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peterpanda
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 19, 2014, 07:44:04 AM
#2331
Quote from: peterpanda on October 12, 2014, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: peterpanda on October 05, 2014, 07:37:34 AM
Quote from: peterpanda on September 28, 2014, 04:47:31 AM
Quote from: peterpanda on September 23, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Hello, every one,
i have just released a new nfd asset
asset_id:2715225107522293218
you can find a bit more information here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nfdasset-793647
I hope this asset will provide a little buying force for nfd
Hi, every one.
The dividend for TMCasset of the 1st week have been send:
accountRS                                 accountID                           asset      NFD           TransID
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU   15956544775913990968   5      217.5   1741376435961263108
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA   15288191739965311527   100      4350           8498607535095972922
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   17057658050152736378   40      1740           8132197090020074829
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3   9286011010206951429   10      435           7790497503476148348
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6   15166746234531398531   60      2610           8354195344898194359

May you all have a good weekend
The dividend for TMCasset of the 2nd week have been send:
accountRS                                 asset      NFD           TxID
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU   5      262.625   16615057866387148704
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA   100      5271.5   9163123136025345715
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   60      3162.5   17587038369114376099
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3   100      5271.5   7221254545450480570
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6   60      3162.5   10132492848393507506
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB   15      789.875   15504953221131057706

Detail information can be found from:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nfdasset-793647
The dividend for TMCasset of the 3rd week have been send:
accountRS                                  asset      NFD          TxID   
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU     5          184.25        12777114153027744945
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA      100       3704           9196265133973410551
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   60         2222           10761864753115237427
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3     100      3704           16165746790174565270
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6      60        2222          5143460247054048627
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB     15        554.75       13354127218095285587
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y     1          36.05         337640623145427427
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV     5          184.25       14705068123072978444
The dividend for TMCasset of the 4th week have been send:
accountRS                                   asset   NFD           TxID
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU   5   128.25   3976319930580840457
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA           100   2565           3976319930580840457
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   60   1539           4483493912378454660
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3   100   2565           15024413585570847697
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6           60   1539           1716707366181513718
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB   15   384.75   8847847428813363099
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y           9   230.85   14158676417727302629
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV           5   128.25   13761544404117636548
MaWo
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 18, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
#2330
NFD NSC asset transferred.

2014-10-19 00:47:06 UTC INFO: In total 5338 assets transferred to 30 different accounts

Code:
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1700
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        547
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        443
NFD-HJGQ-W4PY-YM3P-682XB        421
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        367
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        362
NFD-CBLT-8TCH-WDWJ-AWWBQ        241
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        213
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        209
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        188
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        183
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        102
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        101
NFD-SMNX-G8AE-HHX6-D8CNH        56
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        54
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        30
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        20
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        15
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        14
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        10
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        9
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        8
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        7
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        7
NFD-EJ4T-2VXA-C3YM-4RDZV        3
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        2
NFD-CL58-9S9R-BQXF-BWWNU        1
NFD-CGYV-TMQK-48SP-92L3L        1
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        1
l8orre
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 17, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
#2329
Quote from: MaWo on October 17, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: jackychan on October 17, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Any news about NFD? the price drop to 1satoshi in BTer now, so sad, we need blood Grin

I hope to find the time to release NFD-1.2.9 this weekend.

Thanks a lot for being so up to date - I think this is a crucial update!
Then, with 1.3.1, it will not be so urgent to update too soon, plenty of time to let it mature a bit.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 17, 2014, 09:04:35 PM
#2328
Quote from: MaWo on October 17, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: jackychan on October 17, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Any news about NFD? the price drop to 1satoshi in BTer now, so sad, we need blood Grin

I hope to find the time to release NFD-1.2.9 this weekend.

Thanks MaWo, I will keep an eye on the new release, will update the client when the new client release, thanks for the great job, hope the NFD alive for next couple of decades
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 17, 2014, 08:30:11 PM
#2327
Quote from: jackychan on October 17, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Any news about NFD? the price drop to 1satoshi in BTer now, so sad, we need blood Grin

I hope to find the time to release NFD-1.2.9 this weekend.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 17, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
#2326
Any news about NFD? the price drop to 1satoshi in BTer now, so sad, we need blood Grin
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 15, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
#2325
Quote from: MaWo on October 15, 2014, 09:07:35 AM
Quote from: xibeijan on October 14, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 06:48:48 PM
I see two other problems. An attacker could issue a feed with a malicus link to a new java exploit and kill the network.
Every forging node have to make requests to an external web site. Users who wants to stay anonym could have a problem with that.

