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My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks

Someone who was able to withdraw successfully from Bizhonchou should make a guide or something.  Half the questions in slack/forum is how to withdraw ERC token from Biz.
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My Qtum is still at https://qtum.bizhongchou.com/qtum_ico is it ok there for now or do I need to move it? Also is there a windows wallet available yet to move it to. Thanks
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i participated in qtum ico, but i come here the first time, god bless qtum
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Announcing the winners of the Distributed 2017 Hackathon in St. Louis:




Winner of the $10,000.00 prize awarded in Qtum tokens:

D-REX (Built on Qtum Testnet)

Portions of this project received funding from the World Bank

Lead Developer: Dev Bharel


D-REX (Distributed Real-time Energy Exchange)

https://devpost.com/software/d-rex


Abstract: Provide a marketplace for financiers and providers to issue and purchase electricity futures. By creating a market for microfinancing generation of electricity we can crowdfund infrastructure to provide electricity for the 1.5 billion people in the world currently without.

User Groups:

Consumers:

Consumers are the people interacting with the electric generators to receive electricity. They spend Solar Tokens using their mobile client (or SMS codes) at generators to pay for electricity in kilowatt hour chunks.
They can also create requests for solar generators in their region, detailing location, wattage usage, reason for electricty need, etc, which can be bid on by providers and funded by financiers.  


Providers:

Providers bid on requests from consumers. They provide bids detailing type of solar energy unit, cost of installation, time for installation, their insurance, etc.

(FUTURE) Need to be verified or have some reputation modeling or have some sort of insurance.


Insurers:

Planned for the future
Insure providers or financiers
Provide derivatives of energy futures. Sell part ownership of many utilities for n time.
Financiers:
Can be large institutions (Royal Bank of Scotland, Deutsche Bank, etc) or anyone with money. Can even be part or fully owned by the community itself.
Get the emotional payout of helping bring electricity to the underprivileged as well as the financial incentive into micro financing infrastructure.  


Specs:

Request:  {
   “Location”: STRING,
   “Creator”: STRING, //address of the owner who submitted the tx
   “WATTAGE_REQ”: INT,
   “REASON”: STRING
}

Bid: {
   “ProviderAddr”: STRING,
   “Unit_type”: STRING,
   “Cost_of_installation”: INT
}

Process:

Consumers make a request for a new generator. They list the location, wattage requirements, reason for request, etc.
Providers look through requests and bid on them. They include the type of generator, cost of installation, time for installation, insurance, etc. This bidding process is open for ONE WEEK. Consumers can then accept one of the bids, at which point...
Financiers bid on consumer accepted requests. This process is open for ONE MONTH. If the request is successfully funded a generator contract is created to represent the pending device.
The Financiers that own the the generator should all call the smart contract and submit their preferred cost for electricity the smart contract should charge. The price is the average of all submitted values weighted by the ownership stake each financier has. If no financier has submitted a price request, then the average is just 0 and the generator runs for free. If only some of the financiers have provided a price, it’s just the average of the ones provided. If you don’t vote, you don’t get a voice and must accept the price set by your co financiers.

The Provider that won the bid then installs the generator in the location specified.
The Consumer that issued the request than approves the installation by instantiating the generator by sending an initial token to it. The first tx MUST be by the Consumer that issued the request. After initialization, the generator can be funded by anyone and used by anyone.

Consumers can then fund the generator get electricity. They pay in solar tokens which are then disbursed to financiers proportionate to their ownership stake in the generator. Consumers can buy these solar tokens from exchanges.
Financiers make money by selling their solar tokens on exchanges to anyone who wants to buy. Solar tokens have a consumptive value on the platform, not just a speculative value, so there’s always a demand.



Tech:

Contracts:

Solar Tokens: ERC 20 token contract. ICO a limited supply of x million .
MarketPlace (split into two sections):
New Generators: Consumers make requests with the given metadata (location, wattage, reason for request, etc). Request is bid on and then awarded.
Old Generators: Financiers can sell all or part of their ownership of their generators or even market futures and based on the generators ownerships they own.

