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Topic: [ANN] (QTUM) - A Scalable Smart Contract Platform w/ Proof of Stake - page 213. (Read 525530 times)

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where is the source code ?


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Sure. And some people just want to make it clear to others that there are some additional not so obvious risks here.

Whitepapers are cool but are they still going to release some code before the ICO?

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If you do not read our codes, or don’t understand it if or when we release it - do not participate.

We ONLY want smart money investing in our non-profit Qtum. The smarter the money, the morer betterer the non-profit returns.

Please contact Kevin at PwC so to stay abreast as to when our next dog and pony show will be on our English Slack channel. Qtum's Chinese Slack forthcoming to appease the overwhelming Chinese-cum-Eastern marketplace.

Happy Holi!


"That's just great! There's hardly enough room in this here office for all us elephants, yet Qtum, with its infinite wisdom, decides to further pack the place with smart money."
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Sure. And some people just want to make it clear to others that there are some additional not so obvious risks here.

Whitepapers are cool but are they still going to release some code before the ICO?
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If you have not read the whitepapers, or don’t understand the risks involved in this industry - do not participate.

i do not understand? so what's the meaning of this?

only people who can understand this long paper can participate?




Qtum white paper

https://qtum.org/uploads/files/cf6d69348ca50dd985b60425ccf282f3.pdf
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A Message From The Team:

As we near the March 16th opening of the Qtum Crowdsale, we’d like to take a moment and discuss what to expect over the coming period. First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market. On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.

The nature of this industry is risky, it’s unregulated, and requires an enormous amount of knowledge in order to make meaningful purchasing decisions. The Qtum platform was never presented as a “get rich quick” scheme. Qtum's development plan spans over multiple years and adheres to a detailed roadmap and budget. If you have not read the whitepapers, or don’t understand the risks involved in this industry - do not participate. There are, as with every project of this kind, factors beyond our control at play; from government regulations, to Bitcoin price volatility, or other unknowns.

As many of you may have noticed, we have been managing expectations since we announced Qtum to the Western market in December. We have not made any attempt to sell hype, we didn’t even release details until right before the Crowdsale, simply because we didn’t want to undermine our core technological product with hysteria. We are positive that the technology Qtum presents asserts itself in the eyes of whom has the technological background to understand its novelty, if you don't feel this to be the case, we would advise to abstain from participating in the sale.

We’re confident about the Crowdsale. We have an amazing team of Angel Backers, some of whom will be helping a lot over the next few months. We will be working with multiple industry experts, partners, and PwC to shape the direction of the project right away. If there are unsold Qtum tokens after 30 days, they will be sold to institutions. Our team wants smart money, and we will not allow the project to be fueled by cheap attempts to increase the price of our tokens.

With this said, we look forward to the 16th and the following years.

The Qtum Team
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A Message From The Team:

As we near the March 16th opening of the Qtum Crowdsale, we’d like to take a moment and discuss what to expect over the coming period. First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market. On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.


project still run and ico selling can open 16 march 2017
and who escrow can handle qtum ico selling, because trust is down affect one person in qtum dev team indicate scamer
and open promote use signature campaign and twitter campaign again or not
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A Message From The Team:

As we near the March 16th opening of the Qtum Crowdsale, we’d like to take a moment and discuss what to expect over the coming period. First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market. On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.

The nature of this industry is risky, it’s unregulated, and requires an enormous amount of knowledge in order to make meaningful purchasing decisions. The Qtum platform was never presented as a “get rich quick” scheme. Qtum's development plan spans over multiple years and adheres to a detailed roadmap and budget. If you have not read the whitepapers, or don’t understand the risks involved in this industry - do not participate. There are, as with every project of this kind, factors beyond our control at play; from government regulations, to Bitcoin price volatility, or other unknowns.

As many of you may have noticed, we have been managing expectations since we announced Qtum to the Western market in December. We have not made any attempt to sell hype, we didn’t even release details until right before the Crowdsale, simply because we didn’t want to undermine our core technological product with hysteria. We are positive that the technology Qtum presents asserts itself in the eyes of whom has the technological background to understand its novelty, if you don't feel this to be the case, we would advise to abstain from participating in the sale.

