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Topic: [ANN] PayPie - Blockchain-Powered Risk Assessment - page 170. (Read 109500 times)

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"Some have blamed lenders for inappropriately approving loans for subprime applicants, despite signs that people with poor scores were at high risk for not repaying the loan. By not considering whether the person could afford the payments if they were to increase in the future, many of these loans may have put the borrowers at risk of default.
Some banks have reduced their reliance on FICO scoring. For example, Golden West Financial (which merged with Wachovia Bank in 2006) abandoned FICO scores for a more costly analysis of a potential borrower's assets and employment before giving a loan.
According to the experts at MyFico.com, credit scores are enhanced by having multiple credit cards, the use of credit cards, and having installment loans. However, financially secure individuals who do not use multiple credit cards and/or self finance installment type expenses may be inaccurately assessed a lower credit score."


Do you think that PayPie could have been a problem solver in this situation and prevent the subprimes bubble and 2008 crisis ?

Well, we're talking about individuals here, their information would not appear on the blockchain, even if the company which granted them a loan would use triple accounting, there would not be any information about customers written in the ledger, so impossible to know the credit risk imo.

Yes I think PayPie is targeting more SMEs than individuals.
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"Some have blamed lenders for inappropriately approving loans for subprime applicants, despite signs that people with poor scores were at high risk for not repaying the loan. By not considering whether the person could afford the payments if they were to increase in the future, many of these loans may have put the borrowers at risk of default.
Some banks have reduced their reliance on FICO scoring. For example, Golden West Financial (which merged with Wachovia Bank in 2006) abandoned FICO scores for a more costly analysis of a potential borrower's assets and employment before giving a loan.
According to the experts at MyFico.com, credit scores are enhanced by having multiple credit cards, the use of credit cards, and having installment loans. However, financially secure individuals who do not use multiple credit cards and/or self finance installment type expenses may be inaccurately assessed a lower credit score."


Do you think that PayPie could have been a problem solver in this situation and prevent the subprimes bubble and 2008 crisis ?

Well, we're talking about individuals here, their information would not appear on the blockchain, even if the company which granted them a loan would use triple accounting, there would not be any information about customers written in the ledger, so impossible to know the credit risk imo.
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"Some have blamed lenders for inappropriately approving loans for subprime applicants, despite signs that people with poor scores were at high risk for not repaying the loan. By not considering whether the person could afford the payments if they were to increase in the future, many of these loans may have put the borrowers at risk of default.
Some banks have reduced their reliance on FICO scoring. For example, Golden West Financial (which merged with Wachovia Bank in 2006) abandoned FICO scores for a more costly analysis of a potential borrower's assets and employment before giving a loan.
According to the experts at MyFico.com, credit scores are enhanced by having multiple credit cards, the use of credit cards, and having installment loans. However, financially secure individuals who do not use multiple credit cards and/or self finance installment type expenses may be inaccurately assessed a lower credit score."


Do you think that PayPie could have been a problem solver in this situation and prevent the subprimes bubble and 2008 crisis ?
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I think paypie react very well with the slack decision. They want to take care of their community and it's  very important for a project like that. They prefer protect us and change app to communicate with us. Its true that slack has a lot of scammers these days. Thanks paypie team !
Yes my friend, there are a plethora of scams on all crypto related slack groups. But my favorite Roll Eyes (sarcasm) is the Myetherwallet phishing attempt, the one where they ask you to donate 25% of your crypto investment made to an ICO, in exchange for 100% return on interest. Most slack groups have disabled the slackbot, or have turned their channel into an announcement only thread.
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
This is because they policy. I think this project is welcome everybody in the world but some country want ban ICO and control it

It's not Canada and US. It's US and Hongkong. That's because there policy and it's good thing for us.

I think China changed its policy about ICO recently, chinese could be ban from ICOs too.

Yep, from now own it will be third country to join the forces against us and us against them. Too much fun.