Generators:

Each generator is it’s own smart contract. Issues 10,000 (100.00%) ownership tokens at inception based on proportionate financing.
GetAvg(): read only function that returns the average price of what the generator should charge for electricity.
Status pending until first tx which needs to be done by Consumer who created the initial request.
(Future) Funds set aside for maintenance / some catch for it.  

Stack:

Flask Microservice to interact with Qtum RPC
React front end for UI




Interesting Points:


Very interesting use case for trusted execution environments. Only the solar generator should be able to make its transactions, someone shouldn’t be able to mess with it.
Smart Contracts built with generic “Utility Model”. Crowdfunding electricity now, but could crowdfund any utility (Water Mill, Textile Machines, etc…)
Providers can have radically different ways units and reputation. There should be a insurer for

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Is it true the angel backers bought 20m qtum tokens for 1m usd?

Where you heard this
Can you provide source of it?
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These accusation are getting old. If anyone has any doubt just ask one question - is Dai currently in jail for embezzlement, scam or theft? No, he is not. There is no evidence or proof to substantiate any of the accusations. Qtum is moving forward each week, it has partnerships with big Chinese organisations and Dapps are being build on Qtum network even before the release of the main net. The trading volume has reached 50M over the weekend. It's clearly not a scam - you have to be mentally challenged to believe that it is.
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This was addressed in February. Some people (primarily accounts created or which have suddenly become active in the past month or two here and on reddit) continue to bring this issue up. Read the Smith and Crown article if you want a fairly unbiased account of where it stands. Nothing has changed because it's he-said vs he-said. There is no consensus to come to regarding a "solution", or anything to "clear up". We've made our statement and he disagrees with it; there's nothing else to be done. Furthermore, all of the things that Smith and Crown have said would rectify this concern in their eyes have already been accomplished, such as financial transparency and our code being released with all of the things implemented we said we would. Additionally, Qtum has 3 co-founders, it's not just one person running the entire project. We manage ourselves in a way that it's impossible, even if 1 of us became corrupt, to just up and run away with the crowdfunded money. This is common sense in any blockchain project like this. It's not 2014 anymore, where everyone naively shares a single-sig wallet. And finally, that article that "hangs over our head" is alone.. Well, I guess there's also that funny guy on youtube that said all the code me and my team had worked on (and that ~8 teams built hackathon projects on in the past 24 hours) actually doesn't exist. I literally LOL'd when I watched that just at the pure irony and timing of it.

Where was this addressed in February, and more importantly, can we still read the statement? I have read the SmithandCrown article and David's side of the story, but I would very much like to hear Patrick's. I agree with you entirely that Qtum has been more transparent than nearly any other project out there. With that being said, when people bring up the one-sided BitBay story, it's very hard to argue when you don't even know what Dai says about his own involvement.
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Can I withdraw my token from allcoin to bittrex ? Is it possible ?

Thank you
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).

Exactly.  This has been hanging over the project for along time now.  Articles like the one above will only continue to pop up as people learn more and more about qtum.  All these bloggers will happen on this story and report on it in hopes that a juicy story will get them more steem dollars, or youtube views.  That's why I feel the matter should be settled sometime in the near future to help the project proceed forward.  If there is so much misinformation and fud out there, then whatever truth will be overtaken at some point. 

It's been a very long time since I saw it but a while back they publicly commented that while he was at Bitbay he did not participate in the scam but obviously how are you going to prove any of that besides he said / she said

Someone posted a while ago that the Qtum team had addressed the issue on Slack, but I did not see the conversation. Another person mentioned that the Qtum team posted a statement on their website regarding the matter, but if it were ever there, it doesn't appear to be there now. I really wish that they were more willing to speak out about the situation because making people guess leads to some cynical explanations on the whole ordeal.

I don't think I said they posted it to their web site. I'm pretty sure that I said he issued a statement when the alligations where first made, which did happen. The only reason it is a big deal because FUDDERS are making it a big deal. I could go the rest of my life without hearing another word of all this BS and be just fine. Don't you guys have anything better to talk about? 

