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Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool - page 301. (Read 794394 times)

sr. member
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That is not correct, you have a bug in the system.

I have had my orders in place for several days without changing the price and I still get new orders ahead of me.


Like this:
Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 3 Gh/s limit … running (400 miners)
Order #11 @ price 0.8 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.6 … no limit  … in queue

and after awhile it can look like this when #11 is filled.  #10 gets a very short burst mining until #13 places his order infront

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 3 Gh/s limit … running (400 miners)
Order #13 @ price 0.6 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.6 … no limit  … in queue

and #10 never gets filled because whoever does it puts 3Gh or no limit and that's pretty much all the miners there are..

After checking up, there is no bug in current system. Whatever caused this was a one-time event due to some maintenance we did to increase performance of servers. We are sorry about that.
sr. member
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How did a new order #10152 get ahead of my order #8920 on the sha256 cue at .04btc/th/day. I put my order in days ago and have been waiting for it to come to the top of the cue and to have a new order queued ahead of mine at the same price is unfair.


This just happend for scrypt

#10339 gets priority over #8979

how does this work? why are some new orders placed before the current ones?

Thanks for reporting this. We'll take a look at this issue ASAP!
So, are you giong to put the orders in proper order? I am now loosing out on an order that I placed days ago.

+1

I am a regular user of nicehash and have found that orders do not get filled correctly based on what the nicehash devs say. Example: last night I put in an order for 1.0. With a maximum of 2gh. I never got the 2gh filled yet below me there were orders of 0.8 completely filling up to 3gh and their order was placed AFTER mine. No explanation. I have brought this up before in this thread but nice hash seem to ignore it.
And nicehash, don't give the 'pool is unstable' thing because it happens with no matter what pool I'm at. Even with 100% efficiency on the pool

It may take quite some time for order to fill full 2ghs. Make sure you put enough amount into it, else your order will run out before being filled.
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Hi,

Some users were complaining about improper orders sorting, so here I'll explain in details the logic of orders sorting. Sorry for the late replay, but we had to double check the algorithm on our test systems. There is nothing wrong with orders sorting, it just needs a bit of additional explanation. The logic of orders sorting is not trivial. We'll also add a separate FAQ for this topic.

1st Rule: First-Come-First-Served with price evaluation.

2nd Rule: Miners switch to better paying orders gradually not instantly (to prevent too frequent disconnect and work restarts on miners).

Example 1:

Let's presume currently there are a couple of running orders:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #11 @ price 0.8 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #15 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue
Order #10 @ price 0.5 … no limit  … in queue

Event: Order #11 was finished, new list:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #15 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.5 … no limit  … in queue

Event: Order #10 is edited at price 0.7, new list:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #15 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue

Order #10 stays in queue even if it was submitted before Order #15, because Order #15 was first to set higher price. This is to prevent placeholders – one would submit placeholder orders with very small prices and then would just increase price when the opportunity would be good and thus overtake all other bidders with initial same pricing. We don't support this, because it is not fair. The first that sets a particular price will be first served at that particular price. No overtaking at same price level (the same logic is used by cryptocurrency exchanges).

Example 2:

Let's presume currently there are a couple of running orders:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #11 @ price 0.8 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue

Event: A new order Order #13 is added at price 0.9 (the same logic would be if this would be edit of an existing order by increasing price at existing order), new list:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #13 @ price 0.9 … no limit  … waiting (waiting for miners)
Order #11 @ price 0.8 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue

Note that even if Order #13 is set at higher price it's still waiting for miners. It will take several minutes before miners will start to get assigned to new order (to prevent too frequent disconnect and work restarts on miners). New list after some time:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #13 @ price 0.9 … no limit  … running (some miners)
Order #11 @ price 0.8 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue

After some more time:

Order #12 @ price 0.9 … 1 Gh/s limit … running (100 miners)
Order #13 @ price 0.9 … no limit  … running (all remaining miners)
Order #10 @ price 0.7 … no limit  … in queue

Notice that order Order #11 is finished and out of the list. Even if it was lower paying than Order #13 it was finished before because obviously the order budget was spent meanwhile miners were switching to other order(s).

Keep in mind that order/miner switching is even more diverse when there are lots of orders and lots of price changing. In such times one must be patient and carefully monitor the situation. Also, keep in mind that NiceHash doesn't provide it's own hashing power but redirects hashing power from external providers. This way we are able to provide buyers with hashing power on demand, but on a bidding basis and gradual miners switching. Gradual miners switching protects miners and ensures higher efficiency - even at the cost of slightly, but truly slightly lower paying average - efficiency is more valuable and eventually brings better profits for providers. This concept gives attractive pricing for buyers and good payments for providers, but of course can't provide real-time (true on-demand, at click time) hashing power. Usually the ones that are able to predict these "hot" times and are able to bid prices high enough in advance are best served. We also welcome you to utilize our API https://nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=api which will allow you to automate orders handling and make buying hashing power at NiceHash even more effective.

