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Nice work p2man. Is Slush included in your configs? What are you using to determine when to hop them? Professional interest, you understand  Wink

You might also want to point out that mining at multiple pools will reduce variance significantly, as an added bonus beyond pool hopping.

So, this is how Goat, Eclipse, etc. make money operating their "bonus pools"? By pool hopping? I've not even explored pool hopping, but it seems that it's abusing inaccurate payout measurement schemes at certain pools.

Did I get all that right?

Yes.

Goat did. Eclipse Mining Consortium doesn't. Maybe you meant Clipse? He claims his proxy doesn't pool hop though.


I did mean Clipse, not EclipseMC. My bad.
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Poor impulse control.
Nice work p2man. Is Slush included in your configs? What are you using to determine when to hop them? Professional interest, you understand  Wink

You might also want to point out that mining at multiple pools will reduce variance significantly, as an added bonus beyond pool hopping.

So, this is how Goat, Eclipse, etc. make money operating their "bonus pools"? By pool hopping? I've not even explored pool hopping, but it seems that it's abusing inaccurate payout measurement schemes at certain pools.

Did I get all that right?

Yes.

Goat did. Eclipse Mining Consortium doesn't. Maybe you meant Clipse? He claims his proxy doesn't pool hop though.
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
That list was old documentation (that I have written) for versions of when I added the pool commands to cgminer since you already stated versions - that documentation will give you the exact answers as opposed to guesses (it's in my API-README in cgminer)

I am the developer of the cgminer API from the start - so going with luke-jr's changes will not happen since I don't even know what he has done (or even if he has done it yet) and I've already told him about my changes anyway

It's already tested and implemented in the cgminer git and handles what anyone requiring a set of privileged commands given access to an IP address/subnet - it allows any set of commands of the users choice defined as available to an IP address just liek the current code already works - except with the change of allowing a set of commands rather than the current only 2 groups W: all, and non W: readonly commands.

I already said I would implement it in IRC 26-Jun 23:45 UTC and he made a comment about it in IRC to me 4hrs 40 minutes later at which point I repeated that I had already said before what I was doing and how it would be implemented (based on an idea I had months ago but no one had said they had any need of it)

The request "it would be nice if you implemented it in the same way." would be the same as me telling you how to write your pool hopping software and expecting you to change it ...

I'm rather used to making changes with no payment so I guess it will happen again to my part (API) of the cgminer software Tongue
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Dont worry if you got no response yet. To accommodate everyone, Ive had to order a bigger server, right now Im waiting for btclot to set it up, and I will need a day or two after that to make sure its ready. Hopefully this weekend.

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https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/pull/243

P4man you might also want to look at the new 'check' command so you can check and tell your users that they haven't done it right ...

Anyway - of course this will be in the next release, not in 2.4.3 of course

Edit: Also, as per the API-README I wrote:
switchpool: cgminer v2.2.0
disablepool, enablepool: cgminer v2.3.0
addpool: cgminer v2.3.1-2
removepool: cgminer v2.3.4

--api-groups, check: next release

removepool (and disable/enable pool) isnt really needed for this phase of puppet master; it is only needed when we do contracted work, where someone can buy a mining contract, a bit like on gpumax. THis is (crudely) implemented but not used at this point, as it does require me holding coins in escrow, and frankly, there doesnt seem to be much demand for shares at >100% PPS.

As for the new version of cgminer; if this gets implemented somehow, then great. You may also want to check with Luke who is making similar changes to BFGminer, it would be nice if you implemented it in the same way.

Puppet master users are asked not to upgrade to a new version of cgminer (or bfgminer) until it has been tested with puppetmaster. I usually send out emails when I deem it safe to upgrade to a new version. Backwards compatibility with cgminer has been good so far, but I rather be safe than sorry.

As for GPUmax; Pirate did ask to limit the per user hashrate that connects/disconnects from gpumax because it causes trouble with load balancing. Ive implemented some changes to that effect and its one reason Im not accepting more than 5GH per user.

As for the API key, obviously there is a risk involved in giving the api key to someone else,  but it cant be greater than giving me full control over cgminer, which is what you do when you use puppet master. You shouldnt mine at a pool if you dont trust the pool op, and likewise, if you are afraid I will steal your hashes, dont sign up for puppetmaster.

