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This looking so much great!

Ill take some btc in this!

Any bounty? Like Steemit post, or any other translation?

Yes we have a special forum bounty program for the Bitcointalk forum. You can find the full program managed by SFR10 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/blockpay-signature-campaign-earn-up-to-006-per-week-ended-1594462
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This looking so much great!

Ill take some btc in this!

Any bounty? Like Steemit post, or any other translation?
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Ok let's do some calculations:

100 million coins x 0,0005 btc = 50.000 BTC.
50.000 BTC x 500 Euro = 25 million Euro's

So let's say i am an investor and would like to get a little more return on investment then a savings account.
I want a return of 3% per year.

25 million euro x 3% = 750.000,- euros

The company suggested that the tokenholders would get up to 15% of the commission of 0,5% that is charged to consumers for every transaction.

For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)


1 billion euro of transaction volume! how much is that? Visa has around 50% of total global transaction volume for debit and credit card worth 3,3 trillion USD.
So with a transaction volume of 1 billion, blockpay would be small compared to Visacard which is 3300x bigger.
But the cryptospace has a marketcapitalisation of around 10 billion Euro.

So the succes of blockpay is hugely depended on the growth of the cryptocoin consumer.

If it reaches 1 billion transaction volume, i would say blockpay is very succesful. But even then the return on this high risk investment for tokenholders is a lousy 3%.

I am enthusiastic about this project and would love to participate. Because i think the cryptoscene could and should manage to become successful without Venture Capitalist from the 'real' world. But under these conditions it is more a donation then an investment. Don't get me wrong, i want you to become succesfull, but i will wait to invest in this coin when it hits the exchanges (at much lower prices).

Cheers!  
  


Hi Titan20, I really like your passion for your Project Smiley You really got a lot of good questions, I hope I answer them all to your satisfaction. Let us tackle the numbers.

First, the 15%, of the 0.5% transaction fees, are the sales commission for our BlockPay Ambassadors. If you sign up a bar in your town, you will get (0.5%*15%) in sales commission for each transaction running through that BlockPay. (0.08% of the total transaction, that is not bad.)

Second, we need far less to be profitable. According to my numbers we break even with around 3,500,000 USD transaction volume or 17,500 USD in transaction fees per month. 15% sales commission 2,625 USD for BlockPay Ambassadors. You take the rest 14,875 USD - deduct our startup expenses and taxes and end up with the net profits per month. These will be distributed according to stake. As you can see 3,5 mio USD per month on a global scale is not that much.

We have over 60 BlockPay Ambassadors today, and when each Ambassador can sign up 5 new stores per month we will have a good network by spring 2017.

Yes at the end we also need the consumer site. If the Blockchain community is not starting to use their coins on the market, then we will not reach our goals too. So we are bootstrapping as much as we can today to get a BlockPay in every store our there.

Gosh when we make a 1 billion USD in transaction volume then we reached true mass adoption for crypto currencies. That should be our new national day Grin

 
The company suggested that the tokenholders would get up to 15% of the commission of 0,5% that is charged to consumers for every transaction.
  


My knowledge is that the 15% is only for Ambassadors whom actively sign merchants with blockpay. It comes from the small fee of only those people whom use the blockpay app at that specific location that the ambassador signed up, not the total set of transaction fees and not to coin holders. There is an undefined, unenforceable promise to profit share with blockpay token holders.

Also, blockpay is not the only project this team is up to. The funds raised here will go to fund other projects as well. as I understand it. Any other project could add value which would alter the value of the coins should the team share this value as promised.


https://blockpay.ch/community/blockpay-ambassador/

Yes right mr-whitekey. BlockPay is just one side of the coin. Echo on the other end is a powerful social chat messenger with a blockchain wallet baked it. PayPal and Whatsapp are looking how to integrate Bitcoin already but they are not private and anonym. I think you can already send Bitcoin with Viber too right? Anyways, Echo will combine the best of WhatsApp and PayPal in one app. Imagine we just get 10 million users who can send Bitcoin over the chat messenger and pay at a BlockPay in seconds. There is a lot of potential up. And WhatsApp has around 1 billion users. Skype 800, WeChat 700 and so on. It is a giant market that we want to tackle with smarter and better technologies.

I want to invest with BTS.

How can I do that?

BTS are on Polo.