BTW: we did rigorous testing to provide proper order sorting but if you still encounter some cases that doesn't comply with the rules, described above, please let us know via email to [email protected]

Example: last night I put in an order for 1.0. With a maximum of 2gh. I never got the 2gh filled yet below me there were orders of 0.8 completely filling up to 3gh and their order was placed AFTER mine.

TheFridge Are you sure this was a new order for price 1.0? If you were editing existing order, that this would explain the described behavior. If not please send us your order# as well as other order#s (if you have them) to [email protected]. Thanks!

Thanks for using NiceHash and we all wish you nice hashing!
legendary
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How did a new order #10152 get ahead of my order #8920 on the sha256 cue at .04btc/th/day. I put my order in days ago and have been waiting for it to come to the top of the cue and to have a new order queued ahead of mine at the same price is unfair.


This just happend for scrypt

#10339 gets priority over #8979

how does this work? why are some new orders placed before the current ones?

Thanks for reporting this. We'll take a look at this issue ASAP!
So, are you giong to put the orders in proper order? I am now loosing out on an order that I placed days ago.

+1

I am a regular user of nicehash and have found that orders do not get filled correctly based on what the nicehash devs say. Example: last night I put in an order for 1.0. With a maximum of 2gh. I never got the 2gh filled yet below me there were orders of 0.8 completely filling up to 3gh and their order was placed AFTER mine. No explanation. I have brought this up before in this thread but nice hash seem to ignore it.
And nicehash, don't give the 'pool is unstable' thing because it happens with no matter what pool I'm at. Even with 100% efficiency on the pool

I've noticed the same thing with miners as well. Sometimes people will be mining on a campaign that's lower paying than the top (like the top will show 2/50 GH/s but the ones below it will be full). This kills profit for miners and hurts those that are renting.
sr. member
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How did a new order #10152 get ahead of my order #8920 on the sha256 cue at .04btc/th/day. I put my order in days ago and have been waiting for it to come to the top of the cue and to have a new order queued ahead of mine at the same price is unfair.


This just happend for scrypt

#10339 gets priority over #8979

how does this work? why are some new orders placed before the current ones?

Thanks for reporting this. We'll take a look at this issue ASAP!
So, are you giong to put the orders in proper order? I am now loosing out on an order that I placed days ago.

+1

I am a regular user of nicehash and have found that orders do not get filled correctly based on what the nicehash devs say. Example: last night I put in an order for 1.0. With a maximum of 2gh. I never got the 2gh filled yet below me there were orders of 0.8 completely filling up to 3gh and their order was placed AFTER mine. No explanation. I have brought this up before in this thread but nice hash seem to ignore it.
And nicehash, don't give the 'pool is unstable' thing because it happens with no matter what pool I'm at. Even with 100% efficiency on the pool
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How did a new order #10152 get ahead of my order #8920 on the sha256 cue at .04btc/th/day. I put my order in days ago and have been waiting for it to come to the top of the cue and to have a new order queued ahead of mine at the same price is unfair.


This just happend for scrypt

#10339 gets priority over #8979

how does this work? why are some new orders placed before the current ones?

Thanks for reporting this. We'll take a look at this issue ASAP!
So, are you giong to put the orders in proper order? I am now loosing out on an order that I placed days ago.
legendary
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Merit: 1007
nicehash is it possible your site could start doing folding at folding@home (just Google about it), it pays 0.005 btc/day per R9 280x or more with 290's and consume same power as x11 algo
You can get paid for Folding@Home?  Since when?  (haven't found anything to suggest this is true).

Using Curecoin. And the amount he claims you earn is far from realistic. As of right now you earn a bit less than using something like hashco.ws (even taking into consideration power usage). With that said, it's another speculation coin.
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nicehash is it possible your site could start doing folding at folding@home (just Google about it), it pays 0.005 btc/day per R9 280x or more with 290's and consume same power as x11 algo
You can get paid for Folding@Home?  Since when?  (haven't found anything to suggest this is true).
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If you had read the main project page, you would have seen that you don't have to compile anything. Binaries are available.
Moreover, I just give some advices to people who have the same kind of problems as I had. If you do not want to use it (it is your right),please, just ignore the post.

PS: the stratum proxy is not a miner, just a stratum proxy

Sorry but I not understand how to use stratum proxy to fix the stick problem in the miner.

