I have asked a question, even repeated it and did not get an answer. I really want to know how the GF fund holders can retrieve their part from this new chain. I asked if we can import a bitcoin key, or maybe I should ask if we can import one of the private keys of the addresses we have given before and then get our part? Or is there another way?
I might have missed it, but I also would like to know what the ratio is the GF fund holders are entitled to.
Topic: [ANN] NoirShares UPDATE REQUIRED Advanced Features✔, Unique PoW✔ - page 35. (Read 69978 times)
September 19, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
September 19, 2014, 02:31:26 AM
It sounds like you are looking for some sort of guarantee.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
Quote
If this problem isn't solved. People will always attack NRS on this issue
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
Quote
1A. Invest in something
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
Quote
1B. Learn about what you are about to invest in
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
Quote
not all investors spend their days on the forum when forum keeps changing its thread with bunch of trolls saying "NRS is a scam."
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
I am not saying every developments and announcements should have been in every languages. I am saying that trading should have been blocked before the snapshot. I know it takes time for exchanges to respond, but it had to happen.
Exchanges announce when coins have wallet issues, deposit issues or when they kick the coins out. Most of investors look at the exchanges, not the forum.
Why are there still buy orders and trading volume in exchanges? Are you saying they are fully acknowledging the development but still are investing? Why let uninformed investors waste their money on dead coins? They have no idea what's going on! It is not just logical to me that you can just announce things on this forum and assume that everybody would know. Does noirshares website mention anything about snapshot? Is noirbittalk.org working? No
and your comments "People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin."
This is just wrong. If there was an issue, the issue has to be solved in mature, transparent manner. I'm not talking about those NRS trolls that are trolling because they lost money due to price dropped. I'm talking about people who didn't even realize their shares are destroyed completely.
And you said "Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too" " It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL."
Very true statement, but this doesn't apply here. It applies when NRS is on the market where people can bet on the future of NRS. It is 100% up to investors. but it doesn't apply when the shares are simply deleted by the development. Investors may assume that they might lose money by market not appreciating the value, but selected people's shares in their wallet are not supposed to be gone over night. If you are expecting every investors to go on the forum and read everything, and if that qualifies investors, NRS is not going to get big. Heavy investors with big cash in other alcoins or bitcoin 2.0 don't have to go on the forum and check everything out. They invest in coins that have intrinsic, technological values as a long term investment.
I'm not trying to talk bad about NRS. I have been investing since april quite a bit, and still a believer. I'm just pointing out the issue that might be a big problem in the future.
September 19, 2014, 12:40:00 AM
It sounds like you are looking for some sort of guarantee.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
It seems as if you want to be sure every investor will be contacted personally, in their own language, fully explained everything, and given enough time for them to decide what they want to do on an individual basis.
Sorry, life doesn't work that way.
NRS puts out its public information (in english, as always). People bought their shares at their own risk knowing that fact.
If the Chinese community wants their information in Chinese, they can find the best translator that they trust to put up their own website, or create their own forum and talk about it there if they want.
This could be a good opportunity for a Chinese/English speaking person to get a website going (with advertisements, etc) and at the same time, providing a service to the chinese speaking community.
What if some person spoke Eskimo and is complaining they didn't know about the snapshot? Are we saying that all information should be sent to the North Pole for Eskimos too, because one person complained that when they bought NRS they didn't know the announcements wouldn't also be translated to Eskimo?
I know the Chinese community is much bigger than Eskimos. But that only reinforces the idea that maybe a Chinese person could volunteer or even charge for their service to send out a private chinese announcement newsletter to subscribers.
This is where the community can get involved. Barwizi is the developer of the technology. How people decide to invest their money is their risk. There are no guarantees of anything.
(If someone has a guarantee, please show one that says all announcements will be sent in Chinese. I did not see one)
Quote
If this problem isn't solved. People will always attack NRS on this issue
People will always find reasons to attack NRS. People will always find reasons to attack Bitcoin, Litecoin, Peercoin, and any other coin. This is the normal thing to do:
Quote
1A. Invest in something
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
2A. Something happens that you do not like, and you lose money for any reason
3A. Attack the coin
What people do not realize is that it should work like this instead:
Quote
1B. Learn about what you are about to invest in
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
2B. Expect to lose your money, but also a chance to earn a profit too
3B. If something happens that you do not like, LEARN FROM IT
4B. After learning in step 3, try again and go back to step 1. You will have a greater chance of success.
But instead, we have hundreds of trolls on bitcointalk that like to blame everyone but themselves and are stuck at 3A instead, which wastes time. They learn nothing, and just complain, complain, complain. These people will always get tricked out of their money because they cannot see their own mistakes. They blame everyone but themselves.
