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newbie
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Hi Kidshell,

thx for the following up.
This is what I get :
# -----------------------------------------------
pnx masternode start
not capable masternode: Unknown. Check debug.log for more information.

# -----------------------------------------------
Then debug.log

 tail /wallets/phantomx/.wallet/debug.log
connect() to 78.130.160.194:31978 failed after select(): Connection refused
CDarkSendPool::UpdateState() == 3 | 3
CActiveMasternode::ManageStatus() - Checking inbound connection to 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9340'
CActiveMasternode::GetMasterNodeVin - Could not locate specified vin from possible list
CActiveMasternode::ManageStatus() - Could not find suitable coins!
CActiveMasternode::Dseep() - Error: masternode is not in a running status
CActiveMasternode::ManageStatus() - Error on Ping: masternode is not in a running statusconnected to self at xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx35386, disconnecting
connect() to 150.95.154.204:31978 failed after select(): Connection refused
SetBestChain: new best= NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN  height=170673  trust=65302788549413375655  blocktrust=1357289701916568  date=01/26/18 18:21:52
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED

#-----------------------------------------

Your opinion?
Thx
 HP Mathieu
Hi There,

Sorry to be back again with unsolved same problem.
Masternode still not showing up on masternodes.online
Please help
HPM

#**********************************************************************
top - 13:16:27 up 14:27,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
Tasks:  82 total,   1 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):   0.7/0.0     1[|                                                                                       ]
KiB Mem :  2044564 total,   806112 free,   258680 used,   979772 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  4194292 total,  4194292 free,        0 used.  1585716 avail Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
 1002 root      20   0  921568 202224  35552 S  0.3  9.9   9:52.58 phantomxd
  833 root      20   0   60260  14036   4420 S  0.0  0.7   0:17.33 python
 1374 root      20   0       0      0      0 S  0.0  0.0   0:13.91 kworker/0:1
    1 root      20   0  154448   8244   6324 S  0.0  0.4   0:02.45 systemd
  579 root      20   0  471856  18068  10376 S  0.0  0.9   0:02.25 snapd
#**********************************************************************


{
    "version" : "v1.2.2.2: POS-X10",
    "protocolversion" : 69110,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 20000.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 165434,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 16375161.36927828,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "xxx.xxx.xxx.x",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 238195.89230072,
        "proof-of-stake" : 124479.08181897
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1515375689,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00010000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
************************************************************
 GNU nano 2.8.6           File: /wallets/phantomx/.wallet/phantomx.conf


rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=phant......
rpcpassword= somepasswd
staking=0
server=1
listen=1
port=9340
masternode=1
masternodeaddr=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9340
masternodeprivkey=

***********************************************************

Hi hpmathieu

Did you solve your MN? Is it running?
Do not forget to start the MN > "masternode start"

full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 101
Nothing is True...
It's time to buy more PNX Smiley
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
Hi There,

Sorry to be back again with unsolved same problem.
Masternode still not showing up on masternodes.online
Please help
HPM

#**********************************************************************
top - 13:16:27 up 14:27,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
Tasks:  82 total,   1 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):   0.7/0.0     1[|                                                                                       ]
KiB Mem :  2044564 total,   806112 free,   258680 used,   979772 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  4194292 total,  4194292 free,        0 used.  1585716 avail Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
 1002 root      20   0  921568 202224  35552 S  0.3  9.9   9:52.58 phantomxd
  833 root      20   0   60260  14036   4420 S  0.0  0.7   0:17.33 python
 1374 root      20   0       0      0      0 S  0.0  0.0   0:13.91 kworker/0:1
    1 root      20   0  154448   8244   6324 S  0.0  0.4   0:02.45 systemd
  579 root      20   0  471856  18068  10376 S  0.0  0.9   0:02.25 snapd
#**********************************************************************


{
    "version" : "v1.2.2.2: POS-X10",
    "protocolversion" : 69110,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 20000.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 165434,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 16375161.36927828,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "xxx.xxx.xxx.x",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 238195.89230072,
        "proof-of-stake" : 124479.08181897
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1515375689,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00010000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
************************************************************
 GNU nano 2.8.6           File: /wallets/phantomx/.wallet/phantomx.conf


rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=phant......
rpcpassword= somepasswd
staking=0
server=1
listen=1
port=9340
masternode=1
masternodeaddr=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9340
masternodeprivkey=