I'm not making any accusations, I clearly said I think they're inaccurate. To not address them, and to pretend like they don't exist is a huge mistake if you want community trust in your project. The cryptocurrency subreddit, for example, views Qtum very badly (most users say that they think it's a scam). Again, I am completely on-board the Qtum project and the amazing work that the devs have done, but I just don't see a way that Western users get over Dai's previous work in BitBay if it's not properly addressed and explained. So far, all I can find through research is the word of David Zimbeck, which certainly is biased in his favor.

Let's not act as if it would be as hard as developing a VM that is compatible with x86 as it is to give a brief summary of Dai's involvement in BitBay. It wouldn't be hard to clear the air here.

They already addressed this a while back. It's just he said she said. QTUM said that while Patrick was at Bitbay he did not participate in the scam. It'll never die down and that Smith & Crown article is very old. People want to throw FUD because they want other projects to succeed. Every coin suffers from it.
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This was addressed in February. Some people (primarily accounts created or which have suddenly become active in the past month or two here and on reddit) continue to bring this issue up. Read the Smith and Crown article if you want a fairly unbiased account of where it stands. Nothing has changed because it's he-said vs he-said. There is no consensus to come to regarding a "solution", or anything to "clear up". We've made our statement and he disagrees with it; there's nothing else to be done. Furthermore, all of the things that Smith and Crown have said would rectify this concern in their eyes have already been accomplished, such as financial transparency and our code being released with all of the things implemented we said we would. Additionally, Qtum has 3 co-founders, it's not just one person running the entire project. We manage ourselves in a way that it's impossible, even if 1 of us became corrupt, to just up and run away with the crowdfunded money. This is common sense in any blockchain project like this. It's not 2014 anymore, where everyone naively shares a single-sig wallet. And finally, that article that "hangs over our head" is alone.. Well, I guess there's also that funny guy on youtube that said all the code me and my team had worked on (and that ~8 teams built hackathon projects on in the past 24 hours) actually doesn't exist. I literally LOL'd when I watched that just at the pure irony and timing of it.
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).

Exactly.  This has been hanging over the project for along time now.  Articles like the one above will only continue to pop up as people learn more and more about qtum.  All these bloggers will happen on this story and report on it in hopes that a juicy story will get them more steem dollars, or youtube views.  That's why I feel the matter should be settled sometime in the near future to help the project proceed forward.  If there is so much misinformation and fud out there, then whatever truth will be overtaken at some point. 


Someone posted a while ago that the Qtum team had addressed the issue on Slack, but I did not see the conversation. Another person mentioned that the Qtum team posted a statement on their website regarding the matter, but if it were ever there, it doesn't appear to be there now. I really wish that they were more willing to speak out about the situation because making people guess leads to some cynical explanations on the whole ordeal.

I don't think I said they posted it to their web site. I'm pretty sure that I said he issued a statement when the alligations where first made, which did happen. The only reason it is a big deal because FUDDERS are making it a big deal. I could go the rest of my life without hearing another word of all this BS and be just fine. Don't you guys have anything better to talk about? 

I'm not making any accusations, I clearly said I think they're inaccurate. To not address them, and to pretend like they don't exist is a huge mistake if you want community trust in your project. The cryptocurrency subreddit, for example, views Qtum very badly (most users say that they think it's a scam). Again, I am completely on-board the Qtum project and the amazing work that the devs have done, but I just don't see a way that Western users get over Dai's previous work in BitBay if it's not properly addressed and explained. So far, all I can find through research is the word of David Zimbeck, which certainly is biased in his favor.

Let's not act as if it would be as hard as developing a VM that is compatible with x86 as it is to give a brief summary of Dai's involvement in BitBay. It wouldn't be hard to clear the air here.
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).

Exactly.  This has been hanging over the project for along time now.  Articles like the one above will only continue to pop up as people learn more and more about qtum.  All these bloggers will happen on this story and report on it in hopes that a juicy story will get them more steem dollars, or youtube views.  That's why I feel the matter should be settled sometime in the near future to help the project proceed forward.  If there is so much misinformation and fud out there, then whatever truth will be overtaken at some point. 

