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Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.


Hi,

I've touched on this above and I quote;

Quote
Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.

Again, we're only matching and locking in the ICO pricing + % of overall quarterly profits. It's not going to be much higher when you consider that fact that most holders will want to hold and NOT sell their tokens, as per our system. The buy-backs are NOT going to occur indefinitely as the price of our overall profits, token price and market cap grows. As mentioned this is more of a safety-net for early investors more than anything else.

If the project is not doing so well, you'll be able to make back most of your original investment which in turn motivates us, as developers, to perform at the highest level and achieve high market valuation and growth. If the project is going well it will make more sense to sell your tokens at a regular exchange, which is what we're ultimately aiming for.


Don't you miss the day traders when striving for HODLers only?

Not at all. I used to day trade in the future's markets and let me tell you, day traders and "HODlers" are essentially the same in the sense that they both want to see the price to increase. Regardless, the more long-term investors or "HODlers" you have the fewer people you have that are willing to sell. Which creates what? Short supply. What happens when you have shorter supply? You get higher demand. Day traders will be able to take advantage of that and trade accordingly.
As a day trader I must disagree on this point, it's not essentially the same. In fact I don't care about the rate increasing or decreasing. All I need is a certain volatility and reliable sources/data to predict future rates (no matter higher or lower).
You said that viabet will have a low volatility and basically only increasing rates, which will definitely make your coin less interesting for day traders.

With all due respect to day traders, we're not trying to create a "flippable" coin. We're building a platform. At the end of the day we hope to create long-term value but as with Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies it will attract all parties, holders, traders etc. I don't think there's such a thing as a "stable" cryptocurrency. We expect high volatility during the early days but that should decrease as our market cap grows. I guess you're right in the sense that end result will be a cryptocurrency that is more conducive to "HODLing" as opposed to day trading.

People will hold the tokens only if they will be sure that they will grow. Big valatility is good only fo dayly traders, but for holders it is nesessary stability.
legendary
Activity: 910
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Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.


Hi,

I've touched on this above and I quote;

Quote
Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.

Again, we're only matching and locking in the ICO pricing + % of overall quarterly profits. It's not going to be much higher when you consider that fact that most holders will want to hold and NOT sell their tokens, as per our system. The buy-backs are NOT going to occur indefinitely as the price of our overall profits, token price and market cap grows. As mentioned this is more of a safety-net for early investors more than anything else.

If the project is not doing so well, you'll be able to make back most of your original investment which in turn motivates us, as developers, to perform at the highest level and achieve high market valuation and growth. If the project is going well it will make more sense to sell your tokens at a regular exchange, which is what we're ultimately aiming for.


Don't you miss the day traders when striving for HODLers only?

Not at all. I used to day trade in the future's markets and let me tell you, day traders and "HODlers" are essentially the same in the sense that they both want to see the price to increase. Regardless, the more long-term investors or "HODlers" you have the fewer people you have that are willing to sell. Which creates what? Short supply. What happens when you have shorter supply? You get higher demand. Day traders will be able to take advantage of that and trade accordingly.
As a day trader I must disagree on this point, it's not essentially the same. In fact I don't care about the rate increasing or decreasing. All I need is a certain volatility and reliable sources/data to predict future rates (no matter higher or lower).
You said that viabet will have a low volatility and basically only increasing rates, which will definitely make your coin less interesting for day traders.

With all due respect to day traders, we're not trying to create a "flippable" coin. We're building a platform. At the end of the day we hope to create long-term value but as with Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies it will attract all parties, holders, traders etc. I don't think there's such a thing as a "stable" cryptocurrency. We expect high volatility during the early days but that should decrease as our market cap grows. I guess you're right in the sense that end result will be a cryptocurrency that is more conducive to "HODLing" as opposed to day trading.
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 101
Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.


Hi,

I've touched on this above and I quote;

Quote
Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.

Again, we're only matching and locking in the ICO pricing + % of overall quarterly profits. It's not going to be much higher when you consider that fact that most holders will want to hold and NOT sell their tokens, as per our system. The buy-backs are NOT going to occur indefinitely as the price of our overall profits, token price and market cap grows. As mentioned this is more of a safety-net for early investors more than anything else.