***********************************************************

Hi hpmathieu

Did you solve your MN? Is it running?
Do not forget to start the MN > "masternode start"
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1068
i dont know how its possible but my last masternode start taking rewards after 3 hour collateral sent.
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
It would be smart also to save private key for the address.
Because, sometimes wallet can be corrupted. With private key you are safe. Just be sure that private key does not fall into wrong hands. Wink

Both methods are good to be safety...
If you saved a wallet.dat and, if you really need bcs your current file is corrupted, you can get the old file and recover all transactions.
Make sure to make a backup always you create a new address in the same wallet.
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
thanks, then should I open the wallet 24 hours per day?? or only close the wallet and wait 72 hours?
You can close the wallet and open it again after 72hours.
full member
Activity: 378
Merit: 105
Hi ! Phantomx is available on LycheeBit.
Happy mining Smiley

Mining Phantomx with x11 algo :

  • Stratum  : lycheebit.com:3533
  • User     : YOUR_PNX_ADDRESS
  • Password : c=PNX

LycheeBit info :


Mining software :


Examples of command line :

  • Nvidia   : ccminer.exe -a x11 -o stratum+tcp://lycheebit.com:3533 -u PGGWn1rz4sby2cLt1yAwhfz6bRuRQoxLiY -p c=PNX
  • AMD      : sgminer.exe --algorithm x11 -o stratum+tcp://lycheebit.com:3533 -u PGGWn1rz4sby2cLt1yAwhfz6bRuRQoxLiY -p c=PNX

Peers list :

  • addnode=209.250.246.236:9340
  • addnode=45.76.82.217:50001
  • addnode=45.63.43.186:9340
  • addnode=93.179.68.77:9340
  • addnode=45.32.116.94:9999
  • addnode=45.77.111.190:9997
  • addnode=46.38.251.80:1111
  • addnode=54.39.22.217:9340
  • addnode=103.1.239.208:31978
  • addnode=45.77.42.227:31978
  • addnode=190.102.61.209:9933
  • addnode=104.238.135.46:9340
  • addnode=35.202.196.122:31978
  • addnode=104.156.229.102:7006
  • addnode=37.120.166.226:9340
  • addnode=34.232.195.147:31978
  • addnode=78.109.28.154:31978
  • addnode=134.249.150.151:9340
newbie
Activity: 83
Merit: 0
what it mean wait 72 hours to maturate the coin ??

should I open the wallet for 72 hours?? thanks

and my phantomx.conf as follows, is it ok?

# --------------------------------------------------------
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=pppnx
rpcpassword=pppnx
staking=1
server=1
listen=1
masternode=0
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341
# -----------------------------------------------


and I got following info after ype:
         getstakinginfo:

is it ok?

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : true,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 251574.40106021,
"search-interval" : 16,
"weight" : 272597187358,
"netstakeweight" : 157910399638427,
"expectedtime" : 139027
}


Your CONF is right!
Probably you have few coins bcs your weight is high.
Maturate means, when you receive any PNX in your wallet, you need wait 72hours to start to contribute to the network helping to find new blocks in PoS mode.
If you receive the coins today, wait 3 days to start staking.
If you protected your wallet, DO NOT FORGET to UNLOCK only for staking mode.

You showed your pwd to the community, change your pwd in phantomx.conf soon as possible and restart your wallet.


thanks, then should I open the wallet 24 hours per day?? or only close the wallet and wait 72 hours?
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 0
Hi There,

Sorry to be back again with unsolved same problem.
Masternode still not showing up on masternodes.online
Please help
HPM

