Another day with 0.02 payout with 10mh. Switched away enough of wasting electricity.
10h mining on waffle and already 0.05. (tried clevermining, but got 20% of rejects)
I'm nobody's fanboy, just looking for best ROI.
Topic: [ANN] profit switching auto-exchanging pool - www.middlecoin.com - page 45. (Read 829901 times)
February 19, 2014, 03:06:53 AM
February 19, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
Buddy,
One thing you might have noticed while being here is that H2O has never been missing completely for such a long period of time. Something has happened to him otherwise he would have at least posted one of his one-liners on twitter...
Anyways... for now this is not the best place to point your miners to
One thing you might have noticed while being here is that H2O has never been missing completely for such a long period of time. Something has happened to him otherwise he would have at least posted one of his one-liners on twitter...
Anyways... for now this is not the best place to point your miners to
I don't know whats gone wrong with this pool, but it's definately failing (or defrauding since it's real hard to lose MH) big time. My 4.3 MH/s rig was doing about 0.05 BTC/day now consistently getting 0.01?
? WTF? I'm off to pastures new, as are I notice 25% of his customers in last 24 hours!
There is no transparency, no communication, no support, as far as I can tell. This one man band has completely failed to scale his business to match the revenues he was/is taking, it's called being greedy, and it's bitten him in the ass.
? WTF? I'm off to pastures new, as are I notice 25% of his customers in last 24 hours!There is no transparency, no communication, no support, as far as I can tell. This one man band has completely failed to scale his business to match the revenues he was/is taking, it's called being greedy, and it's bitten him in the ass.
February 19, 2014, 02:52:05 AM
I don't know whats gone wrong with this pool, but it's definately failing (or defrauding since it's real hard to lose MH) big time. My 4.3 MH/s rig was doing about 0.05 BTC/day now consistently getting 0.01?? WTF? I'm off to pastures new, as are I notice 25% of his customers in last 24 hours!
There is no transparency, no communication, no support, as far as I can tell. This one man band has completely failed to scale his business to match the revenues he was/is taking, it's called being greedy, and it's bitten him in the ass.
? WTF? I'm off to pastures new, as are I notice 25% of his customers in last 24 hours!There is no transparency, no communication, no support, as far as I can tell. This one man band has completely failed to scale his business to match the revenues he was/is taking, it's called being greedy, and it's bitten him in the ass.
February 19, 2014, 02:42:36 AM
He's more like MIA for now... AWOL in a bit
Unfortunately nobody here has his phone # to give him a call
Maybe teabag has it huh
Unfortunately nobody here has his phone # to give him a call
Maybe teabag has it huh
MC already dipped under 17 GH/s
Sad to see what was once the best pool go downhill because the pool operator goes AWOL.
Has ANYONE been able to get a hold of H20?
Sad to see what was once the best pool go downhill because the pool operator goes AWOL.
Has ANYONE been able to get a hold of H20?
February 19, 2014, 02:14:40 AM
MC already dipped under 17 GH/s
Sad to see what was once the best pool go downhill because the pool operator goes AWOL.
Has ANYONE been able to get a hold of H20?
Sad to see what was once the best pool go downhill because the pool operator goes AWOL.
Has ANYONE been able to get a hold of H20?
February 19, 2014, 12:50:42 AM
hmm ... came back to middle after a long break ...
Once again 4 good days and now 3 rip offs in a row
Me and my 66M are going to clevermining ...I suggest all to follow as this pattern just keeps repeating where he seems to take profits
Once again 4 good days and now 3 rip offs in a row
Me and my 66M are going to clevermining ...I suggest all to follow as this pattern just keeps repeating where he seems to take profits
February 19, 2014, 12:36:35 AM
Ok no payouts today? WTF?!?
Damn this just keeps getting better and better...
Damn this just keeps getting better and better...
February 19, 2014, 12:22:31 AM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
if their proxy works as i think it might be.. you could be mining a higher diff coin and get less rejects while another user could be mining a lower diff coin and have many rejects. I imagine they tie the miner's source IP to a stratum daemon that mines a specific coin. Therefore you could have other miners on a diff source IP mining a totally diff coin with a diff reject rate.
That makes me wonder if some users will complain their payout is smaller then others since they had many more rejects..
I would think less coin switching also and possibly the addition of "coin type" optimizations. An example might be lower share difficulty for the low difficulty fast block time coins. Assuming reject rate is based on blocks solving faster than spec, and not on latency (which of course also plays a factor) the rejects should be minimal. Until some coin switching pool without hash allocation comes along and blows the baby out of the bathtub.
You make some good points about lower share diff eliminating some rejects and less switching. That makes a lot of sense. But I could see cases where a single miner behind NAT with 20 mhash/sec might get tied to a single low diff coin.. and if you do not feed him a share diff rate of 512 or 1024.. he will be hammering you hard with a share diff of 32 or 64. That puts a ton of load on a pool server.
