses value to inflation as soon as you miss a couple of nights or weeks.
legendary
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April 18, 2015, 07:04:26 AM
#20
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.


Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?

They've only been making these claims as of weeks ago.  As well that is not how Google works.  You can type your own name all day on Google and you would never see the returns, of you, being alleged with some obscure thing on a small corner of the internet.  You have to use quotations for precise matching.  So unless somebody told you, someone on the internet was claiming you gave them money, how would you ever find out?  Maybe that is where the "invited to invest" part will come in (see below).

Nicholas Högberg is one of the names they mentioned.

Google: Nicholas Högberg "NeuCoin"
Google: Nicholas Högberg

There is a difference.  I went through a lot of names and couldn't find any substantial proof that any of them are involved with this.  Press releases, Bitcointalk, Cryptonews sites are not proof.

You would think it would had been mentioned on several twitter or social media accounts.  

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team

"Invited to invest based on their ability to forge partnerships and help drive consumer adoption, the Strategic Angel"

Maybe that wording was intentional as legal defense.  "invited to invest".   Cheesy



Could be.  But they could still be liable for suggesting the idea that those mentioned actually invested.
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 06:59:04 AM
#19
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.


Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?

They've only been making these claims as of weeks ago.  As well that is not how Google works.  You can type your own name all day on Google and you would never see the returns, of you, being alleged with some obscure thing on a small corner of the internet.  You have to use quotations for precise matching.  So unless somebody told you, someone on the internet was claiming you gave them money, how would you ever find out?  Maybe that is where the "invited to invest" part will come in (see below).

Nicholas Högberg is one of the names they mentioned.

Google: Nicholas Högberg "NeuCoin"
Google: Nicholas Högberg

There is a difference.  I went through a lot of names and couldn't find any substantial proof that any of them are involved with this.  Press releases, Bitcointalk, Cryptonews sites are not proof.

You would think it would had been mentioned on several twitter or social media accounts.  

http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/#team

"Invited to invest based on their ability to forge partnerships and help drive consumer adoption, the Strategic Angel"

Maybe that wording was intentional as legal defense.  "invited to invest".   Cheesy


legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
April 18, 2015, 06:36:19 AM
#18
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.


Wouldn't posting lies before the presale be counter intuitive in the first place?  What if the 'investors' saw their site and makes a public statement sayng it's all untrue...?
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 06:21:40 AM
#17
https://www.peercointalk.org/index.php?topic=4035.45

Looks like for weeks people been asking for proof about their initial investors.  Only deflections and straw mans from the slum lord Daniel Kaufman.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
April 18, 2015, 06:07:42 AM
#16
Bad timng to launch a project.  The market sucks right now.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.  But does that mean I'm buying into the pre-sale?  Nope.  I'll wait until this is traded in the exchanges.
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 06:02:34 AM
#15
Daniel Kaufman the "founder" of NeuCoin.

Kaufman Properties:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Kaufman-Properties/Van-Nuys-California-91401/Kaufman-Properties-slumlords-rent-ripoff-by-property-management-Reseda-California-117133
https://www.trustlink.org/Reviews/Kaufman-Properties-205954200
This says he runs slum lord apartments.  This is the guy you think is going to take CryptoCurrency mainstream?   A poverty pimp?


1 million users within 1 year when Bitcoin could only manage 250,000 over 6...   Uh huh... 


sr. member
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April 18, 2015, 05:34:39 AM
#14
mprep this should be in announcements buddy.
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 05:25:51 AM
#13
Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.


Leaving Oprahs shaggability and Hazards investment skillz aside (he wasn't the only guy to pass on NXT, and O is a little bit wide for my tastes.... Grin )....

NeuCoin looks pretty cool on paper.....pretty much an NXT copy in all respects (which is good to see, imitation is the best form of flattery)  but it's still a centralised, corporate project with all the possible issues that could bring.
This could be the next Paycoin, or it could be something more......time will tell.

I really don't like the Ripple/MarineCoin model of issuing a tiny proportion of coins to the market, with the NeuCoin foundations controlling the vast majority of funds. As Ripple (and others) have shown, this pretty much allows NeuCoin itself complete control of NeuCoins market cap/price. Like I just said, corporate project, eh?

In conclusion....DYOR (lots of R) before throwing money/BTC at them.  

3.33% sale to Bitcointalk / overpriced IPOs all flop
'Corporate Distribution'
Fork of Peercoin (you need millions to fork Peercoin when others did it for free?)
Questionable claims about initial investors and refusal to validate
Similar and recent projects, of the same corporate style, which went nowhere and technically still competition to NeuCoin.
Grandiose goals (uhh you want to attain 1 million users in 1 year when Bitcoin is still under 250,000 after 6 years?)
Endorsements from "Crypto Celebrities", where their endorsements never mattered in other projects.


"Starting at 25,000 NEU per BTC"  as per their website.  Just to buy tenth of 1 percent of all Neu you have to spend 120 BTC.


Anyone really think this dude is going to take his Neu$hit further than Bitcoin in just one year?  Especially when it's a fork and there's so much shady?

hero member
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April 18, 2015, 04:25:32 AM
#12
Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.


Leaving Oprahs shaggability and Hazards investment skillz aside (he wasn't the only guy to pass on NXT, and O is a little bit wide for my tastes.... Grin )....

NeuCoin looks pretty cool on paper.....pretty much an NXT copy in all respects (which is good to see, imitation is the best form of flattery)  but it's still a centralised, corporate project with all the possible issues that could bring.
This could be the next Paycoin, or it could be something more......time will tell.

I really don't like the Ripple/MarineCoin model of issuing a tiny proportion of coins to the market, with the NeuCoin foundations controlling the vast majority of funds. As Ripple (and others) have shown, this pretty much allows NeuCoin itself complete control of NeuCoins market cap/price. Like I just said, corporate project, eh?

In conclusion....DYOR (lots of R) before throwing money/BTC at them.   
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Not a Doctor
April 18, 2015, 01:56:47 AM
#11
I have a feeling, this not gonna end well. All big investors presale are shit. Take a look at Ziftr
sr. member
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April 18, 2015, 01:51:28 AM
#10
Where do we sign up for the presale? Not seeing it on the website.
hero member
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April 18, 2015, 12:23:50 AM
#9
Has anyone ever validated any of the names with NeuCoin?  I don't mean people like Brock Pierce - he's been endorsing stuff all the time (like AppleByte which was a huge flop).

NeuCoin is claiming to be partnered or invested by all these big tech names (like Henrik Kjelberg) and yet nothing on social media substantiates those claims and the only returns are from Bitcointalk and Cryptonews sites which is probably info from press releases NeuCoin wrote themselves.
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April 17, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
#8
As if this rubbish is worth [a minimum of] $1,000,000... Nice one, mate. Cheesy

Who'd take investment advice from a dickhead who past up NXT lol Below is Hazard's response to NXT.

Yawn

Look at the date, how often do you lie awake thinking what might have been for your sorry ass if you'd invested just $50 in NXT ... you are a classic crypto loser bro!!

pro tip, if Hazard says no ... BUY!!

Except nobody invested in NXT you shit bag.  BCnext was a known sock puppet.  He got over half the NXT for himself.  There were like 70 accounts, but most of those are BCnext and if you trace the chain you can see how they tie together. 

I’d like to announce Nxt (pronounced as "next"), a cryptocurrency based on Bitcoin paradigm.

P.S.  I’m a veteran member of this forum.  I have to use this brand new account to remain anonymous but later I may reveal my identity.

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