#**********************************************************************
top - 13:16:27 up 14:27,  1 user,  load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
Tasks:  82 total,   1 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s):   0.7/0.0     1[|                                                                                       ]
KiB Mem :  2044564 total,   806112 free,   258680 used,   979772 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  4194292 total,  4194292 free,        0 used.  1585716 avail Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND
 1002 root      20   0  921568 202224  35552 S  0.3  9.9   9:52.58 phantomxd
  833 root      20   0   60260  14036   4420 S  0.0  0.7   0:17.33 python
 1374 root      20   0       0      0      0 S  0.0  0.0   0:13.91 kworker/0:1
    1 root      20   0  154448   8244   6324 S  0.0  0.4   0:02.45 systemd
  579 root      20   0  471856  18068  10376 S  0.0  0.9   0:02.25 snapd
#**********************************************************************


{
    "version" : "v1.2.2.2: POS-X10",
    "protocolversion" : 69110,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 20000.00000000,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 165434,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "moneysupply" : 16375161.36927828,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "xxx.xxx.xxx.x",
    "difficulty" : {
        "proof-of-work" : 238195.89230072,
        "proof-of-stake" : 124479.08181897
    },
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1515375689,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00010000,
    "mininput" : 0.00000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
************************************************************
 GNU nano 2.8.6           File: /wallets/phantomx/.wallet/phantomx.conf


rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=phant......
rpcpassword= somepasswd
staking=0
server=1
listen=1
port=9340
masternode=1
masternodeaddr=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:9340
masternodeprivkey=

***********************************************************
full member
Activity: 271
Merit: 101
looking out for the webwallet with POS  Roll Eyes
This coin stakes the best of all!!!!

for back up wallet just store wallet.dat in safe place?
Have some and don't want to loose them

Yes...
Recommend you protect your wallet creating a password (and never forget it  Grin) and only save the file wallet.dat in a safety place.


It would be smart also to save private key for the address.
Because, sometimes wallet can be corrupted. With private key you are safe. Just be sure that private key does not fall into wrong hands. Wink
newbie
Activity: 82
Merit: 0
Ok, thanks.

What about the sslv23 error?. How can I fix it?.

Best regards.

Why don't you follow the guide?
Remove the vars before to compile the wallet - OPENSSL_LIB_PATH and OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH. Restart your system or restart your terminal.
Just update your system and check the OpenSSL as:

Code:
$openssl
$$$  version

It should show 1.0.2g.
The default folder is /usr/include/openssl/


https://phantomx.co/guide/how-to-create-masternode-linux

I can’t follow the guide, because I have Arch Linux box and the guide is for Ubuntu.

I think that the problem is for Libboost. In Arch Linux the version is 1.66 and perhaps there are problems with this lib.

Best regards.
member
Activity: 117
Merit: 10
Hi ! Can anyone help? The wallet was on POS coins napolis.Closed the wallet .Re-open the bag of coins with POS not! What is the reason?Huh
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
Ok, thanks.

What about the sslv23 error?. How can I fix it?.

Best regards.

Why don't you follow the guide?
Remove the vars before to compile the wallet - OPENSSL_LIB_PATH and OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH. Restart your system or restart your terminal.
Just update your system and check the OpenSSL as:

Code:
$openssl
$$$  version

It should show 1.0.2g.
The default folder is /usr/include/openssl/


https://phantomx.co/guide/how-to-create-masternode-linux
newbie
Activity: 82
Merit: 0
What about wallet phantomxd for Ubuntu 17.04 and 17.10?.

I have problems with compilation with boost libs.

Best regards.
Try install these libs:

Code:
sudo apt-get install build-essential libssl-dev libboost-all-dev git libdb5.3++-dev libminiupnpc-dev screen

Check this guide for help:
https://phantomx.co/guide/how-to-create-masternode-linux


I really have Arch Linux with Boost Lib 1.66:

boost 1.66.0-1
boost-libs 1.66.0-1

I use openssl libs 1.0:

Code:
$ export OPENSSL_LIB_PATH=/usr/lib/openssl-1.0
$ export OPENSSL_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/openssl-1.0

But, I have errors. I think that is problem with boost lib 1.66 and ssl.