You said it yourself:
Quote
not all investors spend their days on the forum when forum keeps changing its thread with bunch of trolls saying "NRS is a scam."
Yes, I know. It wasn't fun to read, and I had to spend a lot of time passing by those troll posts. But you know what? The time I spent doing that rewarded me with knowing the snapshot was going to occur. So I did not lose my investment.
You, or people you know said "not all their says spend their days on the forum" because they did not like seeing the NRS scam posts. Well they had two choices:
1) get out of the investment
2) Find someone else who can read the forum to protect their investment.
OH, I see, you did this one:
3) Wait until something happens and complain "hey! I don't want to spend their days reading the forum. I believe the dev will figure this out very well."
Well.. The dev is not your babysitter. Sorry to be so rude. But people really need to start hearing the truth at this point.
NO ONE is going to hold your hand in your investments. It is 100% your choice to either BUY or SELL.
September 18, 2014, 11:21:51 PM
Even one year from now, someone is going to wake up and go "hey! I forgot I had NRS. What about me?"
This will go on and on.. It doesn't matter how hard you try, there will always be people not up to speed. This last person said they don't understand english very well and that is why they missed the snapshot.
If this is the case, then you should be careful investing in cryptocurrency that does not have a good forum or chat in your own language. At the very minimum get an interpreter to help you keep current with the developments. This is due diligence and your responsibility as an investor.
This user jjungchuri is a new user with only 1 post so far.
I bet there are a lot more people who have never been informed about this merge. Not all investors spend their days on the forum when forum keeps changing its thread with bunch of trolls saying "NRS is a scam." People may have invested NRS because some altcoin news gave a good rate on NRS, or other sources. Bitcointalk.org shouldn't be the only source for the information. Know that NRS is tradable in many exchanges, and there are still buyers.
Also there are many people, even fluent English speakers, who are not able to understand the software and computer jargons. I didn't even know what Snapshot meant because translators don't even know what that means. It's investors' fault? Cryptocurrency is a decentralized company that is backed by many investors who believe in the value of the coin. You want the cash flow if the coin wants to grow, and now you don't want those non-english speaking investors. Is NRS American coin?
Say you invested in Chinese company, and your shares are completely gone because the company decided to merge with other company, and only Chinese knew the merging because they were talking about this on their small forum. Wouldn't you be pissed off?
People invest in Noirshares because NRS has a good dev and potential to create a good DACs. People who believed and invested in NRS since beginning, when everybody didn't even know what it was and didn't believe NRS' technology, must be rewarded. Company cannot ignore investors.
If this problem isn't solved. People will always attack NRS on this issue when NRS becomes popular just like Darkcoin gets criticized on early vague history of instamining (although it wasn't.) I believe the dev will figure this out very well.
September 18, 2014, 09:26:49 PM
Even one year from now, someone is going to wake up and go "hey! I forgot I had NRS. What about me?"
This will go on and on.. It doesn't matter how hard you try, there will always be people not up to speed. This last person said they don't understand english very well and that is why they missed the snapshot.
If this is the case, then you should be careful investing in cryptocurrency that does not have a good forum or chat in your own language. At the very minimum get an interpreter to help you keep current with the developments. This is due diligence and your responsibility as an investor.
This user jjungchuri is a new user with only 1 post so far.
September 18, 2014, 08:44:20 PM
I have not known about merge because of my fucking competence in english...
Having my old nrs on poloniex balance is right? or must do something???
Having my old nrs on poloniex balance is right? or must do something???
September 18, 2014, 07:05:36 PM
The blocks must have been on a soft fork,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 8.60285533,
Thats with a 8 core AMD ..so expect blocks to get very slow when the difficulty goes higher.
The PoW is insanely hard , i bet once it reaches 0.00000005 you'll see a drop in block production rate. i'd be shocked if the difficulty ever reaches 0.000001 in this coins entire PoW lifetime.
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 8.60285533,
Thats with a 8 core AMD ..so expect blocks to get very slow when the difficulty goes higher.
The PoW is insanely hard , i bet once it reaches 0.00000005 you'll see a drop in block production rate. i'd be shocked if the difficulty ever reaches 0.000001 in this coins entire PoW lifetime.
i get 20.83910475 with my 8 core intel
and for now, it looks like i´m the only miner
getmininginfo
{
"blocks" : 109,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000001,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 20.83910475,
"networkhashps" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}
so, im off to bed... really tired.... cu
September 18, 2014, 06:57:57 PM
The blocks must have been on a soft fork,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 8.60285533,
Thats with a 8 core AMD ..so expect blocks to get very slow when the difficulty goes higher.