I don't agree that any of the things you've pointed out are actually issues.  This last one is obviously not an issue, since to be malicious the links contents would have to be run as javascript to result in an exploit.  In terms of anonymity, the forger would simply opt-out of verifying feed txs.  But if someone wants to be anonymous then they should probably not be using a NXT-based cryptocurrency altogether.

I have to identify all issues even long-term issues. The current approach has many problems.

A more secure approach is to only depend on special feed transactions of an account. The account owner is responsible for correct values.
It's the same trust model like  assets are using. If an asset issuer promise to  pay a dividend then you have to believe it.

A feed transaction is only syntactical verified by nodes. You must trust the feed issuer that she/he delivers correct values and is not gaming.
To reduce this trust problem, the NFD dev team could run some common feeds.
If  the service is temporary unavailable and bids can not be solved because of missing information, all affected bids are canceled. Every party lose only their transaction fee.



Yes, that's what I was thinking too...to the point of looking at this Website: http://www.financialcontent.com/services/online/widget_examples.php

Financial Content is a reputable service: I looked into it long ago.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 15, 2014, 09:07:35 AM
#2324
Quote from: xibeijan on October 14, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 06:48:48 PM
I see two other problems. An attacker could issue a feed with a malicus link to a new java exploit and kill the network.
Every forging node have to make requests to an external web site. Users who wants to stay anonym could have a problem with that.

I don't agree that any of the things you've pointed out are actually issues.  This last one is obviously not an issue, since to be malicious the links contents would have to be run as javascript to result in an exploit.  In terms of anonymity, the forger would simply opt-out of verifying feed txs.  But if someone wants to be anonymous then they should probably not be using a NXT-based cryptocurrency altogether.

I have to identify all issues even long-term issues. The current approach has many problems.

A more secure approach is to only depend on special feed transactions of an account. The account owner is responsible for correct values.
It's the same trust model like  assets are using. If an asset issuer promise to  pay a dividend then you have to believe it.

A feed transaction is only syntactical verified by nodes. You must trust the feed issuer that she/he delivers correct values and is not gaming.
To reduce this trust problem, the NFD dev team could run some common feeds.
If  the service is temporary unavailable and bids can not be solved because of missing information, all affected bids are canceled. Every party lose only their transaction fee.

xibeijan
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 05:37:15 PM
#2323
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 06:48:48 PM
I see two other problems. An attacker could issue a feed with a malicus link to a new java exploit and kill the network.
Every forging node have to make requests to an external web site. Users who wants to stay anonym could have a problem with that.

I don't agree that any of the things you've pointed out are actually issues.  This last one is obviously not an issue, since to be malicious the links contents would have to be run as javascript to result in an exploit.  In terms of anonymity, the forger would simply opt-out of verifying feed txs.  But if someone wants to be anonymous then they should probably not be using a NXT-based cryptocurrency altogether.
Nxtblg
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 05:14:33 PM
#2322
Quote from: JulioCesar on October 14, 2014, 02:20:55 AM
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 04:25:40 AM
Quote from: jackychan on August 13, 2014, 01:49:37 AM
BTer re-open the BTC-NFD trade.

Good news, but there is only one exchange for Nfd?  Undecided

We are working to get listed on a second exchange.


that would be great! From which exchange are you talking about?

hitbtc, we will provide two market makers to get listed.


Do you have news about listing on hitbtc.com?

Not yet. As of the last I heard from them, we're still on their waiting list. I just sent a status-update request.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 02:52:30 PM
#2321
Quote from: JulioCesar on October 14, 2014, 02:20:55 AM
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 04:25:40 AM
Quote from: jackychan on August 13, 2014, 01:49:37 AM
BTer re-open the BTC-NFD trade.

Good news, but there is only one exchange for Nfd?  Undecided

We are working to get listed on a second exchange.


that would be great! From which exchange are you talking about?

hitbtc, we will provide two market makers to get listed.