We’re confident about the Crowdsale. We have an amazing team of Angel Backers, some of whom will be helping a lot over the next few months. We will be working with multiple industry experts, partners, and PwC to shape the direction of the project right away. If there are unsold Qtum tokens after 30 days, they will be sold to institutions. Our team wants smart money, and we will not allow the project to be fueled by cheap attempts to increase the price of our tokens.

With this said, we look forward to the 16th and the following years.
The Qtum Team


Ethereum is a scam too

their ico price is 1BTC=2000ETH  as they promised Ethereum will be the first smart contract platform.
right now.. 2000ETH=40BTC, BTC price is 2 times higher too..


Qtum ico price is 1BTC=3800Qtum as they promise Qtum will be the first POS Smart Contract platform and compatible with Bitcoin!

right now.. people who still hold ETH already made 60-70 times profit..

i am  confident i can make at least 5 times profit  even it's a scam..

JUST A reminder.. BTC is a SCAM too..



Amazing how Qtum declares that it's not a get rich scheme, but others embracing the venture see it as nothing else but, with no regards as to what Qtum brings new to the table.
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A Message From The Team:

As we near the March 16th opening of the Qtum Crowdsale, we’d like to take a moment and discuss what to expect over the coming period. First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market. On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.

The nature of this industry is risky, it’s unregulated, and requires an enormous amount of knowledge in order to make meaningful purchasing decisions. The Qtum platform was never presented as a “get rich quick” scheme. Qtum's development plan spans over multiple years and adheres to a detailed roadmap and budget. If you have not read the whitepapers, or don’t understand the risks involved in this industry - do not participate. There are, as with every project of this kind, factors beyond our control at play; from government regulations, to Bitcoin price volatility, or other unknowns.

As many of you may have noticed, we have been managing expectations since we announced Qtum to the Western market in December. We have not made any attempt to sell hype, we didn’t even release details until right before the Crowdsale, simply because we didn’t want to undermine our core technological product with hysteria. We are positive that the technology Qtum presents asserts itself in the eyes of whom has the technological background to understand its novelty, if you don't feel this to be the case, we would advise to abstain from participating in the sale.

We’re confident about the Crowdsale. We have an amazing team of Angel Backers, some of whom will be helping a lot over the next few months. We will be working with multiple industry experts, partners, and PwC to shape the direction of the project right away. If there are unsold Qtum tokens after 30 days, they will be sold to institutions. Our team wants smart money, and we will not allow the project to be fueled by cheap attempts to increase the price of our tokens.

With this said, we look forward to the 16th and the following years.
The Qtum Team


Ethereum is a scam too

their ico price is 1BTC=2000ETH  as they promised Ethereum will be the first smart contract platform.
right now.. 2000ETH=40BTC, BTC price is 2 times higher too..


Qtum ico price is 1BTC=3800Qtum as they promise Qtum will be the first POS Smart Contract platform and compatible with Bitcoin!

right now.. people who still hold ETH already made 60-70 times profit..

i am  confident i can make at least 5 times profit  even it's a scam..

JUST A reminder.. BTC is a SCAM too..






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The trolls overseer is back! too bad you can't invest glebby, i know you saved all your troll pay just for that  Grin



So true! I'm in the same boat as Jordan Earls who lives in Cleveland, Ohio, a state in the United States whose citizens are forbidden to partake in Qtum's ICO where 20% of all funding go towards the devs of Qtum, Jordan being the Lead Dev. Looks like I'll be paying for the bamboo worms for bait on our fishing expedition.

PS: Don't tell theymos that I have a new fishing bud with my heart set on us hitting the spawning bass in the Chagrin River.
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The trolls overseer is back! too bad you can't invest glebby, i know you saved all your troll pay just for that  Grin
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the fact that the team keeps posting here but ignores everyones questions is by itself explanatory of what they intend. scam allover the place. I just saw an elephant entering the kitchen while posting this

I wouldn't call it "SCAM"...   impressive team behind this project. They just seem to be more (if not only) focused on Chinese market and community. I still didn't 100% got what is the reason behind that strange strategy though Huh

It's like the founder of Bitland using all its marketing money to inform US citizens that he's only accepting moneys from residences of Antarctica to fund Bitland.