How can I fix it:

Code:
$ make -f makefile.unix USE_UPNP=
/bin/sh ../share/genbuild.sh obj/build.h
g++ -c -O2  -pthread -Wall -Wextra -Wno-ignored-qualifiers -Wformat -Wformat-security -Wno-unused-parameter -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -I/home/myuser/Crypto/pnx/phantomx/src -I/home/myuser/Crypto/pnx/phantomx/src/obj -I/usr/include/openssl-1.0 -DENABLE_WALLET -I/home/myuser/Crypto/pnx/phantomx/src/leveldb/include -I/home/myuser/Crypto/pnx/phantomx/src/leveldb/helpers -DHAVE_BUILD_INFO -fno-stack-protector -fstack-protector-all -Wstack-protector -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2  -MMD -MF obj/rpcclient.d -o obj/rpcclient.o rpcclient.cpp
rpcclient.cpp: In function ‘json_spirit::Object CallRPC(const string&, const Array&)’:
rpcclient.cpp:44:58: error: no matching function for call to ‘boost::asio::ssl::context::context(boost::asio::io_service&, boost::asio::ssl::context_base::method)’
     ssl::context context(io_service, ssl::context::sslv23);
                                                          ^
In file included from /usr/include/boost/asio/ssl/context.hpp:757:0,
                 from /usr/include/boost/asio/ssl.hpp:18,
                 from rpcprotocol.h:18,
                 from rpcclient.cpp:9:
/usr/include/boost/asio/ssl/impl/context.ipp:326:1: note: candidate: boost::asio::ssl::context::context(boost::asio::ssl::context&&)
 context::context(context&& other)
 ^~~~~~~
/usr/include/boost/asio/ssl/impl/context.ipp:326:1: note:   candidate expects 1 argument, 2 provided
/usr/include/boost/asio/ssl/impl/context.ipp:63:1: note: candidate: boost::asio::ssl::context::context(boost::asio::ssl::context_base::method)
 context::context(context::method m)
 ^~~~~~~
/usr/include/boost/asio/ssl/impl/context.ipp:63:1: note:   candidate expects 1 argument, 2 provided
In file included from util.h:16:0,
                 from rpcclient.cpp:10:
tinyformat.h: In static member function ‘static const char* tinyformat::detail::FormatIterator::streamStateFromFormat(std::ostream&, unsigned int&, const char*, int, int)’:
tinyformat.h:785:21: warning: this statement may fall through [-Wimplicit-fallthrough=]
             out.setf(std::ios::uppercase);
             ~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
tinyformat.h:786:9: note: here
         case 'x': case 'p':
         ^~~~
tinyformat.h:791:21: warning: this statement may fall through [-Wimplicit-fallthrough=]
             out.setf(std::ios::uppercase);
             ~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
tinyformat.h:792:9: note: here
         case 'e':
         ^~~~
tinyformat.h:797:21: warning: this statement may fall through [-Wimplicit-fallthrough=]
             out.setf(std::ios::uppercase);
             ~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
tinyformat.h:798:9: note: here
         case 'f':
         ^~~~
tinyformat.h:802:21: warning: this statement may fall through [-Wimplicit-fallthrough=]
             out.setf(std::ios::uppercase);
             ~~~~~~~~^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
tinyformat.h:803:9: note: here
         case 'g':
         ^~~~
make: *** [makefile.unix:217: obj/rpcclient.o] Error 1

Best regards.


If you install correctly the lib "libminiupnpc-dev", you don't need compiling it as "USE_UPNP=" - this value parameter is invalid

Just update your system:
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Install the libs:
Code:
sudo apt-get install build-essential libssl-dev libboost-all-dev git libdb5.3++-dev libminiupnpc-dev screen

These links will help you:
https://phantomx.co/guide/how-to-update-blockchain
https://phantomx.co/guide/how-to-create-masternode-linux


Ok, thanks.

What about the sslv23 error?. How can I fix it?.

Best regards.
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
what it mean wait 72 hours to maturate the coin ??

should I open the wallet for 72 hours?? thanks

and my phantomx.conf as follows, is it ok?

# --------------------------------------------------------
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=pppnx
rpcpassword=pppnx
staking=1
server=1
listen=1
masternode=0
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341
# -----------------------------------------------


and I got following info after ype:
         getstakinginfo:

is it ok?