Do you have news about listing on hitbtc.com?



push
Nxtblg
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 10:12:10 AM
#2320
Quote from: MaWo on October 14, 2014, 08:25:24 AM
Quote from: yelloya on October 14, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
NFD NSC asset transferred:

2014-10-12 15:17:17 UTC INFO: In total 5784 assets transferred to 28 different accounts.

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        1230
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1038
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        612
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        487
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        431
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        411
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        370
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        249
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        222
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        175
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        139
NFD-82PN-BCWF-QRRR-5X3MH        108
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        98
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        39
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        27
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        23
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        16
NFD-N73B-VG2U-GLBA-63HJK        14
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        13
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        12
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        10
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        10
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        9
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        7
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        5
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        5
NFD-TPKA-58XB-TGJ2-CBBUK        1
This means that in the NFD only 28 stakeholders Huh  
This is sad

This means that last week 28 accounts were able to forge a block. Forging power depends on stake. If you not have enough stake and/or luck, you can not forge a block.
You can find a list of all 2875 stakeholders (accounts) here: https://nfdcoin.com/richlist.html


He's right. I have a second account, a sort of practice account, and I've been opening it regularly. I haven't forged a single block because it only has ~ 1.5 million NFD in it.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 08:25:24 AM
#2319
Quote from: yelloya on October 14, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
NFD NSC asset transferred:

2014-10-12 15:17:17 UTC INFO: In total 5784 assets transferred to 28 different accounts.

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        1230
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1038
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        612
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        487
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        431
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        411
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        370
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        249
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        222
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        175
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        139
NFD-82PN-BCWF-QRRR-5X3MH        108
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        98
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        39
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        27
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        23
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        16
NFD-N73B-VG2U-GLBA-63HJK        14
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        13
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        12
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        10
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        10
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        9
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        7
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        5
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        5
NFD-TPKA-58XB-TGJ2-CBBUK        1
This means that in the NFD only 28 stakeholders Huh  
This is sad

This means that last week 28 accounts were able to forge a block. Forging power depends on stake. If you not have enough stake and/or luck, you can not forge a block.
You can find a list of all 2875 stakeholders (accounts) here: https://nfdcoin.com/richlist.html
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 06:02:51 AM
#2318
Quote from: DishCatcher on October 14, 2014, 03:43:26 AM
Quote from: yelloya on October 14, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
NFD NSC asset transferred:

2014-10-12 15:17:17 UTC INFO: In total 5784 assets transferred to 28 different accounts.

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        1230
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1038
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        612
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        487
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        431
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        411
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        370
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        249
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        222
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        175
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        139
NFD-82PN-BCWF-QRRR-5X3MH        108
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        98
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        39
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        27
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        23
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        16
NFD-N73B-VG2U-GLBA-63HJK        14
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        13
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        12
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        10
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        10
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        9
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        7
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        5
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        5
NFD-TPKA-58XB-TGJ2-CBBUK        1
This means that in the NFD only 28 stakeholders Huh  
This is sad

lol.seriously?

and that means a total of 145 downloads  https://bitbucket.org/NFDcoin/nfdcoin/downloads
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 03:43:26 AM
#2317
Quote from: yelloya on October 14, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
NFD NSC asset transferred:

2014-10-12 15:17:17 UTC INFO: In total 5784 assets transferred to 28 different accounts.

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        1230
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1038
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        612
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        487
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        431
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        411
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        370
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        249
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        222
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        175
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        139
NFD-82PN-BCWF-QRRR-5X3MH        108
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        98
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        39
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        27
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        23
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        16
NFD-N73B-VG2U-GLBA-63HJK        14
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        13
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        12
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        10
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        10
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        9
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        7
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        5
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        5
NFD-TPKA-58XB-TGJ2-CBBUK        1
This means that in the NFD only 28 stakeholders Huh  
This is sad

lol.seriously?
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
#2316
Quote from: MaWo on October 12, 2014, 10:34:47 AM
NFD NSC asset transferred:

2014-10-12 15:17:17 UTC INFO: In total 5784 assets transferred to 28 different accounts.

