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legendary
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One positive thing about losing btc38, the price dropping and the failed attempts to update quarks code is that everyone can see the problems quark have.
Dumpers exist with every coin, yet despite the continual dumping, the coin survives and the community grows. It does not matter who owns what and who sells what, its a free world, the problem I have is not dumping because one would like to sell, but market manipulation, by dumping with the intention of causing panic selloff to acquire the same coins back you just dumped for a fraction of what they were worth before you dumped. I have heard this is widespread common practice not only confined to quark.
It disgusts me


This is not only not confined to quark it is present in much stronger terms in many other coins.

I insist NOBODY including max got easy quark from mining. I was there at the launch and if you mined you got quark the same as everyone else.

Same for the markets nobody ever did anything much with quark (max) so i don't think he got many explaining why the coin was left to sink to near these levels for months before bill helped raise interest and price.

Max probably still does not have many hence his not giving a much time or effort to the project.

In fact the largest whales accumulated their quarks at a much higher price so I have no idea what they are thinking it's like they bought tons up and just forgot about it.

If a coin swap was done i would guess many whales and a huge amount of quark would not even get swapped.

If anyone wants to dispute anything i have said here bring evidence to support your statements.

Quark is  a strange project and up unitl now a huge wasted opportunity.

Sadly the best chance we have right now is to just wait it out for max to review each improvement a slowly integrate it with quark.

Although he will not explain or has not explained why we must go through all this instead of just jumping straight to pivx latest build.

I can only imagine (although this is speculation from a non tech view) he is not fully versed on all the pivX implementations and would not know what to do at this stage if something went wrong.  After all pivx has like 20 devs working on it.  I guess now we just have to wait for max's reviews as and when he has time. This is not a great position to be in but he is a proven developer and until we have a better option there is no point of putting a unknown developer with not ties to quark and no reputation on this board in charge of a 4 yr old coin that has kept going all this time.

I do not want max as lead dev because he is too slow and does not give enough time to quark and does not answer simple questions on this thread. Although right now there is no better option sadly. He obviously can not be that money driven else he would be buying all this up at 100-50 sats and putting some effort to get this back to 10000 sats or greater.

I think he simply has a good real life job and is probably already wealthy and not hungry enough to do all the work needed to bring quark to the level we need. So therefore he is not suitable for a lead dev position and would be better to suited to just code reviews as he has said.

The course of action should be this.


1. group buy a ton of quark at these levels and created a development pot to attract some know and good dev teams

or

agree the new code base with comes with a large and worthy dev tax for them

released only for milestones acheived


2. use our contacts on this board to make sure developers realise the opportunity here.

Icos are now dangerous. Quark is a pow coin where essentially the devs can not only accumulated a lot at 100 sats levels but also have a constant reasonable flow of quark for their efforts to rebuild a very famous and mature project.



OR

we just have to wait for max or specca to come through with something. Max is apparently going to review masternodes to go with the pos that has been already integrated so there is some hope there but it will be a long haul and this project needs much faster pace.

Speca is learning more crypto but starting a new job in a new country? that says to me very little time left for other things for quite some time.

 
My last post asking max a straight question was deleted by him . We will need to start a new thread if legitimate questions simply enquiring again why we are going step by step here rather than straight to a new pivx latest build  are deleted. This is not the sort of moderation a decentralised open source project should have.



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One positive thing about losing btc38, the price dropping and the failed attempts to update quarks code is that everyone can see the problems quark have.
Dumpers exist with every coin, yet despite the continual dumping, the coin survives and the community grows. It does not matter who owns what and who sells what, its a free world, the problem I have is not dumping because one would like to sell, but market manipulation, by dumping with the intention of causing panic selloff to acquire the same coins back you just dumped for a fraction of what they were worth before you dumped. I have heard this is widespread common practice not only confined to quark.
It disgusts me
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Can the moderator just ban Thule.

He has no credibility since asking for donations to promote Quark whilst at the same time calling it a scam.

He is just trolling.
legendary
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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?
Thats great to hear, what is his achievements so far?
Is he reliable?
Would he be willing to commit to quark for a while?
What do you think is an appropriate compensation for him to receive from the quark community?

I don't think we can put quark in the hands of unknown persons who can vanish as quickly as they appear.

I will even wait for max and his glacial time frames rather than let unknown person not even part of the quark community.