That is why I am trying to imagine how they are dividing up their hashing power and what the end result would be for miners on diff coins. Source IP seems the easiest to tie them to a stratum daemon.
Considering there appears to be no individual worker registration, maybe that would be a problem. Then again the current basket is made up of mostly .5~1gh/s+ coins is it not?
Don't you need individual worker's to use vardiff?
Perhaps this is a somewhat manual allocation at this point with static assignments?
I did not analyze the coins they are mining. If they are all higher diff I can see reject rates being lower for everyone but that is giving up a bit of profit ignoring the others.
I do not think you need individual workers anymore with job based vardiff. The code changed over the last 6 months. Dont hold me to that thought but I am pretty sure.
I doubt they are statically assigning them. I would guess src based proxying to stratum servers that have "weights" attached to them.. allowing certain amounts of traffic to hit them. And if I think I could make something like that work it does not impress me very much. It is basically just running a bunch of pools at once and dividing up the hash rate among them. I dont see how it will make payouts magically increase combined with the normal auto selling going on.
February 18, 2014, 11:54:21 PM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
if their proxy works as i think it might be.. you could be mining a higher diff coin and get less rejects while another user could be mining a lower diff coin and have many rejects. I imagine they tie the miner's source IP to a stratum daemon that mines a specific coin. Therefore you could have other miners on a diff source IP mining a totally diff coin with a diff reject rate.
That makes me wonder if some users will complain their payout is smaller then others since they had many more rejects..
I would think less coin switching also and possibly the addition of "coin type" optimizations. An example might be lower share difficulty for the low difficulty fast block time coins. Assuming reject rate is based on blocks solving faster than spec, and not on latency (which of course also plays a factor) the rejects should be minimal. Until some coin switching pool without hash allocation comes along and blows the baby out of the bathtub.
You make some good points about lower share diff eliminating some rejects and less switching. That makes a lot of sense. But I could see cases where a single miner behind NAT with 20 mhash/sec might get tied to a single low diff coin.. and if you do not feed him a share diff rate of 512 or 1024.. he will be hammering you hard with a share diff of 32 or 64. That puts a ton of load on a pool server.
That is why I am trying to imagine how they are dividing up their hashing power and what the end result would be for miners on diff coins. Source IP seems the easiest to tie them to a stratum daemon.
Considering there appears to be no individual worker registration, maybe that would be a problem. Then again the current basket is made up of mostly .5~1gh/s+ coins is it not?
Don't you need individual worker's to use vardiff?
Perhaps this is a somewhat manual allocation at this point with static assignments?
February 18, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
if their proxy works as i think it might be.. you could be mining a higher diff coin and get less rejects while another user could be mining a lower diff coin and have many rejects. I imagine they tie the miner's source IP to a stratum daemon that mines a specific coin. Therefore you could have other miners on a diff source IP mining a totally diff coin with a diff reject rate.
That makes me wonder if some users will complain their payout is smaller then others since they had many more rejects..
I would think less coin switching also and possibly the addition of "coin type" optimizations. An example might be lower share difficulty for the low difficulty fast block time coins. Assuming reject rate is based on blocks solving faster than spec, and not on latency (which of course also plays a factor) the rejects should be minimal. Until some coin switching pool without hash allocation comes along and blows the baby out of the bathtub.
You make some good points about lower share diff eliminating some rejects and less switching. That makes a lot of sense. But I could see cases where a single miner behind NAT with 20 mhash/sec might get tied to a single low diff coin.. and if you do not feed him a share diff rate of 512 or 1024.. he will be hammering you hard with a share diff of 32 or 64. That puts a ton of load on a pool server.
That is why I am trying to imagine how they are dividing up their hashing power and what the end result would be for miners on diff coins. Source IP seems the easiest to tie them to a stratum daemon.
February 18, 2014, 11:19:18 PM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
if their proxy works as i think it might be.. you could be mining a higher diff coin and get less rejects while another user could be mining a lower diff coin and have many rejects. I imagine they tie the miner's source IP to a stratum daemon that mines a specific coin. Therefore you could have other miners on a diff source IP mining a totally diff coin with a diff reject rate.
That makes me wonder if some users will complain their payout is smaller then others since they had many more rejects..
I would think less coin switching also and possibly the addition of "coin type" optimizations. An example might be lower share difficulty for the low difficulty fast block time coins. Assuming reject rate is based on blocks solving faster than spec, and not on latency (which of course also plays a factor) the rejects should be minimal. Until some coin switching pool without hash allocation comes along and blows the baby out of the bathtub.
February 18, 2014, 11:07:34 PM
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Would I have a problem with 5-10% of my payout being spread amongst upstart Merchant services like Coinbase or hardware companies like KNCminer and any number of the ATM companies or exchanges like Cryptsy or development services like stress testing verticoin? Nope.
