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legendary
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xGate update - made a full round trip today (on testNet, between two of my own accounts).

It works, but the internal logic needs to be ruggedized a bit. But we will get there!

more soon!


By the way: To trade on xGate you will of course need an NFD account and and NXT account also! - Sure - where else to send your otherCoin to when you don't have the other account  Grin

Very nice!  Wink

Yes, very nice!  Grin

But I suggest taking advantage of the fact that NFD is now a well-kept "open secret" of sorts, what stock market guys call a "sleeper." You have lots of time to test, debug, test and test again - just like good ol' MaWo.  Smiley The upside to the bulk of the BTT community seeing NFD as a big yawn, is that there's no real need to be hasty.

This way, the "big surprise" will be (cumulatively) bigger... Wink

yep- my sentiment also. I am happy to have a minimal version running, and I certainly won't stop now. Some issues were: I do not have a test simulator (yet), so the testing time was painfully long, because for every test I had to go through the blockchain from the very beginning again, i.e. issue buy order (manually from customer acct), then have xGate issue sell order one, wait for trade, have xGate issue sell order2, issue buy order 2 (manually from customer acct2), wait for trade, transfer tokens back from acct1 and acct2, and then check for correct sending of coins. Esp. the last steps have eaten up tremendous amounts of time, because for every bloody little typo I had to start from step1 again  Tongue

But lucky I got that far yesterday at least, because today the NXT testNet has issues with blockchain versions! They are going from 1.2.0e to 1.2.1e and I can't test today... Which is good, because I have a few other things to take care of and I need a day or so off from this anyway!
As I said, the basic use case is there, and we could test it as soon as the NXT testNet is running smoothly again.
But then, there are several contingencies which I will have to add to make it robust: ALICE might decide to cancel a sell offer when BOB does not take it- that would mean ALICE would send her tokens back to xGate w/o trade, and xGate would send back the original coins to ALICE.
Also, BOB might issue a BUY order that eats up several SELL orders in one trade, and then send in ALL the tokens in one transfer. This is not covered atm either. These kinds of things are not the standard use case, but they will occur occasionally, and must be taken care of.
Also, there is the issue that I think it will be better when xGate sends coins ONLY to accounts that in fact have a pubKey- this way embarrassing situations can be avoided when someone makes a mistake when entering their 'other' account into the transfer comment at which to receive the 'other' coins, and the coins are sent into Nirvana..
Don't worry, we will be able to go live before that and just have to remind our customers to stick to the initial standard use cases only, and if something goes cross, fix it manually.
 Grin

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000

xGate update - made a full round trip today (on testNet, between two of my own accounts).

It works, but the internal logic needs to be ruggedized a bit. But we will get there!

more soon!


By the way: To trade on xGate you will of course need an NFD account and and NXT account also! - Sure - where else to send your otherCoin to when you don't have the other account  Grin

Very nice!  Wink

Yes, very nice!  Grin

But I suggest taking advantage of the fact that NFD is now a well-kept "open secret" of sorts, what stock market guys call a "sleeper." You have lots of time to test, debug, test and test again - just like good ol' MaWoSmiley The upside to the bulk of the BTT community seeing NFD as a big yawn, is that there's no real need to be hasty.

This way, the "big surprise" will be (cumulatively) bigger... Wink
legendary
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Cmon NFD! I have never held a coin and boughtso many of one coin in my life! LETS GET THIS PARTY ROCKIN!

Same here, man. Smiley In fact, I bought so much that I turned off the forging in my client.

But, I have to confess that I'm hoping for a go-slow price-wise. That's because I want to buy more.

True confession: had NFD not changed my life, I would have sunk my BTC into Reddcoin. The thing languished for the longest time at 4-5 satoshis; in fact, it languished there so long, Cryptsy was on the verge of closing the RDD/BTC market and transferring Redd to the Litecoin board.  When the Redd team announced "Proof-of-Stake Velocity," the coin woke up and jumped to about 10 satoshis.