Code:
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3        1230
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA        1038
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y        612
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB        487
NFD-4JLG-2495-U2SM-DAEZQ        431
NFD-KFKX-DP6F-8E4M-28T9Q        411
NFD-MXSL-RCHX-JZ5M-6AUZ2        370
NFD-WZ6A-MJRT-F7FU-9X6N8        249
NFD-RN9N-3YB7-6HAN-BKDKV        222
NFD-JLTR-7JE5-FVDD-DR9SG        175
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU        139
NFD-82PN-BCWF-QRRR-5X3MH        108
NFD-QNEN-T672-V9DS-7MUEP        98
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV        39
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT        27
NFD-C3TP-7273-XRJF-EWSBK        23
NFD-83UM-MYKZ-JGNC-7PBXM        23
NFD-ZQAH-VEJ9-FVNK-B94RN        16
NFD-N73B-VG2U-GLBA-63HJK        14
NFD-AARK-7F25-QPUW-DBUFM        13
NFD-G94C-SP3P-3UYA-8WN36        12
NFD-WKDW-YW7X-QZMQ-EQDDF        10
NFD-FZJ9-2E3X-2TAW-DUHP2        10
NFD-UD7F-8AXC-LL8G-7SAKR        9
NFD-4H5C-ZJBD-CQM7-5J9VA        7
NFD-7PKG-UY33-8WPZ-CAZKG        5
NFD-7268-8XUF-BK6F-8HAS6        5
NFD-TPKA-58XB-TGJ2-CBBUK        1
This means that in the NFD only 28 stakeholders Huh  
This is sad
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 14, 2014, 02:20:55 AM
#2315
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 10:22:51 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: MaWo on August 13, 2014, 04:41:19 AM
Quote from: check07 on August 13, 2014, 04:25:40 AM
Quote from: jackychan on August 13, 2014, 01:49:37 AM
BTer re-open the BTC-NFD trade.

Good news, but there is only one exchange for Nfd?  Undecided

We are working to get listed on a second exchange.


that would be great! From which exchange are you talking about?

hitbtc, we will provide two market makers to get listed.


Do you have news about listing on hitbtc.com?
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 12, 2014, 11:23:31 PM
#2314
Quote from: peterpanda on October 05, 2014, 07:37:34 AM
Quote from: peterpanda on September 28, 2014, 04:47:31 AM
Quote from: peterpanda on September 23, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Hello, every one,
i have just released a new nfd asset
asset_id:2715225107522293218
you can find a bit more information here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nfdasset-793647
I hope this asset will provide a little buying force for nfd
Hi, every one.
The dividend for TMCasset of the 1st week have been send:
accountRS                                 accountID                           asset      NFD           TransID
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU   15956544775913990968   5      217.5   1741376435961263108
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA   15288191739965311527   100      4350           8498607535095972922
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   17057658050152736378   40      1740           8132197090020074829
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3   9286011010206951429   10      435           7790497503476148348
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6   15166746234531398531   60      2610           8354195344898194359

May you all have a good weekend
The dividend for TMCasset of the 2nd week have been send:
accountRS                                 asset      NFD           TxID
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU   5      262.625   16615057866387148704
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA   100      5271.5   9163123136025345715
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   60      3162.5   17587038369114376099
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3   100      5271.5   7221254545450480570
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6   60      3162.5   10132492848393507506
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB   15      789.875   15504953221131057706

Detail information can be found from:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-nfdasset-793647
The dividend for TMCasset of the 3rd week have been send:
accountRS                                  asset      NFD          TxID   
NFD-HUTS-XUPH-93T5-FAAWU     5          184.25        12777114153027744945
NFD-54K9-EEHD-66FP-FKNCA      100       3704           9196265133973410551
NFD-ZBMU-MW7Q-AJ6G-GT9GT   60         2222           10761864753115237427
NFD-2U27-U3XW-NFL9-ABNR3     100      3704           16165746790174565270
NFD-TJW5-CZPV-A8M8-FVSY6      60        2222          5143460247054048627
NFD-6TG6-NT24-SHSB-G4LNB     15        554.75       13354127218095285587
NFD-LNE5-PXJK-U99X-5MW4Y     1          36.05         337640623145427427
NFD-FDTN-DN29-FTBP-D2ZYV     5          184.25       14705068123072978444
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 12, 2014, 06:48:48 PM
#2313
Quote from: ?? on ??
Thanks!  Good question. In one model, the issuer of the feed must pay 1 NFD every time he updates the feed, which should be automatic when he has enabled the feed and designated funds for it.  This could be 1 time per day or 1 time per hour.  Why would the feed issuer pay such fees???  Well... because he earns a percentage (e.g. 0.1%) of the bets made against the feed.