Install a JVM on the computer that will run the proxy (it could be one of your rig), download the proxy binaries (a ZIP file) and unzip it in a directory.
In this directory, use the command:
java -jar stratum-proxy.jar -h stratum.nicehash.com:3336 failover1PoolUrl failover2PoolUrl -u yourNicehashBTCAddress failover1User failover2User  -p p=1.0;d=0.02 failover1Password failover2Password
(you can specify as many failover pools as you want, they will be used in the apparition order)

Then, configure only one pool on your sgminer (cgminer, ccminer or cudaminer) like that stratum+tcp://ipOfHostWithTheProxy:3333, the username and password you want and that's all.

With this configuration, the proxy manages the failover. So no more problem with the (buggy) pool switching functionnality of your miner.
You are welcome on the proxy thread to ask more questions.
sr. member
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If you had read the main project page, you would have seen that you don't have to compile anything. Binaries are available.
Moreover, I just give some advices to people who have the same kind of problems as I had. If you do not want to use it (it is your right),please, just ignore the post.

PS: the stratum proxy is not a miner, just a stratum proxy

Sorry but I not understand how to use stratum proxy to fix the stick problem in the miner.
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Any plans for supporting X13 in the near future?
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Minimal order pay amount is 0.01 BTC, which is clearly visible on placeholder before you put any numbers in.

duh ... missed that.
Ok thanks Wink
sr. member
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Minimal order pay amount is 0.01 BTC, which is clearly visible on placeholder before you put any numbers in.
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I am new to nicehash.com.

I am trying to place a x11 order but keep on getting this message:
"Amount or price not valid. Please check your order again."

Anyone else having this problem OR is it just me?

Here is an example of an order i was trying to place:

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nicehash is it possible your site could start doing folding at folding@home (just Google about it), it pays 0.005 btc/day per R9 280x or more with 290's and consume same power as x11 algo

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gch
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Just made a really dirty x11mod sgminer with nicehash patches - https://github.com/Cremator/sph-sgminer_x11mod - around 40% improvement for my 270s from 1370kh/s to 1930kh/s per card.
Code:
 GPU 0:  57.0C 1931RPM | 1.932M/1.928Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.026/m I:21
 GPU 1:  57.0C 1925RPM | 1.929M/1.924Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.027/m I:21
 GPU 2:  58.0C 2099RPM | 1.929M/1.924Mh/s | R:  0.0% HW:0 WU:0.026/m I:21
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Java is a programming language which produces programs running over a Virtual machine called JVM (Java Virtual Machine). Just install the JVM (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html) for your operating system then launch the proxy as described on the project main page. If you need more advices/details, you are welcome on the stratum-proxy thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.40).

As a C# developer with 10 years XP i know what is java and C++. Just not know to develop on them. And you can't expect from every single user to understand program languages to build or compile his own miners.

If you had read the main project page, you would have seen that you don't have to compile anything. Binaries are available.
Moreover, I just give some advices to people who have the same kind of problems as I had. If you do not want to use it (it is your right),please, just ignore the post.

PS: the stratum proxy is not a miner, just a stratum proxy
sr. member
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Ok guys, i am using the modded x11 sgminer, and got a very decent hash rate increase. however, it is not failing over to my backup pools.

can you please send me info for my config file in order to work better with nicehash? i believe there are some instructions thats needed to be set in the bat/conf files in order to work.

much appreciated.

Same situation.
When nicehash not have work then i need to switch to second pool manually.

Same here bu works fine with this proxy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-stratumgetwork-proxy-with-web-based-gui-and-pools-management-611338) between nicehash and sgminer.

Sorry but, I not know java. This not mean anything for me.

Java is a programming language which produces programs running over a Virtual machine called JVM (Java Virtual Machine). Just install the JVM (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html) for your operating system then launch the proxy as described on the project main page. If you need more advices/details, you are welcome on the stratum-proxy thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.40).

As a C# developer with 10 years XP i know what is java and C++. Just not know to develop on them. And you can't expect from every single user to understand program languages to build or compile his own miners.
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Ok guys, i am using the modded x11 sgminer, and got a very decent hash rate increase. however, it is not failing over to my backup pools.

can you please send me info for my config file in order to work better with nicehash? i believe there are some instructions thats needed to be set in the bat/conf files in order to work.

much appreciated.

Same situation.
When nicehash not have work then i need to switch to second pool manually.

Same here bu works fine with this proxy (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-stratumgetwork-proxy-with-web-based-gui-and-pools-management-611338) between nicehash and sgminer.

Sorry but, I not know java. This not mean anything for me.

Java is a programming language which produces programs running over a Virtual machine called JVM (Java Virtual Machine). Just install the JVM (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html) for your operating system then launch the proxy as described on the project main page. If you need more advices/details, you are welcome on the stratum-proxy thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611338.40).
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