Unless this guy who can fork quark is a know developer to this board let's wait for max or speca.

Would be good if we could grab the attention of a proven dev here but we would need to give them incentive.

Yeah, I'd have to agree re: adding a developer that has no affiliation nor significant ongoing financial incentive.

FYI everyone, so far, the hybrid POS/POW code that was released in the present beta has been working for everyone testing it as far as I understand.

As stated, I would support a coin swap, as I do believe it would be that fastest way forward, however, there is currently code that exists for Quark that introduces the hybrid hashing algorithm and there is currently untested masternode code that hopefully Max can test over the next while if we proceed with a release of the hybrid code.

Well that does introduce an element of hope. For now this is the best option we have if max is not going to personally fork pivX for us then we have to follow his path. I would rather jump to a copy of pivx but since we have no person here that can do it right now then we will have to go step by step for now at max's snail pace.

legendary
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Max didn't do much ?
Ohhh thats what i predicted and got instantly attacked how productiv he is .
When Max is running over 10 coins each and everyone a premine desaster than there is no wonder he is not working on Quark since there is no possibility to milk it anymore.
I told people over a month ago to leave Quark asap since it will die because of the chinese regulations.
I got thanked by many old users back from 2012/13 .
You describe Quark as unique.
I would like to inform people that Quark is not unique at all.
Its a clone of a russian coin which Max used.Its not even his own code.
And i can predict something more that this coin is going to die in the next 6 months since regulations are going to ban it from any exchange in the world.
You would need first to create a product since Quark won't pass the regulations as coin.
But since i know the big bag holders won't raise a finger to get something done i can tell you guys Quark has no chance to pass regulations which will come soon even in western countries.

Btw back in 2013 people arround Max claimed he is working hard on updates for over 6 months.When a programer checked what he did it was 6 lines of code changed. Cheesy
Seems history is repeating since i heard since june how hard Max is working

What are you on about now. If quark has to be banned from every exchange then so does every pow coin including bitcoin and litecoin. POW distributed coins are not going to be banned. Even china is not fully out yet. They are looking to regulate not ban many say. Then there is many other countries that are actively adopting crypto (bitcoin for now)

There was no premine as has been proven many times before, the mining phase is above board for a short phase pow coin. I have proven this many times. SO if pow coins pass regulations quark will pass regulations.

If pow coins do not then bitcoin is banned too.
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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?
Thats great to hear, what is his achievements so far?
Is he reliable?
Would he be willing to commit to quark for a while?
What do you think is an appropriate compensation for him to receive from the quark community?

I don't think we can put quark in the hands of unknown persons who can vanish as quickly as they appear.

I will even wait for max and his glacial time frames rather than let unknown person not even part of the quark community.

Unless this guy who can fork quark is a know developer to this board let's wait for max or speca.

Would be good if we could grab the attention of a proven dev here but we would need to give them incentive.

Yeah, I'd have to agree re: adding a developer that has no affiliation nor significant ongoing financial incentive.

FYI everyone, so far, the hybrid POS/POW code that was released in the present beta has been working for everyone testing it as far as I understand.

As stated, I would support a coin swap, as I do believe it would be that fastest way forward, however, there is currently code that exists for Quark that introduces the hybrid hashing algorithm and there is currently untested masternode code that hopefully Max can test over the next while if we proceed with a release of the hybrid code.
legendary
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Guys Quark is dead.

I told you months before the old Group has taken control of Quark again since there is profit.
Have a look at the beginning of that thread how their group
Digitalindustry
Max
MCP
Cryptohunter
etc

Pushed Quark and attacked anybody who showed proof about that coin.
China is dead for Quark and soon in next 6 months the rest of the world will be also dead for Quark since Quark has no valid product or backup.
Its just a coin with a name and Brand and thats it.It will won't be accept anywhere anymore.
Times changed.
Even if you would like to revive that coin which is in my eyes impossible you would first get rid of
Max and his core members who are also main coin holders and dumping when they see profit and no growth possibility.
Why do you think Digitalindustry isn't posting anymore ?
Because he dumped again some coins and see's there is no future to make money.

I gave everyone the advise to dump their Quarks at $0.1 and informed that Digitalindustry joined back Quark and that it will lead to another dump session.
You should have listened to me.You just don't learn from the past

How are you this insane.
You can't have the argument both ways. Either max and DI and indeed myself have dumped or we are in control of all of the coins?