And - even though I had a lot of Redd at the time - I actually resented the rise! I was hoping Redd would stay a "sleeper," a kind of ace in the hole, so I could make more BTC elsewhere and roll into RDD when I could. Before pitching in and promoting it, of course. Smiley

Long story short: I sold all my RDD at the beginning of its current rise, in order to roll into something else. Wink Atm, Redd's at 20 satoshis.
legendary
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so why do scams get to 3000 sats, and coins like NFD are having trouble? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-altcoin-scam-698844

Because scammers and flashy people have one skill that can't be beat...in the short term: they know how to read people's "hot buttons" and excite them. Longer term...well, let me put it this way. There's a theory that the richest and most successful Internet Marketers have Attention Deficit Disorder....


I just wonder why those skills can't be combined with a "good coin"

Well...who is to be in charge? The long-term developer or the promoter with the short attention span? That's one to think about...

is it marketing, or are there "pump-teams" on the back?

Myself, I'm kind-of leery about pump teams. These days, they'd likely "overdeliver" and cause a huge spike followed by a huge bear market.
legendary
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https://r.honeygain.me/XEDDM2B07C
Cmon NFD! I have never held a coin and boughtso many of one coin in my life! LETS GET THIS PARTY ROCKIN!
member
Activity: 70
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xGate update - made a full round trip today (on testNet, between two of my own accounts).

It works, but the internal logic needs to be ruggedized a bit. But we will get there!

more soon!


By the way: To trade on xGate you will of course need an NFD account and and NXT account also! - Sure - where else to send your otherCoin to when you don't have the other account  Grin

Very nice!  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1018

xGate update - made a full round trip today (on testNet, between two of my own accounts).

It works, but the internal logic needs to be ruggedized a bit. But we will get there!

more soon!


By the way: To trade on xGate you will of course need an NFD account and and NXT account also! - Sure - where else to send your otherCoin to when you don't have the other account  Grin
legendary
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so why do scams get to 3000 sats, and coins like NFD are having trouble? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-altcoin-scam-698844

Because scammers and flashy people have one skill that can't be beat...in the short term: they know how to read people's "hot buttons" and excite them. Longer term...well, let me put it this way. There's a theory that the richest and most successful Internet Marketers have Attention Deficit Disorder....


I just wonder why those skills can't be combined with a "good coin"

Well...who is to be in charge? The long-term developer or the promoter with the short attention span? That's one to think about...

is it marketing, or are there "pump-teams" on the back?
legendary
Activity: 924
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so why do scams get to 3000 sats, and coins like NFD are having trouble? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-altcoin-scam-698844

Because scammers and flashy people have one skill that can't be beat...in the short term: they know how to read people's "hot buttons" and excite them. Longer term...well, let me put it this way. There's a theory that the richest and most successful Internet Marketers have Attention Deficit Disorder....


I just wonder why those skills can't be combined with a "good coin"

Well...who is to be in charge? The long-term developer or the promoter with the short attention span? That's one to think about...
full member
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The future will be Digital
James was trying to apply Nxt algo to BCTD - https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-is-not-trustless-and-premined-by-very-few-people-how-do-you-answer-that/20/

I wonder if it is possible to incorporate cryptonote (anonymous feature of BCTD) into NFD. We need functions and  features. Gateway is not the priority because we already have a gateway which is Bter.

Agree, But how could we add the anonymous feature? It hard to implement to a cryprocurrency which no any coin even bitcoin could makes transaction anonymous, and some coins trying to makes it reality by using third party plugins,or some like darkcoin and XC etc will done?
full member
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The future will be Digital
At hitbtc.com voting list,we are first place have been replace by other coin,we now on second,let's vote vote vote which we can help NFD grow
legendary
Activity: 2413
Merit: 1003
so why do scams get to 3000 sats, and coins like NFD are having trouble? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-altcoin-scam-698844

Because scammers and flashy people have one skill that can't be beat...in the short term: they know how to read people's "hot buttons" and excite them. Longer term...well, let me put it this way. There's a theory that the richest and most successful Internet Marketers have Attention Deficit Disorder....