Someone posted a while ago that the Qtum team had addressed the issue on Slack, but I did not see the conversation. Another person mentioned that the Qtum team posted a statement on their website regarding the matter, but if it were ever there, it doesn't appear to be there now. I really wish that they were more willing to speak out about the situation because making people guess leads to some cynical explanations on the whole ordeal.
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).

Exactly.  This has been hanging over the project for along time now.  Articles like the one above will only continue to pop up as people learn more and more about qtum.  All these bloggers will happen on this story and report on it in hopes that a juicy story will get them more steem dollars, or youtube views.  That's why I feel the matter should be settled sometime in the near future to help the project proceed forward.  If there is so much misinformation and fud out there, then whatever truth will be overtaken at some point. 
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Distributed 2017 Hackathon Update: 12:42PM, less than 20 minutes before development must stop

We are nearing the end of the coding period at the Hackathon. Teams of developers have now had 24 hours to create a proof-of-concept to compete for 4 prizes:

3 prizes totaling $10,000.00 to be judged by a panel, awarded for best use case for a Blockchain product. Their critiques will be covered and posted later, as the projects are released.

The other prize is $10,000.00 worth of Qtum tokens, awarded to whichever project builds the best use case on the Qtum Blockchain (test network).

Right now it is lunch time in St. Louis, and we are having southern BBQ lunch, but after lunch development ends and the judging begins.



Qtum Development Update: Week ending July 21st


Changes made through this week to the core wallet:

Bugs fixed:

* [EVM/Consensus] Partially fixed a bug where the block gas limit was not completely enforced. A fix for the remaining issue is coming soon
* [EVM/Consensus] Fixed a bug where multiple gas refunds to the same address and of the same amount could be left out of a block and still be valid, allowing stakers to potentially still gas refunds

Work completed:
* [Build/Documentation] Added instructions for building Qtum on OSX
* [EVM/Consensus] Changed the EVM blockchain interface so that it behaves the exact same as in Ethereum, making Qtum smart contracts 100% compatible with Ethereum
* [Consensus] Changed the "VM version" field within transactions to properly use our designed version format, and enforce that unknown versions are not allowed on the blockchain
* [P2P] Added several rules for standard transactions, including sane ranges for allowed gas limits, gas price, and VM versions
* [Consensus] Added a consensus rule that extremely low gas-limit transactions are now allowed on the blockchain. This only affects executions that were not provided enough gas to actually execute anything anyway

In-progress work and soon to be fixed bugs:

* [MPoS/Consensus] Final testing and bug fixing in MPoS is nearly complete
* [DGP/Consensus] Final testing and bug fixing for DGP should be complete next week




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Is it true the angel backers bought 20m qtum tokens for 1m usd?
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.

I'm all on-board the Qtum project, but that logic is the definition of ignorant. If Bernie Madoff opens a new investment firm, I don't think you'd be so eager to invest. The same principles apply here, if you actually believe what is being said (which I, of course, don't).
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

People can change you know, just because he maybe did something like that once doesn't mean he'll do it again.
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b

Write on medium that is better ... because that nobody follows you here...
We believe in the qtum project!
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I think this is a good advanced project but when doing research I found a lot of reports how QTUM founder stole money from BitBay. There is article on reddit, medium, bitcointalk. Not only this but a lot of bad practices behind this guy's (pump and dump,fake ICO, and so on). I think all this is holding this coin price so low. People learned their lesson and won't invest in projects which leaders have shady past. There are chat logs on medium from this guys when they prepare to pump a coin with thousands bitcoins. Look to this link  https://medium.com/@icocountdown/due-diligence-pack-for-qtum-7369ef48917b


Patricks work is proving them all wrong. He isn't scamming no one, he is making one of the best blockchains to date and has an awesome team behind him. What more could a community ask from him? Also, the returns from the ICO are amazing for the people who invested. Everybody is happy with what he has done. It's just "people" keep bringing up the "bitbay" bs...

We as a community support this project and Patrick no matter what claims are made that he did. We read through all the bs...
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