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Topic: [ANN] ORA :: NXT 'monetary system' currency - page 21. (Read 181202 times)

sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Mission statement: Bootstrap ORA, a clone of Qora with a free & fair equal distribution on a mass scale to over 3,000 stakeholders.

Can you clone BTSX instead of Qora? It seems that BTSX is more worthy to clone.

I think cloning QORA is a better opportunity than BTSX. Noones going to buy into a BTSX clone when BTSX is fine and doing well as it is.

On the other hand QORA is and has been totally screwed from the start. Distribution completely botched, incompetent community, horrible management, no open source, 1 man dev team.

Also I would like to add that the funds raised during the IPO have not been allocated towards development but merely pocketed by the developer (wtf?).

Also, get this, the developer, whom of which everyone is reliant on for developing the coin IS NOT EVEN INVESTED IN THE COIN HIMSELF! He has no stake in the project, merely operating on good faith. Would you trust a CEO to run your company if he has no stake in it and is not getting anything in return for working? How well would that CEO perform? Would he care about the companies success? Would he act in shareholders interests or in his own self interest that of which is divergent to those of investors?

Qoras an absolute disaster and we should capitalize on this. We have a large community, competent leaders, fair distribution and a vision. Everything QORA is lacking. Clone it and lets accomplish what QORA has failed at miserably.


Would you like to join us in oraforum.org ?
legendary
Activity: 1146
Merit: 1000
Mission statement: Bootstrap ORA, a clone of Qora with a free & fair equal distribution on a mass scale to over 3,000 stakeholders.

Can you clone BTSX instead of Qora? It seems that BTSX is more worthy to clone.

I think cloning QORA is a better opportunity than BTSX. Noones going to buy into a BTSX clone when BTSX is fine and doing well as it is.

On the other hand QORA is and has been totally screwed from the start. Distribution completely botched, incompetent community, horrible management, no open source, 1 man dev team.

Also I would like to add that the funds raised during the IPO have not been allocated towards development but merely pocketed by the developer (wtf?).

Also, get this, the developer, whom of which everyone is reliant on for developing the coin IS NOT EVEN INVESTED IN THE COIN HIMSELF! He has no stake in the project, merely operating on good faith. Would you trust a CEO to run your company if he has no stake in it and is not getting anything in return for working? How well would that CEO perform? Would he care about the companies success? Would he act in shareholders interests or in his own self interest that of which is divergent to those of investors?

Qoras an absolute disaster and we should capitalize on this. We have a large community, competent leaders, fair distribution and a vision. Everything QORA is lacking. Clone it and lets accomplish what QORA has failed at miserably.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
In recent days is not online, ORA what new progress?


Check www.oraforum.org

Lets complete the Logo submission amd voting. Then we will move to our phase 2 activities. Stay tuned.
i have registed in this oraforum.hope this is a good trip Grin
full member
Activity: 138
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I have one suggestion,gather all stakeholders and use our new forum.community is the best.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
In recent days is not online, ORA what new progress?


Check www.oraforum.org

Lets complete the Logo submission amd voting. Then we will move to our phase 2 activities. Stay tuned.
full member
Activity: 135
Merit: 100
Kora you are so sweet and i think we should do something.maybe move to another phase?
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Sometimes I am very glad that I read a post on this forum, this is one of those occasions. Respect.


Great post Kora!  Smiley
I think is hard for people to come to realizations like these without first-hand experiences. Even though the essence of what you're trying to put across will be lost to most, the positive energy and passion you bring to the table is very much palpable. Your attempt (with this project) to turn your insights into something that could benefit others is commendable Smiley

Great post Kora.

Thank You.

Thank you ALL for the positive feedback Smiley

I think ALL people visiting this forum today are early adopters of crypto currencies, and many will end up being quite wealthy. How the crypto community chooses to react to this, both collectively and as individuals could have a HUGE influence on the destiny of the world. That might sound dramatic to some, but to many reading this, they'll agree with me that many in 'our' community will be very economically powerful in the future.