The PoW is insanely hard , i bet once it reaches 0.00000005 you'll see a drop in block production rate. i'd be shocked if the difficulty ever reaches 0.000001 in this coins entire PoW lifetime.
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespermin" : 8.60285533,
Thats with a 8 core AMD ..so expect blocks to get very slow when the difficulty goes higher.
Code:
00:46:07

{
"proof-of-work" : 0.00000000,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.00000000,
"search-interval" : 1
}
00:52:20

getdifficulty
00:52:20

{
"proof-of-work" : 0.00000001,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.00000000,
"search-interval" : 1
}
The PoW is insanely hard , i bet once it reaches 0.00000005 you'll see a drop in block production rate. i'd be shocked if the difficulty ever reaches 0.000001 in this coins entire PoW lifetime.
September 18, 2014, 06:52:24 PM
Okay, new wallet just synced.... but, new blockcount is 103 and all previous mined coins are gone?!? 
September 18, 2014, 06:44:46 PM
Please note that if you are using versions before 0.2.1.1 you will be disconnected. update to the new client and lets all be on the same page.
September 18, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
I've applied some minor fixes and will see about fixing as much as i can today.
Meantime
Sync and lets see how it goes.
and you can add my node if you wish 41.78.78.2
Meantime
- DELETE EVERYTHING EXCEPT your wallet.dat
- Download Windows x64 version 0.2.1.1
Sync and lets see how it goes.
and you can add my node if you wish 41.78.78.2
September 18, 2014, 05:48:27 PM
It's taking time, but i'm uploading an updated client with fixes for most of what has been reported.
how much time?
I'm really tired and my wife is already angry because I'm still not in bed beside her, or already on top
September 18, 2014, 05:42:28 PM
It's taking time, but i'm uploading an updated client with fixes for most of what has been reported.
September 18, 2014, 05:16:26 PM
Got five connections, and , in getpeerinfo command these ip's:
54.186.239.68:33333
8.38.76.74:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1088:28f3:e7bc:e209]:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1c34:7b24:48d8:109e]:33333
107.170.52.105:31813
2 of the ip's look strange
Wallet stuck on block 119
54.186.239.68:33333
8.38.76.74:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1088:28f3:e7bc:e209]:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1c34:7b24:48d8:109e]:33333
107.170.52.105:31813
2 of the ip's look strange
Wallet stuck on block 119
thats ipv6
September 18, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
Got five connections, and , in getpeerinfo command these ip's:
54.186.239.68:33333
8.38.76.74:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1088:28f3:e7bc:e209]:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1c34:7b24:48d8:109e]:33333
107.170.52.105:31813
2 of the ip's look strange
Wallet stuck on block 119
54.186.239.68:33333
8.38.76.74:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1088:28f3:e7bc:e209]:33333
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:1c34:7b24:48d8:109e]:33333
107.170.52.105:31813
2 of the ip's look strange
Wallet stuck on block 119
September 18, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
I am updating some seednodes now, i will make available a version of the windows wallet with new seednodes hardcoded within the hour.
For now use addnode
"54.186.239.68:33333",
8.38.76.74:33333
and 41.78.78.2
For now use addnode
"54.186.239.68:33333",
8.38.76.74:33333
and 41.78.78.2
September 18, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
Barwizi, can we get some addnodes or are they built into the wallet?
I've got one connection to the network.
I've got one connection to the network.
me too. just one peer (54.186.239.68:33333)
iv´ve added your node (41.78.78.2), but got still only this one above connected
edit: still out of sync but i get up to 4 connections with these nodes
addnode=41.78.78.2:33333
addnode=91.134.53.161:33333
addnode=192.64.4.13:33333
addnode=24.67.29.246:33333
addnode=207.245.41.195:33333
addnode=107.170.52.105:31813
addnode=68.54.118.59:33333
addnode=68.54.118.59:33333
addnode=75.83.196.109:33333
addnode=14.20.5.117:33333
addnode=130.204.172.168:31813
addnode=89.151.189.195:31813
September 18, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
Barwizi, can we get some addnodes or are they built into the wallet?
I've got one connection to the network.
I've got one connection to the network.
September 18, 2014, 04:04:16 PM
i´m out of sync... last block 119... anyone else get connected?
I'm connected on block 119, "last block was generated 1 hour ago".
September 18, 2014, 04:00:54 PM
How about being nice to me :- NRSceopLVv4jfh8RdHKaMAxQzLWw5B3iSF
send me a bit!!!
send me a bit!!!
You've got to be kidding me. Douchiest. Dev. Ever.
You act like a pretty big douche bag yourself or are you just über emotional and projecting?
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