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Topic: [ANN] official NovaCoin thread - the original PoS+scrypt coin. --POOL LIST-- - page 33. (Read 282664 times)

legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Experimental builds are updated again.  [AMD64  | i686 | src]

Changes list:

  • Core: New proof-of-stake miner implementation. Performance issues resolved, almost 100x faster with massive inputs amount;
  • Qt: Coinbase/coinstake transaction records appearance unification;
  • Lib: update to Berkeley DB 6.0.20.
And again... Smiley

  • Core: Proof-of-Stake miner optimizations and cleanup;
  • Core: Remove BDB support;
  • Core: Automatically remove old transactions index database if that's necessary, no runaway exceptions anymore.

P.S. Mac OS X build was replaced too.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
how fast so crypto Grin

// I've just thought about selling nootropic medicines for some NVC... I have 1kg of Piracetam and I think that it's really too much  Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Experimental builds are updated again.  [AMD64  | i686 | src]

Changes list:

  • Core: New proof-of-stake miner implementation. Performance issues resolved, almost 100x faster with massive inputs amount;
  • Qt: Coinbase/coinstake transaction records appearance unification;
  • Lib: update to Berkeley DB 6.0.20.
Stress test in the TestNet

http://s006.radikal.ru/i213/1401/21/22b9e8099046.png

Proof-of-Work and Proof-of-Stake mining using more than 1 million coins and almost 20k transactions. Stake miner eats one CPU core but there is absolutely no performance issues.  Cool

It actually doesn't matter, but we'll try to decrease CPU usage in the future.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Which do you think would be most beneficial to the coin?
I think that it's all about balance.  Smiley Traders and miners are parts of self-regulated system.

I think it is safe to say that there are currently scrypt FPGAs in the wild or at least a dump truck full of new GPUs mining scrypt from profits of the past months.  As these FPGAs start to ship out, the NVC difficulty will more than likely increase which will make the block reward smaller.  Anyone else think we will see < 1 NVC PoW block reward in 2014?  Talk about a rare coin!
For the reward lower than 1.00 we need a difficulty higher than 240000000. I doubt that it's possible in 2014. Roll Eyes

Code:
Difficulty Reward

500 8.872989
1000 7.904935
2000 7.042496
3000 6.582306
4000 6.274151
5000 6.045097
6000 5.864168
7000 5.715426
8000 5.589633
9000 5.480975
10000 5.385569
20000 4.797996
30000 4.484473
40000 4.274529
50000 4.118476
60000 3.995211
70000 3.893874
80000 3.808172
90000 3.734145
100000 3.669145
100000 3.669145
200000 3.268837
300000 3.055235
400000 2.912202
500000 2.805885
600000 2.721905
700000 2.652865
800000 2.594477
900000 2.544043
1000000 2.499759
2000000 2.227032
3000000 2.081508
4000000 1.984060
5000000 1.911627
6000000 1.854412
7000000 1.807376
8000000 1.767597
9000000 1.733236
10000000 1.703066
20000000 1.517259
30000000 1.418114
40000000 1.351724
50000000 1.302376
60000000 1.263396
70000000 1.231351
80000000 1.204249
90000000 1.180840
100000000 1.160285


Anyway, we can change PoW reward function to make a reward drop slower or faster, if this would be requested by majority of users... But this would require a voting like it happened with PoS reward function before.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
i started the PoS on nvc istarted with small amount after around 50 days i received a an orphan stake and then i got a message that the blockchain is forked and need to update

i updated 4 days ago and still nothing has been staked

so did i waste 50 days?
No, your coin-days are still available. You need to wait until block will be generated.
newbie
Activity: 55
Merit: 0
I am curious of opinions from the community about mining Novacoin VS. pointing my miners at the currently most profitable coin and then buying novacoins with the earnings.  Mining on Novacoin will be better for the network, but buying it on BTC-e with earnings from one of these multi-pools will get more NVC in the end, and in theory will raise it's mining profitability attracting more hash power.  Which do you think would be most beneficial to the coin?

Another thing that I would like to comment on and is somewhat related is the ramifications that scrypt FPGAs will have on the NVC block reward  Grin

When the more powerful ASICs really started hitting the pools, PPC hash rate would spike every time BTC difficulty adjusted which in turn pushed the block reward down.  It seems many miners took an interest in PPC after these profitability spikes happened.  This appears to have benefitted PPC greatly regarding the market price.  Many thought PPC would be super plentiful, because people didn't imagine how much the block reward would change.

I think it is safe to say that there are currently scrypt FPGAs in the wild or at least a dump truck full of new GPUs mining scrypt from profits of the past months.  As these FPGAs start to ship out, the NVC difficulty will more than likely increase which will make the block reward smaller.  Anyone else think we will see < 1 NVC PoW block reward in 2014?  Talk about a rare coin!