Please stop making up stupid accusations. I see millions of quark changing hands over and over here. I minded mine fairly against anyone else and still I have to put up with his moronic nonsense that somehow I'm an inside quark scammer.

Either be constructive or I think face a final ban from this thread.

Max and DI I have no idea how many they now hold or have held.

If you look at the obvious reason qrk has totally crashed is btc38 and china being closed down.  The same has happened to many others that heavily relied on chinese markets. WDC has had the same and mec and several others.

I would love analysis on the top holder wallets over the last 6 months. I wonder how many even sold their coins.

Although I agree on one thing quark is a mess I would not invest another cent in it until I see some solid development. The last few months have produced nothing much at all. Max is only apparently able to do code reviews (not much help but it is something) and speca (has a new job abroad and does not have much spare time and is not actually a crypto developer per say) so therefore so far we have nothing much to get excited over right now.

QRK though is a famous coin (regardless of what people are saying here) many other coins were branched from quark and now even coins copying its name qwark.

This coin can be turned around and any smart developer here would be noticing at 100 sats levels quark is ripe for a total refurb.

Although for sure it is a big gamble to buy it now in its current state unless you're a developer capable of bringing quark up to date.



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Back in June this year Thule was asking for donations to promote Quark.  You can see at the top of page 450 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.8980

He is either a fudder or a conman.  Take your pick.

this man was driven mad by speculation
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Back in June this year Thule was asking for donations to promote Quark.  You can see at the top of page 450 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.8980

He is either a fudder or a conman.  Take your pick.
legendary
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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?
Thats great to hear, what is his achievements so far?
Is he reliable?
Would he be willing to commit to quark for a while?
What do you think is an appropriate compensation for him to receive from the quark community?

I don't think we can put quark in the hands of unknown persons who can vanish as quickly as they appear.

I will even wait for max and his glacial time frames rather than let unknown person not even part of the quark community.

Unless this guy who can fork quark is a know developer to this board let's wait for max or speca.

Would be good if we could grab the attention of a proven dev here but we would need to give them incentive.
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Quark is wonderful! The main thing that a coin can do, like a monetary system, is to produce a useful socio-economic effect. Quark did it. He collected interesting people together, until a critical social mass accumulated. Then there was an explosion. Quark became the third currency, having made a super record of crypto growth. The quark is again cheap and I want to buy it again. Hello everybody! Hi Colin, I really like your music!

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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?
Thats great to hear, what is his achievements so far?
Is he reliable?
Would he be willing to commit to quark for a while?
What do you think is an appropriate compensation for him to receive from the quark community?
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Sorry to hear about your probs Pondi, I hope you feel better real soon.
It'd be good to hear from Speccy a few words on his thoughts for the project.  Communication is key around these parts, we all have smart phones and it doesn't take much time and effort to login here and keep channels open.

To add to your list, I support crptovation's wish to make Quark quantum secure/resistant. It would give it a USP and make it a stand out coin (again).  I'd plough resources into that goal.

Can we hear from Max or Vic why a simple(?) switch to Pivx code isn't cheaper/faster/better at his moment.

Peace and love.

Speca will post when he is ready to reengage on the forum. I have been posting in his stead while he has so much on his plate. Forums are time consuming, it wont hurt us to be a little patient. We are still looking for more developers to commit to this project, there is a huge opportunity in quark as Cryptohunter has pointed out.
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Sorry to hear about your probs Pondi, I hope you feel better real soon.
It'd be good to hear from Speccy a few words on his thoughts for the project.  Communication is key around these parts, we all have smart phones and it doesn't take much time and effort to login here and keep channels open.

To add to your list, I support crptovation's wish to make Quark quantum secure/resistant. It would give it a USP and make it a stand out coin (again).  I'd plough resources into that goal.

Can we hear from Max or Vic why a simple(?) switch to Pivx code isn't cheaper/faster/better at his moment.

Peace and love.
legendary
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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?

Well we really need to bring on a new dedicated developer /development team. Speca sounds good but I guess it will take him some time to familiarise himself with crypto specifically.

Any developer who is familiar with quark is crazy not to be buying this up for 100 sats and doing quark up it is a old and very famous coin.



Completely agree.