Well, some third world countries haven't adopted cryptocurrencies yet, they are more like informal things, and those governments don't know even that, so they kind of flourish secretly, like in my country, so eventually those countries will embrace bitcoin and the blockchain, USA and China and Singapur somehow think it is bad, they should already make some regulatory measures instead of just ban it, one of the reasons is that Blockchain economy is insanely fast for them, anyway, Paypie will prove that Blockchain can be very useful for managing companies, or Economies, with their accounting and risk management.

These states ban cryptocurrencies because they are afraid of the blockchain technology making their financial system obsolete. I think it will soon become a tough fight government vs. cryptocurrencies.
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tried to join the telegram group but why is that it will says that there is no usernmae or the account does not exist?
will you please help me access it? like providing me some of your invitation link? please.
Telegram invite link : https://t.me/PayPieTokens

hello mate, i need an INVITATION LINK.. not that link since i tried that already but i cant join to that cause i think my number is restricted ti access that. please send me an invitation link if you are in their telegram
Those telegram links dont wanna open for me in firefox, it says "address wasnt understood", so i have to open it with a different browser. Try it yourself.

I'm getting that too with Telegram links. you can go directly to the site and look for the project manually , but it's a hassle.
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
This is because they policy. I think this project is welcome everybody in the world but some country want ban ICO and control it

It's not Canada and US. It's US and Hongkong. That's because there policy and it's good thing for us.

I think China changed its policy about ICO recently, chinese could be ban from ICOs too.

Yep, from now own it will be third country to join the forces against us and us against them. Too much fun.

Well, some third world countries haven't adopted cryptocurrencies yet, they are more like informal things, and those governments don't know even that, so they kind of flourish secretly, like in my country, so eventually those countries will embrace bitcoin and the blockchain, USA and China and Singapur somehow think it is bad, they should already make some regulatory measures instead of just ban it, one of the reasons is that Blockchain economy is insanely fast for them, anyway, Paypie will prove that Blockchain can be very useful for managing companies, or Economies, with their accounting and risk management.
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tried to join the telegram group but why is that it will says that there is no usernmae or the account does not exist?
will you please help me access it? like providing me some of your invitation link? please.
Telegram invite link : https://t.me/PayPieTokens

hello mate, i need an INVITATION LINK.. not that link since i tried that already but i cant join to that cause i think my number is restricted ti access that. please send me an invitation link if you are in their telegram
Those telegram links dont wanna open for me in firefox, it says "address wasnt understood", so i have to open it with a different browser. Try it yourself.
telegram -this is application for your smartphone! I was joined to PAYPIE telegram in the following way: I have Google Chrome browser in PC and smartphone, all synchronized -add a page with telegram link to the bookmarks in your PC, then go to Google Chrome in smartphone, if the device is synchronized  - go to bookmark with telegram link, open with the application and join!
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tried to join the telegram group but why is that it will says that there is no usernmae or the account does not exist?
will you please help me access it? like providing me some of your invitation link? please.
Telegram invite link : https://t.me/PayPieTokens

hello mate, i need an INVITATION LINK.. not that link since i tried that already but i cant join to that cause i think my number is restricted ti access that. please send me an invitation link if you are in their telegram
Those telegram links dont wanna open for me in firefox, it says "address wasnt understood", so i have to open it with a different browser. Try it yourself.
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
This is because they policy. I think this project is welcome everybody in the world but some country want ban ICO and control it

It's not Canada and US. It's US and Hongkong. That's because there policy and it's good thing for us.

I think China changed its policy about ICO recently, chinese could be ban from ICOs too.

Yep, from now own it will be third country to join the forces against us and us against them. Too much fun.
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There is a constant complaint from the Chinese about unscrupulous users who disappear with the investment of others, but it should be noted that in projects like Paypie there is undisputed control and transparency, which goes some way in sync with what they demand . I believe that in those bands, it is something fleeting and soon they will return. let's be grateful to be on the other side of the walls, and have projects like Paypie to make us believe in better days.