If the project is not doing so well, you'll be able to make back most of your original investment which in turn motivates us, as developers, to perform at the highest level and achieve high market valuation and growth. If the project is going well it will make more sense to sell your tokens at a regular exchange, which is what we're ultimately aiming for.


Don't you miss the day traders when striving for HODLers only?

Not at all. I used to day trade in the future's markets and let me tell you, day traders and "HODlers" are essentially the same in the sense that they both want to see the price to increase. Regardless, the more long-term investors or "HODlers" you have the fewer people you have that are willing to sell. Which creates what? Short supply. What happens when you have shorter supply? You get higher demand. Day traders will be able to take advantage of that and trade accordingly.
As a day trader I must disagree on this point, it's not essentially the same. In fact I don't care about the rate increasing or decreasing. All I need is a certain volatility and reliable sources/data to predict future rates (no matter higher or lower).
You said that viabet will have a low volatility and basically only increasing rates, which will definitely make your coin less interesting for day traders.
member
Activity: 434
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What time period will you consider an application for adding a new game to your platform?
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Not at all. I used to day trade in the future's markets and let me tell you, day traders and "HODlers" are essentially the same in the sense that they both want to see the price to increase. Regardless, the more long-term investors or "HODlers" you have the fewer people you have that are willing to sell. Which creates what? Short supply. What happens when you have shorter supply? You get higher demand. Day traders will be able to take advantage of that and trade accordingly.
It turns out that it is advantageous to win the tokens during the game, and buy them on the stock exchanges for the purpose of further resale.
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 104
Everything is quite clearly explained. I like this idea more and more, especially due the fact that the casino and the bets are profitable by themselves, and therefore the profit will be high.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.


Hi,

I've touched on this above and I quote;

Quote
Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.

Again, we're only matching and locking in the ICO pricing + % of overall quarterly profits. It's not going to be much higher when you consider that fact that most holders will want to hold and NOT sell their tokens, as per our system. The buy-backs are NOT going to occur indefinitely as the price of our overall profits, token price and market cap grows. As mentioned this is more of a safety-net for early investors more than anything else.

If the project is not doing so well, you'll be able to make back most of your original investment which in turn motivates us, as developers, to perform at the highest level and achieve high market valuation and growth. If the project is going well it will make more sense to sell your tokens at a regular exchange, which is what we're ultimately aiming for.


Don't you miss the day traders when striving for HODLers only?

Not at all. I used to day trade in the future's markets and let me tell you, day traders and "HODlers" are essentially the same in the sense that they both want to see the price to increase. Regardless, the more long-term investors or "HODlers" you have the fewer people you have that are willing to sell. Which creates what? Short supply. What happens when you have shorter supply? You get higher demand. Day traders will be able to take advantage of that and trade accordingly.
member
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How many games can you run on your platform to one person?
In my official website there is a small list of games that will support the casino. But I can be wrong
Have you seen a simple list of already running games or specific conditions for partners wishing to start their game startups?
member
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How many games can you run on your platform to one person?

There's no limit. You can start with one game and work your way up to owning an entire casino environment. You're only limited by the amount of Edge/XVIA tokens you'll be able to acquire.

More games more people play games and more often they use tokens. It is good for price of the tokens. But the quality of the games on the platform must be high. Do you have any requirements to the quality of the games presented on the platform?
The quality of games is really worth checking, because with low quality they will not be in demand, and creators with platform owners with their help will not earn anything.
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Activity: 219
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Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.


Hi,

I've touched on this above and I quote;

Quote
Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.

Again, we're only matching and locking in the ICO pricing + % of overall quarterly profits. It's not going to be much higher when you consider that fact that most holders will want to hold and NOT sell their tokens, as per our system. The buy-backs are NOT going to occur indefinitely as the price of our overall profits, token price and market cap grows. As mentioned this is more of a safety-net for early investors more than anything else.

If the project is not doing so well, you'll be able to make back most of your original investment which in turn motivates us, as developers, to perform at the highest level and achieve high market valuation and growth. If the project is going well it will make more sense to sell your tokens at a regular exchange, which is what we're ultimately aiming for.