Would I have a problem with 5-10% of my payout being spread amongst upstart Merchant services like Coinbase or hardware companies like KNCminer and any number of the ATM companies or exchanges like Cryptsy or development services like stress testing verticoin? Nope.
cryptostocks.com allows you to invest VC style into various crypto projects and get dividends paid. they have a high min withdrawl, but its kinda neat, take your mining from one day a week and invest it into something
Thanks for reminding me. Maybe It's time for another look. I hemmed, hawed and kicked the tires on the Cryptsy shares a day or 2 after they were announced.
I'm sure there have been others, maybe several, better suited for investment than Cryptsy. I was just familiar with Cryptsy at the time and despite its growing pains and questionable timing on what appear to be occasional deposit/withdrawal delays, I think BV has done a decent job with it and I like his approach to an open market as compared to say BTC-e when it comes to adding coins.
I probably should have tried to get more info but assumed that what I was seeing was all they were willing to disclose at the time.
I would assume it's the norm for a typical VC to have a bit more access to detailed financials/business plan type of info before investing, albeit under non disclose, non compete conditions.
Even so I don't coinsider ha haha hahahahaha , myself to be a competent judge of capitol worthy ventures especially given the technical nature and sheer volume of all these possibilities. I could see that as being a full time job for, well tech VC's.
That said I get your point though.
February 18, 2014, 11:07:09 PM
i earned more in 16 hours at another site than 26 here. waiting until h2o fixes whatever is going on. compared BTC/1mhs on several sites over the last week and the low payouts here can't be due to weak altcoins in general as that trend wasn't seen on other sites.
What site are you using?
clevermining. reduced the intensity on the 7850s to 17 and it seems to be working ok so far.
February 18, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
i earned more in 16 hours at another site than 26 here. waiting until h2o fixes whatever is going on. compared BTC/1mhs on several sites over the last week and the low payouts here can't be due to weak altcoins in general as that trend wasn't seen on other sites.
What site are you using?
February 18, 2014, 11:00:41 PM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
if their proxy works as i think it might be.. you could be mining a higher diff coin and get less rejects while another user could be mining a lower diff coin and have many rejects. I imagine they tie the miner's source IP to a stratum daemon that mines a specific coin. Therefore you could have other miners on a diff source IP mining a totally diff coin with a diff reject rate.
That makes me wonder if some users will complain their payout is smaller then others since they had many more rejects..
February 18, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
Basically, little to no coin switching. The list of coins are mined constantly, but at varying percentages.
EDIT: Have to see how it performs under load, but I'm guessing that reject rates would be similar to mining a single coin directly. All day, I've been < 1%.
February 18, 2014, 10:38:33 PM
-Edit- I've been asking waiting and hoping H20 would implement some kind of hash allocation algorithm for several months. Here's a coinspiracy : Maybe H20 has done just that. Altcoinplex is the next stop after the CM test. Should be interesting, maybe they will have a few more coins in a day or 3. Thanks to whoever mentioned it.
You completely read my mind!!!! I thought the exact same thing: MC 2.0.
What am i missing with altcoinplex that makes it diff from other multi pools besides paying out in 3 diff coins?
Just having a proxy that splits the hash power to some coins at the same time? Instead of slamming one at a time?
February 18, 2014, 10:25:07 PM
...
Would I have a problem with 5-10% of my payout being spread amongst upstart Merchant services like Coinbase or hardware companies like KNCminer and any number of the ATM companies or exchanges like Cryptsy or development services like stress testing verticoin? Nope.
Would I have a problem with 5-10% of my payout being spread amongst upstart Merchant services like Coinbase or hardware companies like KNCminer and any number of the ATM companies or exchanges like Cryptsy or development services like stress testing verticoin? Nope.
cryptostocks.com allows you to invest VC style into various crypto projects and get dividends paid. they have a high min withdrawl, but its kinda neat, take your mining from one day a week and invest it into something
February 18, 2014, 10:25:02 PM
-Edit- I've been asking waiting and hoping H20 would implement some kind of hash allocation algorithm for several months. Here's a coinspiracy : Maybe H20 has done just that. Altcoinplex is the next stop after the CM test. Should be interesting, maybe they will have a few more coins in a day or 3. Thanks to whoever mentioned it.
You completely read my mind!!!! I thought the exact same thing: MC 2.0.
February 18, 2014, 10:05:09 PM
BOOOOOOOOOO fucking Whoooooooooooooo, look middlecoins hash is now 18 gigahash, all the people with their pathetic 1 to 10 hash has left the buildling. What the hell will h20 do now. Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, how will i pay for my electricity!!!!!
Yeh Because you obviously must have a massive amount of hash to be calling 10 Mh/s pathetic , What an idiot 10 Mh/s is far from pathetic.
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