J.R Willett (the founder of Mastercoin) wrote a very interesting article about this last year. "Bitcoin's Dystopian Future"

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoins-dystopian-future-180798

If the global financial system does collapse, and crypto does become the 'go to' safe haven, and many crypto currencies rapidly appreciate by HUGE amounts, then most early adopters here today with even a modest portfolio will end up being well off. How will this community collectively react to this situation? Will we do 'the right thing'? What is 'the right thing'?

It's worth spending some time contemplating what the world would be like if the USD/Euro/Yen etc went to zero, and 1 bitcoin could buy an average house in North America, Europe, Japan, China etc

It could happen, and soon.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Here is how you can buy ORA for free.

Step 1 : Post meme's in the MIC (most interesting coin)  thread in the nxt forum according to the current theme and earn 89,000 mic for every meme.

https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)(micoin)the-most-interesting-coin-in-the-world-pure-90-pom/msg87412/#msg87412

Step 2 : Then you can sell those mic in the Nxt asset exchange for nxt.

Step 3 : Use that nxt to purchase ORA for FREE!

Have fun and make use of your resources.

P.s.  i bought 15k ora with 5 memes.  Cool


What a great suggestion Darkhorse! That's one of the great stand out features of the NXT community that I really like - they have a good collective sense of humour, and in amongst all the serious tech, most NXT'ers like to have fun! ORA can be the same Smiley

Are you suggesting we havr some sorta meme of our own too?   Grin

YES, I think a Meme giveaway is a great idea!!

I will offer 1 Million ORA to fund this.
 
How about 5K ORA for each genuine original 'ORA Meme' posted on oraforum.org.

legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Please vote for your favourite logo. We have 8 more days to close the logo voting and finalise the face of Ora.

Where do I vote? I know there is the logo discussion thread. Is that where I need to vote? If so how do I do that? Thanks!
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
In recent days is not online, ORA what new progress?
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Please vote for your favourite logo. We have 8 more days to close the logo voting and finalise the face of Ora.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=697958.280
hero member
Activity: 656
Merit: 500
Great post Kora.

Thank You.
member
Activity: 86
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Mission statement: Bootstrap ORA, a clone of Qora with a free & fair equal distribution on a mass scale to over 3,000 stakeholders.

Can you clone BTSX instead of Qora? It seems that BTSX is more worthy to clone.

Reasons? .
im not being smart, all options are on the table
hero member
Activity: 763
Merit: 500
Mission statement: Bootstrap ORA, a clone of Qora with a free & fair equal distribution on a mass scale to over 3,000 stakeholders.

Can you clone BTSX instead of Qora? It seems that BTSX is more worthy to clone.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
Great post Kora!  Smiley
I think is hard for people to come to realizations like these without first-hand experiences. Even though the essence of what you're trying to put across will be lost to most, the positive energy and passion you bring to the table is very much palpable. Your attempt (with this project) to turn your insights into something that could benefit others is commendable Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
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Sometimes I am very glad that I read a post on this forum, this is one of those occasions. Respect.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
So spent wisely, Kora.
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Big news :
Bter got hacked. 50 million NXT. They are talking about rolling back the NXT blockchain.
Bter, Poloniex and Cryptsy have either frozen their NXT operations or froze their entire exchange.  I think DGEX is not far behind unless it froze operations already.
Only place left to move funds around is into assets.  There are bigger assets but the only thing with holding power if NXT price were to free fall is hypothetically convertible coins like NEM and Ora

I honestly feel like my outlook on crypto has changed after the Bter hack. I'm not much of a trader these days, so I don't normally keep large sums on exchanges, but a couple of days before the hack I had deposited a LARGE proportion of my stash on Bter so I could 'simplify' my portfolio into a small number of long term investments, and when I first heard news about what was going on I honestly thought I would never see my funds again. If NXT and Bter both imploded I would have lost the vast bulk of my crypto assets (over 90%), so needless to say I was freaking out severely.

It was a life changing moment for me in many ways, and I was already in a reflective mood as I'd been to a funeral of a dear friend earlier that day. A couple of years ago I was really struggling financially, and my family always lived hand-to-mouth, and while we were always happy, I could never afford to buy things like new clothes for my wife and kids, or go on holidays. We survived, but only just.