Thank you

Hi koanado,

The best is you send your funds first to your OpenLedger account and then send it forward to "ico.blockpay" . It is important you send it to your own account first so that we know your OpenLedger account!! I don´t want to send the BlockPay tokens to the Poloniex wallet....

Thank you for your support, any questions send me a pm.
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For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)

 


1,000,000,000 x 0.05 x .15 = 7,500,000 euro not 750,000.

@ 1 billion euro transaction volume per year and 15% on a .05% fee, the project would be an outstanding success for all involved.


But, they have not committed to this.

This seems a bit unreasonable no? I mean, long term goals are great and all but...
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Dev, I have PMed you about Chinese translation bounty, plz reply me as long as you see it.   Wink  Thank you very much!
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Have the dream   Cheesy  If the token is so expensive, I doubt that any merchants will use this, and you are not innovative project, there are so many merchant apps.

PS: 697 btc fund raised so far?   Shocked
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For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)

 


1,000,000,000 x 0.05 x .15 = 7,500,000 euro not 750,000.

@ 1 billion euro transaction volume per year and 15% on a .05% fee, the project would be an outstanding success for all involved.


But, they have not committed to this.


0,5% = 0,005 and not 0,05 so it is 750.000 euro
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I think that idea of merchants using this altcoin in a physical store setting is way out there, stores have still not even adopted the most known the the crypto's (bitcoin, ETH) why would they just jump onboard with this random new coin , if somehow it did end up being accepted in stores then there is the issue of liquidity; stores can not buy anything with blockpay so this coin would need to get onto a big exchange for all these merchants to convert to cash and with that added inconvience and cost again I doubt stores will accept this coin;  Just my humble opinion let me know what you think


Nobody is advocating blockpay as a currency. Blockpay is a Point Of Sales system through which both purchasers and merchants can easily use a host of crypto-currencies. Buyers choose the currency to buy in and merchants choose the currency to receive. The token is an IPO token to rise the capital needed to launch the product on the scale needed.

https://blockpay.ch/

It is a fantastic project from what I can tell, they just need some more investor relations and explicit commitments.    
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I think that idea of merchants using this altcoin in a physical store setting is way out there, stores have still not even adopted the most known the the crypto's (bitcoin, ETH) why would they just jump onboard with this random new coin , if somehow it did end up being accepted in stores then there is the issue of liquidity; stores can not buy anything with blockpay so this coin would need to get onto a big exchange for all these merchants to convert to cash and with that added inconvience and cost again I doubt stores will accept this coin;  Just my humble opinion let me know what you think
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For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)

 


1,000,000,000 x 0.05 x .15 = 7,500,000 euro not 750,000.

@ 1 billion euro transaction volume per year and 15% on a .05% fee, the project would be an outstanding success for all involved.


But, they have not committed to this.
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I want to invest with BTS.

How can I do that?

BTS are on Polo.


Thank you
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The company suggested that the tokenholders would get up to 15% of the commission of 0,5% that is charged to consumers for every transaction.
  


My knowledge is that the 15% is only for Ambassadors whom actively sign merchants with blockpay. It comes from the small fee of only those people whom use the blockpay app at that specific location that the ambassador signed up, not the total set of transaction fees and not to coin holders. There is an undefined, unenforceable promise to profit share with blockpay token holders.

Also, blockpay is not the only project this team is up to. The funds raised here will go to fund other projects as well. as I understand it. Any other project could add value which would alter the value of the coins should the team share this value as promised.


https://blockpay.ch/community/blockpay-ambassador/
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Where can i findthe percentages the shareholders gets? Some mentioned 15% each transactions, if this is true who will get the rest of 85%?

- the project is not focused, but you could see it as an advantage

as long as the merchants are not taking less for accepting Bitcoin or Co. not much will be achieved.

If the merchant saves a lot of transaction fees, he should give in the beginning a discount to make it more likely that the people are switching.

good luck, i will try to get cheaper into it, I see it as overvalued.
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Ok let's do some calculations:

100 million coins x 0,0005 btc = 50.000 BTC.
50.000 BTC x 500 Euro = 25 million Euro's

So let's say i am an investor and would like to get a little more return on investment then a savings account.
I want a return of 3% per year.