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : true,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 251574.40106021,
"search-interval" : 16,
"weight" : 272597187358,
"netstakeweight" : 157910399638427,
"expectedtime" : 139027
}


Your CONF is right!
Probably you have few coins bcs your weight is high.
Maturate means, when you receive any PNX in your wallet, you need wait 72hours to start to contribute to the network helping to find new blocks in PoS mode.
If you receive the coins today, wait 3 days to start staking.
If you protected your wallet, DO NOT FORGET to UNLOCK only for staking mode.

You showed your pwd to the community, change your pwd in phantomx.conf soon as possible and restart your wallet.
newbie
Activity: 83
Merit: 0
Rewards not confirmed means you have troubles to sync the wallet.
Add these nodes on phantomx.conf:

Quote
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341

If you receive rewards above 25PNX, it's happening because we have a small visual bug - already fixed on the new version in test.


I have 2 questions:

1.should I open the wallet 24 hours per day for the POS ??
2. I am now have 5000 PNX in wallet, how much POS I can get?? I only got 3 times of 25 PNS. any rules of PNX POS?

thanks



Make sure you have the phantomx.conf similar with this template:

Quote
# --------------------------------------------------------
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=
rpcpassword=
staking=1
server=1
listen=1
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341
# --------------------------------------------------------


For PoS mode, you need consider:

1 - check if STAKING MODE in phantomx.conf is activated (staking=1 and masternode=0) and restart your wallet
2 - wait 72 hours to maturate the coin
3 - UNLOCK your wallet to stake mode
4 - if you have less PNX in your wallet, probably you have low weight
5 - check the diff in PoS field on http://explorer.phantomx.co
or using your wallet in
         HELP > DEBUG > CONSOLE
and type:
         getstakinginfo



what it mean wait 72 hours to maturate the coin ??

should I open the wallet for 72 hours?? thanks

and my phantomx.conf as follows, is it ok?

# --------------------------------------------------------
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=pppnx
rpcpassword=pppnx
staking=1
server=1
listen=1
masternode=0
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341
# -----------------------------------------------


and I got following info after ype:
         getstakinginfo:

is it ok?

{
"enabled" : true,
"staking" : true,
"errors" : "",
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 251574.40106021,
"search-interval" : 16,
"weight" : 272597187358,
"netstakeweight" : 157910399638427,
"expectedtime" : 139027
}
member
Activity: 160
Merit: 18
Rewards not confirmed means you have troubles to sync the wallet.
Add these nodes on phantomx.conf:

Quote
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341

If you receive rewards above 25PNX, it's happening because we have a small visual bug - already fixed on the new version in test.


I have 2 questions:

1.should I open the wallet 24 hours per day for the POS ??
2. I am now have 5000 PNX in wallet, how much POS I can get?? I only got 3 times of 25 PNS. any rules of PNX POS?

thanks



Make sure you have the phantomx.conf similar with this template:

Quote
# --------------------------------------------------------
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
rpcuser=
rpcpassword=
staking=1
server=1
listen=1
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341
# --------------------------------------------------------


For PoS mode, you need consider:

1 - check if STAKING MODE in phantomx.conf is activated (staking=1 and masternode=0) and restart your wallet
2 - wait 72 hours to maturate the coin
3 - UNLOCK your wallet to stake mode
4 - if you have less PNX in your wallet, probably you have low weight
5 - check the diff in PoS field on http://explorer.phantomx.co
or using your wallet in
         HELP > DEBUG > CONSOLE
and type:
         getstakinginfo

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Rewards not confirmed means you have troubles to sync the wallet.
Add these nodes on phantomx.conf:

Quote
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341

If you receive rewards above 25PNX, it's happening because we have a small visual bug - already fixed on the new version in test.


I have 2 questions:

1.should I open the wallet 24 hours per day for the POS ??
2. I am now have 5000 PNX in wallet, how much POS I can get?? I only got 3 times of 25 PNS. any rules of PNX POS?

thanks
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Activity: 160
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Rewards not confirmed means you have troubles to sync the wallet.
Add these nodes on phantomx.conf:

Quote
addnode=54.218.118.59:9340
addnode=54.218.118.59:9341

If you receive rewards above 25PNX, it's happening because we have a small visual bug - already fixed on the new version in test.
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 10
i get too many rewards that are not confirmed with "?" forever lost.... @ 800 pnx so far from staking... .anyway to get them back?
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