Then I discovered bitcoin, and my financial situation got a lot better. After a couple of years I was comfortable enough to do something like spend ~10 bitcoins on trying to bootstrap the ORA 'experiment'. I wasn't exactly 'rich', but I wasn't poor & struggling like a I was pre 2012 either, and for the first time in my adult life I felt like I didn't have to worry about the 'future'. I thought I had enough 'emergency' savings to keep me and my family out of trouble for the rest of our lives.

It's hard to explain how I felt when people started talking about rolling back the NXT blockchain (panic, fear, desperation), but for a while it looked like that was a real possibility, and IMO if that had happened both Bter & NXT would be gone now. When Jean-Luc posted a link for the rolled back version of the NXT client, and many notable & respected NXT'ers were arguing in favour of rolling back I thought it was game-over for NXT. In that moment I contemplated being poor again, and while I didn't like it, I realised I would still be OK, but obviously depressed, and angry with myself for leaving myself vulnerable. What if ...

The great thing about having money is you don't need to 'worry' about money for the day-to-day living expenses anymore, and you can focus on 'money' from a different perspective. Once you've got enough money to satisfy your basic needs for living, money becomes 'potential energy' that you can use to do 'things', and that's cool, and that's the big difference between being poor and being rich. If a rich person just sits on their wealth then it's wasted potential to do things.

When I was contemplating being 'poor' again that's what instantly came to mind. If Bter & NXT collapsed I would loose my ability to use the money I had made from crypto to do things, like helping to bootstrap ORA. I know I can still be happy as a relatively poor guy in a western country in good health with a loving family, but a poor guy can't harness resources like a wealthy guy. I'm not rich, but by crypto standards I think I'm probably better off than most.

Crypto coins in a wallet are like cash in a box under your bed, or oil in a barrel, or seeds in grain shed. There's potential there for sure, but unless you take that potential and harness it into something useful, what's the point? How much idle resources do you need to feel secure? If you deposit money in a bank someone else can borrow it and use it, but crypto in a wallet is like money under your bed. It's just sitting there protecting you from a rainy day, but that's all it's doing.

By all reports Satoshi has 1 Million bitcoins stashed in a wallet 'under his bed'. That's such a lot of potential, and far more than he needs to feel 'comfortable' and secure. So what's the point of having it? I don't really know the answer, but in my much much smaller case, the recent events made me realise having some crypto wealth is great for security, but beyond a certain level most of the current crypto coins are 'potential' but nobody is using them for their full potential yet. I hope ORA will be used to make people's lives better, not just stashed under the bed making us feel more secure in case of a rainy day.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I suggest that we hold more activities on new ORA forum.   That will be a place to keep fans and accumulate more stable user base.

We may lose some users during the conversion, that's why we need host something on new forum to keep the lose under reasonable amount.


for example,  host a hot topic about distribution.
                      hot topic about development.
                     some people got stolen due to weak password. host a topic for people to update to a new wallet
                     and much more.....

You are right. Thats why we are trying to move all our discussions over there and trying to have a good activity. So far the support is not exactly overwhelming but we need to start that somewhere so why not now. Hope to see you more over there.


Edit: added a new discussion thread in www.oraforum.org for asset distribution control list.

http://oraforum.org/index.php?topic=25.0

If you feel we are doing something wrong, please voice out.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
Here is how you can buy ORA for free.

Step 1 : Post meme's in the MIC (most interesting coin)  thread in the nxt forum according to the current theme and earn 89,000 mic for every meme.

https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)(micoin)the-most-interesting-coin-in-the-world-pure-90-pom/msg87412/#msg87412

Step 2 : Then you can sell those mic in the Nxt asset exchange for nxt.

Step 3 : Use that nxt to purchase ORA for FREE!

Have fun and make use of your resources.

P.s.  i bought 15k ora with 5 memes.  Cool


What a great suggestion Darkhorse! That's one of the great stand out features of the NXT community that I really like - they have a good collective sense of humour, and in amongst all the serious tech, most NXT'ers like to have fun! ORA can be the same Smiley

Are you suggesting we havr some sorta meme of our own too?   Grin
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