-ck
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Ruu \o/
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https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/pull/243

P4man you might also want to look at the new 'check' command so you can check and tell your users that they haven't done it right ...

Anyway - of course this will be in the next release, not in 2.4.3 of course

Edit: Also, as per the API-README I wrote:
switchpool: cgminer v2.2.0
disablepool, enablepool: cgminer v2.3.0
addpool: cgminer v2.3.1-2
removepool: cgminer v2.3.4

--api-groups, check: next release
This will all be in v2.4.4 which will be out in the next day. It should make setting up for this service much easier.
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Has anyone thought to run this by Zux or Pirate?  You might be breaking their TOS.

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[2012/06/27 14:21:10] <@zux0r> let me clarify, it's not against TOS
[2012/06/27 14:21:26] <@zux0r> it's just a risk for the people giving out their creds
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Sent PM to OP .. interested =P
legendary
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Send donations to my sig address Smiley
https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/pull/243

P4man you might also want to look at the new 'check' command so you can check and tell your users that they haven't done it right ...

Anyway - of course this will be in the next release, not in 2.4.3 of course

Edit: Also, as per the API-README I wrote:
switchpool: cgminer v2.2.0
disablepool, enablepool: cgminer v2.3.0
addpool: cgminer v2.3.1-2
removepool: cgminer v2.3.4

--api-groups, check: next release
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Glad to see this announced. Definitely interested.
sr. member
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#RIP freemoney
This could be fun
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Well where money and bitcoins are involved I'm sure a lot of people will sell their mothers for better pps daily. So it is not a suprise hat pool hopping happens.

I see it more of a way to stop pool hopping once and for all. All the informations are available on the Internet, every miner and pool operator can learn about pool hopping and how to protect themselves against it. Everybody has a honest chance to not get abused and have the tools to do it.

And what happens? Well, they stay in their la-la-land thinking nobody is hopping them while the door is completely open. The only solution now is to hop them to death, until they finally decides to change their payment method.

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So, this is how Goat, Eclipse, etc. make money operating their "bonus pools"? By pool hopping? I've not even explored pool hopping, but it seems that it's abusing inaccurate payout measurement schemes at certain pools.

Did I get all that right?

Yes.
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Well where money and bitcoins are involved I'm sure a lot of people will sell their mothers for better pps daily. So it is not a suprise hat pool hopping happens.
member
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So, this is how Goat, Clipse, etc. make money operating their "bonus pools"? By pool hopping? I've not even explored pool hopping, but it seems that it's abusing inaccurate payout measurement schemes at certain pools.

Did I get all that right?

EDIT: I meant "Clipse" not "Eclipse". Sorry Inaba  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Why is it so damn hot in here?
sub this is EPIX p4man you are a genius.

especially love your anti bfl ranting and asic realism

you rock dude !

So, you don't want to DDOS him anymore?  Grin

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Where did I say I was going to DDOS him Huh

It is illegal firstly and I said "somebody should DDOS him" in an old thread where I thought he was botnet owner control centre with 220 GPUs ...

Please just stop posting.  Nobody cares what you say and anyone who doesn't already have you on ignore thinks less of the entire Bitcoin community because of you.
hero member
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sub this is EPIX p4man you are a genius.

especially love your anti bfl ranting and asic realism

you rock dude !

So, you don't want to DDOS him anymore?  Grin

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Where did I say I was going to DDOS him Huh

It is illegal firstly and I said "somebody should DDOS him" in an old thread where I thought he was botnet owner control centre with 220 GPUs ...
hero member
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sub this is EPIX p4man you are a genius.

especially love your anti bfl ranting and asic realism

you rock dude !

So, you don't want to DDOS him anymore?  Grin

(sorry, couldn't resist)
hero member
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sub this is EPIX p4man you are a genius.

especially love your anti bfl ranting and asic realism

you rock dude !
hero member
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Above I posted instructions to recompile cgminer on linux, so anyone who's requested an invite, and wants to recompile can already spend some time Smiley

The actual invites along with the rest of the instructions will be sent by email in a few days.
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This looks interesting...
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