25 million euro x 3% = 750.000,- euros

The company suggested that the tokenholders would get up to 15% of the commission of 0,5% that is charged to consumers for every transaction.

For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)


1 billion euro of transaction volume! how much is that? Visa has around 50% of total global transaction volume for debit and credit card worth 3,3 trillion USD.
So with a transaction volume of 1 billion, blockpay would be small compared to Visacard which is 3300x bigger.
But the cryptospace has a marketcapitalisation of around 10 billion Euro.

So the succes of blockpay is hugely depended on the growth of the cryptocoin consumer.

If it reaches 1 billion transaction volume, i would say blockpay is very succesful. But even then the return on this high risk investment for tokenholders is a lousy 3%.

I am enthusiastic about this project and would love to participate. Because i think the cryptoscene could and should manage to become successful without Venture Capitalist from the 'real' world. But under these conditions it is more a donation then an investment. Don't get me wrong, i want you to become succesfull, but i will wait to invest in this coin when it hits the exchanges (at much lower prices).

Cheers! 
 

great  analysis.
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Ok let's do some calculations:

100 million coins x 0,0005 btc = 50.000 BTC.
50.000 BTC x 500 Euro = 25 million Euro's

So let's say i am an investor and would like to get a little more return on investment then a savings account.
I want a return of 3% per year.

25 million euro x 3% = 750.000,- euros

The company suggested that the tokenholders would get up to 15% of the commission of 0,5% that is charged to consumers for every transaction.

For the tokenholders to get a return on investment of 3% the company has to realize a transaction volume of 1.000.000.000 (1 billion) euro's per year.
(1.000.000.000 x 0,5% commission x 15% payout tokenholders = 750.000 euro)


1 billion euro of transaction volume! how much is that? Visa has around 50% of total global transaction volume for debit and credit card worth 3,3 trillion USD.
So with a transaction volume of 1 billion, blockpay would be small compared to Visacard which is 3300x bigger.
But the cryptospace has a marketcapitalisation of around 10 billion Euro.

So the succes of blockpay is hugely depended on the growth of the cryptocoin consumer.

If it reaches 1 billion transaction volume, i would say blockpay is very succesful. But even then the return on this high risk investment for tokenholders is a lousy 3%.

I am enthusiastic about this project and would love to participate. Because i think the cryptoscene could and should manage to become successful without Venture Capitalist from the 'real' world. But under these conditions it is more a donation then an investment. Don't get me wrong, i want you to become succesfull, but i will wait to invest in this coin when it hits the exchanges (at much lower prices).

Cheers! 
 
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4 phases? It looks an ambitious project, or can be considered a greedy project, I don't think you will get much funded, because you are too greedy
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They are considering listing the token in multiple exchange or just the already been select, any idea about it?
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Sorry, if this question has been asked before. If I choose to buy some BlockPay tokens, will I get some kind of interest / reward on my coins as the company grows? Or, what will give the tokens value and how will I be rewarded for holding the tokens? Or, is it just a matter of buy / sell or any dividends like shares? Thank you.

Yes, you will get rewards in form of a profit cut from all our collected fees. The BlockPay tokens will be tradable so you can also speculate on the future price if you want. Please go through the last messages to see all details and also use the search function.

Promising project, I believe it can become the paypal in the crypto world, I'm in with a few btc, and I would like to see the addres where ICO funds are deposited? Thanks

Bingo Smiley

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Promising project, I believe it can become the paypal in the crypto world, I'm in with a few btc, and I would like to see the addres where ICO funds are deposited? Thanks
See the OP properly. details about all invested money/sold out coins listed there.. or follow this link:
https://blockpay.ch/newsroom/investor-relations/blockpay-reserves/


You tokens are too expensive actually, you know other good ico with much profit is low ico price, it prevents you to sell your coins. Be the "btc decides ico price" mode, AKA get the ico price because of btc raised.

Looks like you don't know anything about it. if the price is higher than other altcoin's ICO, it is a good thing. it won't prevent seriosu investors to buy it. even I think it will more encourage people to invest here because when it get listed in the markets/exchanges the price will more reasanable.. buying shit coins with few satoshi have no sense.
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You tokens are too expensive actually, you know other good ico with much profit is low ico price, it prevents you to sell your coins. Be the "btc decides ico price" mode, AKA get the ico price because of btc raised.
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