Quote from: MaWo on October 05, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
If a feed is temporarly unavailable, then the CFD is closed?

Yes.  I would say that if it does not publish within X blocks/days of when it is supposed to, then the CFD is closed and everyones money is returned.

This could lead to many forks.  As example, Chinese are not allowed to connect to certain networks.

Quote from: ?? on ??
Quote from: MaWo on October 05, 2014, 11:24:41 AM
The most problem I see are DOS/DDOS against the feed source.

The DDOS problem exists but I'm not sure if it is really an issue. The common case will be large sites like yahoo finance and google, which presumably can handle the load. I am not sure NDF or even NXT are big enough to pose a problem.

The only DDOS issue I can see is a synchronisation problem where all NFD peers verify the feed tx from a block at the same time and NFD forgers all try to validate newly encountered feed tx's at the same time.

Here's a solution to this problem.

1.. NFD forgers do not validate feed tx's unless they forge the block.  This limits the number of forgers validating an unconfirmed feed tx to only a few per minute.
This would open a wide window for manipultions. The trust of the block chain depends on the fact that every node can verify transactions and blocks.

Quote from: ?? on ??
2.. NFD peers load spread feed tx validation by waiting a random number blocks over a 60 block window before performing the feed tx validation. Additionally peers do not consider feed tx's confirmed (nor do they act on them) until they have 120 confirmations.

In this solution NFD peers do not reject blocks with invalid feed tx's.  If an invalid feed tx is found then the NFD peer simply rejects (or ignores) that tx permanently (and does not consider the bet wagers moved to winners/losers). Forgers who notice an invalid feed tx (that another forger lied) can correct it and possibly cancel the feed returning all the bets or even claim the other forgers TX fees. Cheating doesn't pay.

Cancel means pop the block -> fork. If you start creating transcactions which cancels old transactions, you can not trust any feed transaction, because there could be always a transaction in the future, which canels the current status. An attacker would only need a very small amount of NFD to attack NFD and always cancel every feed transaction.

Quote from: ?? on ??
So feeds move slowly 120 blocks behind and are eventually correct by forgers. Moving slowly is not a problem because the common case is that feeds do not need to be updated often (1 time per day).

Lastly feed validation has a maximum age (data sources don't last forever). After 60000 blocks feed outcomes become permanent and are no longer validated.  In other words if a peer is re-downloading the NFD block chain very old feed tx's (60000 blocks behind) are not validated (the feed source may have died by then).  It could make sense to lock feed tx's in (trust they have been validated already by the network) sooner, like after 480 blocks instead of 60000.

Let N be 240, 480 or 60000.  The summary is that after N blocks any given feed tx is considered permanently validated and from then on is either used or ignored. The feed tx has had N blocks in which to be validated by the entire NFD network before it was "written in stone". This system is trustless because any attempt to cheat would be quickly thwarted. To cheat successfully the vast majority of forgers would need to become evil and collude, which would be against their best interests.

OK - let's simply it totally.

Another idea solving data source DDOS issue. "Confirmation by proxy." Forgers look back K blocks and re-validate/confirm previous feed tx's by adding special feed-re-confirm transactions.  NFD peers validating blocks do not validate feed tx's at all, but look for feed-re-confirm tx's submitted by the forgers.  The number of confirmations of a feed tx is NOT its depth in the block chain, but the number of miners who re-confirm the feed tx. If a feed gets 51/100 confirmations, then it would be considered valid by NFD peers and betting decisions made. Otherwise the bets could be canceled and money returned. This seems a lot simpler.

I see two other problems. An attacker could issue a feed with a malicus link to a new java exploit and kill the network.
Every forging node have to make requests to an external web site. Users who wants to stay anonym could have a problem with that.
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Re: [ANN] [NFDv2] - NFD Coin - Thread locked
October 12, 2014, 05:22:43 PM
#2312
Special config to use a Raspberry Pi Model A (256MB RAM) as NFD node.

conf/nxt.properties:
Code:
nxt.dbcacheKB=16000

edit run.sh and add "-Xmx148M" as command parameter:
Code:
java -Xmx148M -cp nxt.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt
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