I just wonder why those skills can't be combined with a "good coin"
hero member
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James was trying to apply Nxt algo to BCTD - https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/nxt-is-not-trustless-and-premined-by-very-few-people-how-do-you-answer-that/20/

I wonder if it is possible to incorporate cryptonote (anonymous feature of BCTD) into NFD. We need functions and  features. Gateway is not the priority because we already have a gateway which is Bter.
member
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Merit: 10
Or we can use uMGW to trade NFD at NXT.

does uMGW support NXT/NFD gateway? I only found bitcoin (and similar) <-> NXT


You're totally right. Sorry.


Then what is that?



coming soon: xGate. about to go testNet on Sunday.

trade NFD <-> NXT directly via the Asset Exchanges.


almost ready, stay tuned  Cool


sounds very good! thanks so much for ure hard work  Wink

uMGW is a BTC, LTC, ... <-> NXT gateway of jl777: https://nxtforum.org/nxtservices-releases/umgw-release-of-universal-mgw-daemon/

xgate is a NFD <-> NXT gateway from l8orre.

Where you can use this xgate? On Nxt and NFD client?

I heard, that xGate is atm only in testNet and will be implemented very soon for all. But i think l8rre, who create it, will give u more information Wink

But i want to know it too, how it will works and where we can use it, if its realised.
hero member
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Is NFD dead ,such a good coin ,dead??

Go do your FUD in some other scam coin.
hero member
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Or we can use uMGW to trade NFD at NXT.

does uMGW support NXT/NFD gateway? I only found bitcoin (and similar) <-> NXT


You're totally right. Sorry.


Then what is that?



coming soon: xGate. about to go testNet on Sunday.

trade NFD <-> NXT directly via the Asset Exchanges.


almost ready, stay tuned  Cool


sounds very good! thanks so much for ure hard work  Wink

uMGW is a BTC, LTC, ... <-> NXT gateway of jl777: https://nxtforum.org/nxtservices-releases/umgw-release-of-universal-mgw-daemon/

xgate is a NFD <-> NXT gateway from l8orre.
full member
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Or we can use uMGW to trade NFD at NXT.

does uMGW support NXT/NFD gateway? I only found bitcoin (and similar) <-> NXT


You're totally right. Sorry.
full member
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The future will be Digital
It is possible that the dumpers dumps all their coin in BTer now? no one dump to 2 satoshi?
hero member
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Or we can use uMGW to trade NFD at NXT.

does uMGW support NXT/NFD gateway? I only found bitcoin (and similar) <-> NXT
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Is NFD dead ,such a good coin ,dead??

We are working on improvements, discussing new features ...
What makes you think NFD is dead?

I am just worried about the value of NFD. It should not be like this.

I'm concerned myself, but not very. I've been down this block before in other arenas.

Pop quiz: what do the years 1982 and 1988 have in common for U.S. Investors?

1. Going all-in with stocks would have positioned them at the head end of huge long-term bull markets.
2. Fashionable opinion, even educated-fashionable opinion, would have considered them damn fools for doing so. In 1982, educated fashionable opinion was waiting for inflation and gold to come roaring back. In 1988, educated fashionable opinion expected the 1990s to be Great Depression the Second: the "nasty nineties."

I don't want to natter on like an unemployed stock-market historian  Smiley , but suffice it to say that solid long-term investing is actually depressing. If you don't mind me being crude, investing for the long haul is a real ball-buster...particularly when you first jump on board.

There's always that economic theorist in your head nagging you about the market reflecting "rational expectations" about the companies' prospects at the time when the stock market has moved in to the outhouse...

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