That is a well stated fact as PAYPIE aims to achieve what has never been done before in the world of accounting.PAYPIE is a very promising project with a dedicated team that is very inspiring in crypto space Smiley
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
Paypie legal team is working closely with authorities and most probably we will get some positive response from them within a week

how can they not participate? they can just check the "I'm not from US" mark and be done with it. nobody is gonna verify. the ICO's do the check mark to void liability, but it means nothing.
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There is a constant complaint from the Chinese about unscrupulous users who disappear with the investment of others, but it should be noted that in projects like Paypie there is undisputed control and transparency, which goes some way in sync with what they demand . I believe that in those bands, it is something fleeting and soon they will return. let's be grateful to be on the other side of the walls, and have projects like Paypie to make us believe in better days.
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What I don't understand is that Slack isn't doing anything to curb this phishing. Someone sent them an email about this, but they insist there's nothing wrong with the system, blaming it on the channel's admins. But if this keeps going it will hurt their product too.

I have seen different types of attacks through Slack: Direct Messages, impersonation through Slackbot, public announcements...

Don't know how the Slack guys want to handle this, but in the end Slack was thought to be a communication platform for companies and workspaces, not a promotion platform for blockchain projects. I think slack is great, but in the end, it is not made for "us", and that's ok. There are other platforms which give great possibilities to communicate.

You mean the invitation system is the gatekeeper, and because the invitations are spread publicly it defeats the effectiveness of its gatekeeper function? I'm not familiar with Telegram, but I can't imagine it's invulnerable to scams either.
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About FICO scores I read this:
"Because a significant portion of the FICO score is determined by the ratio of credit used to credit available on credit card accounts, one way to increase the score is to increase the credit limits on one's credit card accounts"
Once the credit card account will be on the blockchain will be immutable ok, but what if the client will increase the credit limit before this? Or they do this while the process is already started? If this is the case, I must say, another problem solved

I don't want to be rude, but instead of talking about how Slack sucks can you tell what do you think about this ?
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
Paypie legal team is working closely with authorities and most probably we will get some positive response from them within a week
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What I don't understand is that Slack isn't doing anything to curb this phishing. Someone sent them an email about this, but they insist there's nothing wrong with the system, blaming it on the channel's admins. But if this keeps going it will hurt their product too.

I have seen different types of attacks through Slack: Direct Messages, impersonation through Slackbot, public announcements...

Don't know how the Slack guys want to handle this, but in the end Slack was thought to be a communication platform for companies and workspaces, not a promotion platform for blockchain projects. I think slack is great, but in the end, it is not made for "us", and that's ok. There are other platforms which give great possibilities to communicate.
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Canada and USA still not allowed to participate?
This is because they policy. I think this project is welcome everybody in the world but some country want ban ICO and control it

It's not Canada and US. It's US and Hongkong. That's because there policy and it's good thing for us.

I think China changed its policy about ICO recently, chinese could be ban from ICOs too.
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Activity: 574
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What I don't understand is that Slack isn't doing anything to curb this phishing. Someone sent them an email about this, but they insist there's nothing wrong with the system, blaming it on the channel's admins. But if this keeps going it will hurt their product too.

I have seen different types of attacks through Slack: Direct Messages, impersonation through Slackbot, public announcements...
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tried to join the telegram group but why is that it will says that there is no usernmae or the account does not exist?
will you please help me access it? like providing me some of your invitation link? please.
Telegram invite link : https://t.me/PayPieTokens

hello mate, i need an INVITATION LINK.. not that link since i tried that already but i cant join to that cause i think my number is restricted ti access that. please send me an invitation link if you are in their telegram
Hello, it looks like an invitation link for me.
I dont know about your problem, maybe you can screenshot it.
Did you download the telegram app or youre using the web version?
The problem only happens only for paypie link or also for other invitation link?
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