Don't you miss the day traders when striving for HODLers only?
member
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What amount of money can an investor earn in a year after the platform is launched in percent?
To answer this question it will not be easy enough for too many different factors
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What amount of money can an investor earn in a year after the platform is launched in percent?
sr. member
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I've been dipping my toes into the figurative pool of online gambling for a little over a year. I've learned a lot, but I'll be the first to admit: I'm not a smart man.. now don't get me wrong! I'm not stupid, per se.. I'm just a bit slow when confronted with new territory, so please excuse my ignorance.

shortly after entering the world of online gambling, it occurred to me that the concept of a decentralized cryptocurrency made a great deal of sense, especially considering my place of residence. with a VPN and a little bitcoin, many new options were finally within my reach. and this may be anecdotal, but in my experience the casinos that accepted transactions via alt-coins were more trustworthy, as opposed to the fiat based alternatives. I still have much to learn, but based on what I've seen so far, VIABET offers an innovative approach to gambling by incorporating a decentralized platform, making it more akin to investing and has the potential to fill a significant gap in the market.

I watched a 20 minute video about VIABET and skimmed through the WHITEPAPER, but I felt a little overwhelmed with details and had trouble making sense of a couple things.. namely, what is the reason/benefit for implementing a "double token system"? and what sort of experience or technical knowledge will be required in order to develop custom games? will there be a user friendly template that guides the process?

I may be in over my head, but so far I like what I see!
hero member
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Will the company buy its tokens off the market?
We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
I have a small confusion here,why would you purchase the tokens at a much higher price than in the exchanges,every business looks for profit and why would you plan to do when you could acquire from the market and keep the buy back process moving forward with a lesser cost that would hurt a portion of your profits.
member
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Whether a forum will be created within the framework of the Viabet platform so that users can discuss all the nuances to face
Oh, I think it's a great idea, and developers are worth looking at.
member
Activity: 294
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Whether a forum will be created within the framework of the Viabet platform so that users can discuss all the nuances to face
legendary
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Will the company buy its tokens off the market?

We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
Sorry I don't get this point.
Exchanges depend on supply on demand, so why should there be a difference in price? And if so, why should viabet buy the more expensive coins?
Sounds like new buyers pay the profit of old holders (ponzi?)

Not at all. This is more of a "safety net" that we provide and a commitment to our investors. It's going to come out from our end. Let me explain.

The idea is that the token price stays at OR above the original ICO price (which is locked in as the buy-back price) and then we'll add a % from our total profits for the fiscal quarter. So it's kind of like a dividend but not really.

If the token price sky-rockets on exchanges it will obviously make a lot more sense to sell it there but in the case that the price drops lower (which we don't believe it will that's why we're confident in offering this) we'll buy back 10% of your tokens each quarter. So, in any case, you can sell your tokens at the same or higher price than you originally bought them for if you just hold on to them for the long term. The early investor bonuses (40%, 20% etc...) are basically instant profits when you think about it as you'll come out ahead regardless.
full member
Activity: 219
Merit: 101
Will the company buy its tokens off the market?

We're offering to buy back up to 10% of a holders tokens each fiscal quarter at a price that cannot be lower than the initial ICO price + added platform/casino profits. So it's not exactly a dividend but as our profits grow, we'll be able to offer much higher token buyback prices than the exchanges.
Sorry I don't get this point.
Exchanges depend on supply on demand, so why should there be a difference in price? And if so, why should viabet buy the more expensive coins?
Sounds like new buyers pay the profit of old holders (ponzi?)
full member
Activity: 504
Merit: 104
How many games can you run on your platform to one person?

There's no limit. You can start with one game and work your way up to owning an entire casino environment. You're only limited by the amount of Edge/XVIA tokens you'll be able to acquire.

More games more people play games and more often they use tokens. It is good for price of the tokens. But the quality of the games on the platform must be high. Do you have any requirements to the quality of the games presented on the platform?
member
Activity: 434
Merit: 10
What rewards will the platform receive as a percentage of, for example, poker tournaments?
How often will there be poker tournaments on your platform?
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