Novacoin, it's like gold bullion bars to Bitcoin's 1oz round
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
i started the PoS on nvc istarted with small amount after around 50 days i received a an orphan stake and then i got a message that the blockchain is forked and need to update

i updated 4 days ago and still nothing has been staked

so did i waste 50 days?
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Experimental builds are updated again.  [AMD64  | i686 | src]

Changes list:

  • Core: New proof-of-stake miner implementation. Performance issues resolved, almost 100x faster with massive inputs amount;
  • Qt: Coinbase/coinstake transaction records appearance unification;
  • Lib: update to Berkeley DB 6.0.20.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
It was decided to update some libraries, which are used for Windows builds

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libminiupnpc 1.6 -> 1.8
openssl 1.0.1c -> 1.0.1f
libdb 4.8.30 -> 5.3.21

New builds are backward-compatible, but wallet.dat becomes unreadable for old builds once it was opened by new client.

Testing builds for compatibility checking: [AMD64  | i686]
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
It seems that some stupid scums are trying to promote their "point of view" in the WoT database.

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/novaco.in?utm_source=addon&utm_content=warn-viewsc
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/novacoin.su?utm_source=addon&utm_content=warn-viewsc
https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/novacoin.ru?utm_source=addon&utm_content=warn-viewsc

There's no forms, there is no registration. How is this supposed to be a spamtrap? I didn't seen something so stupid ever.
member
Activity: 86
Merit: 10
Ecoining Support
Hello,

Come make us a visit!! Still 0% fee.

http://novacoin.ecoining.com


Stratum, VARDIFF tuned to allow small miners, MPOS and once we soon fast payments.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
We need candidates for the current prevhash only... It's not necessary to store old candidates, we are free to drop all of them immediately if prevhash was changed (i.e. new block was found). It would require something like 10 megabytes of additional RAM, I guess.

You are right, not everybody need such functionality. But for some purposes (e.g. payments for fastfood) it's almost equal to immediate confirmations, so I presume this would be useful. Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250

  • Block candidates map;
  • Temporary pseuso-chain for block candidates;


Both of these will require resource allocation at each (?) wallet. Do you have estimation of how much that could be?
It might be reasonable to only let some of the nodes do this kind of work. Presumably, whoever handles payments will run more or less a dedicated node with enough resources.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Just a little piece of info...

As far we know, some payment processors and users accepts 0/unconfirmed transactions. But this solution is not secure, because it's possible to create two transactions with the same inputs, but different outputs.

http://eprint.iacr.org/2012/248.pdf

Attacker is able to send a first transaction directly to victim, and then broadcast a second transaction over the network. This couldn't be prevented using the proof-of-work design, but it's possible to fight with such manipulations through using an extension for our proof-of-stake system, and we even don't need a chain fork to implement this.

Block candidates submission concept

This would allow user to check that his unconfirmed transaction is accepted into the specific stakeholder's memory pool.

It doesn't provide guarantee of fast confirmation, but it makes a double spending of 0/unconfirmed transactions much harder. It will be required to use some stake in order to perform such type of double spend attack.

How this could work?

1. We have a blockchain, so we can get a full list of stakeholders with suitable inputs weight (i.e. users who are able to generate proof-of-stake blocks and allowed to submit the block candidates);
2. We can check a signature of received block candidate;
3. As a result, we have a proof that specific stakeholder has a declared list of transactions in the own memory pool. Or seen those transactions, at least.

How is this supposed to work?

Stakeholder will be allowed to send proof-of-stake candidates over the network. Candidate is required to satisfy a difficulty, which would be set separately from the main chain. And then there are few different approaches could be used to handle this.

  • Block candidates map;
  • Temporary pseuso-chain for block candidates;

Maybe we'll think about implementing this in the future version... Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
I updated to the latest version but it crashed with an error so I went back to this one.

Q: Why I'm getting runaway exception while trying to start 0.4.4.6 client?

A: That's normal, it's happened because 0.4.4.6 update makes blockindex code incompatible with previous versions. You need to remove old blockchain files and resyncronize with a rest of the network.

Q: How to remove the old blockchain database files?

A: You need to remove everything except wallet.dat from your client data directory. Data directory is located at

Windows Vista/7/8/2008 Server: C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\NovaCoin
Windows 2000/XP: C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\NovaCoin
Linux/*BSD: ~/.novacoin

You can continue using 0.4.4.5 like btc-e does, but it's better to apply 0.4.4.6 because it works much faster and ignores the current notification.

P.S. "Much faster" is up to 20x speed up on a slow CPUs like Intel Atom or ARMv6.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1359
Hi guys. Smiley

This message is just a notification which was used to send users read the FAQ in this thread.

Check your client version, if you are running 0.4.4.5 or higher then it's safe to ignore this message.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
the grandpa of cryptos
my cleint says:
some clients were affected by chai nfork issue. and send me here but i dont see what shoild i do?
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1018
Buzz App - Spin wheel, farm rewards
Hey Balthazar, just to confirm, I should be all fine with the blockchain issue with version v0.4.4.5-2-gde717f9-beta right?   Thanks.  I updated to the latest version but it crashed with an error so I went back to this one.
sr. member
Activity: 393
Merit: 250
a new permanent node running 0.4.4.6 at 193.68.21.44

new (still experimental, but testers welcome!) NVC mining pool at nvcpool.digsys.bg
proportional payments, full block rewards, no fees, vardiff stratum
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