Speca777 once he engages will be a true asset to Quark.

I like the fact that he is spending the time necessary before engaging and I am sure he has many many contacts that are also software engineers/computer scientists that would be interested in this project.

Active involvement on the community side with everyone participating and contributing will cause new dev's to see that the community is alive and well. This is very important.
Well said.
I think there are many many members of the community who whilst not coding savvy would love to contribute and help in any way possible.  I know a few of whom are raring to go.
We need to hear from speccy and pondi regarding the roadmap which was promised in september.
If speccy and team of developers can code I understand that max was able to help debug.
So hopefully with vic on board this project can move ahead with all hands on deck.  And i guess that means using pivx which i think is the most sensible and quickest way forward.

My apologies to all for my absence at a time when dialogue was due.
I have been experiencing migraines the past 2 weeks, to the point that I had to abandon screens and rest for relief.  Sometimes it is necessary to spend the time to sharpen the axe, or else all energies are exhausted swinging a blunt axe.
The road map, updates and development have been delayed by many matters outside of our control. Matters such as Speca accepting an offer of new employment in another country. Speca has had multiple offers to consider over the past few weeks, impressive enough to raise many eyebrows. This has temporarily removed him from the quark project until he has settled into his new job, country and home.
He is still actively engaged in the blockchain technology learning its architecture, particularly, POS, with the belief that understanding the pos architecture in its entirety will boost the quark project beyond current expectations.
As soon as he is settled , he will soon resume work on the Quark project after work hours.
Other matters such as researching the correct technology to fork off, reviewing the quark algorithm, where it fails and where it succeeds etc.

There is so much work to do. Our intentions are not to just bootstrap quark for a quick fix only to fail where it counts.A talented long term committed development core is paramount for the project to succeed.

Although, we have no official road map as yet, I can share our fundamental intentions for Quark

1. Build a new core development team replacing Max.
2. Build a new website.
3. Replace Slack with a more secure platform.
4. Give the Quark community and stake holders command of the project in true decentralized fashion, not the developer or development team alone.
5. Rebuild Quark to the latest technology of pow/pos hybrid with a built in development fund for the future. (PIVX is ideal for Quark as it stands)
6. A new mobile wallet.
7. Get Quark listed on leading exchanges.
8. Bring to Quark integrity, honesty and transparency.
9. Honor those who believed in and backed Quark, only to get burned by the experience.
10. Revive the old community Quark once had.
11.Take Quark to excellence through innovative development.
12. Listen to the Quark community and execute its will.

Feel free to add your ideas to the list.




 
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What would happen if the project continues without Max and then down the line is he able to pull the plug on any progress?

I think you are misunderstanding what happens during a hard fork. Once a hard fork takes place their will be two Quark blockchains one that Max completely controls (this one we are on now) and the new Quark blockchain that will use PIVX tech.

All people who currently hold Quark will have both. If you hold 10,000 QRK prior to the hard fork then you will have two sets of coins that your private key controls, 10k on the old and 10k on the new.

If Max and the miners continue their support of the old chain, then the old chain will stay in existence.

The new Quark chain with PIVX tech will be supported by new miners and new dev's.





Thanks for the clarification Cryptovation.
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If Pivx is used, what factors would differentiate Quark from Pivx? Will there be anything unique that Quark has?
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I know a guy who can hard fork off of PivX. Question is, what is the compensation?

Well we really need to bring on a new dedicated developer /development team. Speca sounds good but I guess it will take him some time to familiarise himself with crypto specifically.

Any developer who is familiar with quark is crazy not to be buying this up for 100 sats and doing quark up it is a old and very famous coin.



Completely agree.

Speca777 once he engages will be a true asset to Quark.

I like the fact that he is spending the time necessary before engaging and I am sure he has many many contacts that are also software engineers/computer scientists that would be interested in this project.

Active involvement on the community side with everyone participating and contributing will cause new dev's to see that the community is alive and well. This is very important.
Well said.
I think there are many many members of the community who whilst not coding savvy would love to contribute and help in any way possible.  I know a few of whom are raring to go.
We need to hear from speccy and pondi regarding the roadmap which was promised in september.
If speccy and team of developers can code I understand that max was able to help debug.
So hopefully with vic on board this project can move ahead with all hands on deck.  And i guess that means using pivx which i think is the most sensible and quickest way forward.
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