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FEBRUARY 14, 2011, 3:03 AM

…and your point is??? IF foopile is putting out ReviewaPenny, I guess I’d say they are advertising, hardly a crime. Not the first to say they are the best. What could be worse than the fake news articles used by some of the larger well-known auctions? foopile used to be slow shipping, don’t know right now, I haven’t bid there recently. Besides that, I’d give them A+. I think they are one of the most honest sites, bids are very reasonable, the site is user friendly and I’ ve never seen or even heard of timer issues. I only have one questions, is SwipeAuctions kin to or part of Swipebids because it sure looks like it. If so, then the only crime I see hear is giving SwipeAuctions B+.

Paul Vernon owned both Foopile and ReviewaPenny. Paul Vernon's now in China after he ripped off Cryptsy's investors.

Revisiting the following:

On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.

Two questions come to mind:

1. Since when did it become illegal to invest in a non-profit entity registered in Singapore? If I remember my Maps 101 class lessons, Singapore is not in China. Correct me if I'm wong. Also, correct me if I'm wong in stating that Qtum's main reason for having it's charter in Singapore was so that it didn't have to contend with Chinese regulators, but now is seems we've come full circle in that US citizens are excluded from participating unless, that is, you follow the advice offered up by principals and devs of Qtum on exactly how to circumnavigate the KYC guidelines. Translated: We at Qtum aren't doing anything illegal, but we'll take the time to show you how to take advantage of our ICO via doing something illegal.

2. When did the paradigm shift to being acceptable to solicit investments from investors totalling $10M ... strike that, now $15M (also read a $30M figure in re Qtum) for a non-profit entity regardless where based in hopes of earning an ROI off said investments? I don't think the likes of a Bob and Alice Smith can sell a million dollars worth of shares promising an ROI for their non-profit Food Bank endeavor designed to feed masses of people in some region of the world. Again, correct me if I'm wong. Translated: Nobody invests in a non-profit for an ROI because ... wait for it ... there's no profit.

Qtum has yet to address how they're able to amass $10M $15M in revenue when their Singapore non-profit charter specifically states that they're ONLY able to garner $5M max over the lifetime of their charter. One more time, correct me if I'm wong, but if I remember correctly from my Math 101 class lessons, $15M is morer biggerer than $5M.

Bruno (Chinese name: Luŏ Xióng; 裸熊)



One more thought and I'm done for the day:

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First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market.

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/qtum.org



Correct me if I'm wong, but I don't see any Asian countries on the list above, including CHINA, albeit I will admit that all the countries not the US are east of the US if you read from left to right.

Further ...



Qtum gets most of its traffic from BitcoinTalk, which is pretty amazing considering that there's no Chinese translation thread for Qtum on this forum if spite of Qtum being on record in stating that they have a greater following in the Eastern market than us yokels here in the Western market. Again, correct me if I'm wong.

Bruno (Chinese name: Luŏ Xióng; 裸熊)
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the fact that the team keeps posting here but ignores everyones questions is by itself explanatory of what they intend. scam allover the place. I just saw an elephant entering the kitchen while posting this

I wouldn't call it "SCAM"...   impressive team behind this project. They just seem to be more (if not only) focused on Chinese market and community. I still didn't 100% got what is the reason behind that strange strategy though Huh
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So they are not hsoting the crowdsale on their website as an option?
Bull crap!
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the fact that the team keeps posting here but ignores everyones questions is by itself explanatory of what they intend. scam allover the place. I just saw an elephant entering the kitchen while posting this


Are US citizens allowed to enjoy the elephant, and are there going to be salted bamboo worms with soy served as horderves prior to the said entrée?

Bruno (Chinese name: Luŏ Xióng; 裸熊)
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the fact that the team keeps posting here but ignores everyones questions is by itself explanatory of what they intend. scam allover the place. I just saw an elephant entering the kitchen while posting this
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its crypto, make money ride the wave. look how scammy eth was and is but its still high and liquid/ who cares

I've got some bad news for you, Sunshine! If you're in the US, you won't be able to participate in Qtum's ICO due to the law.


On ground of regulatory requirements,
our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating
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The only thing that has me perplexed is why Jordan Earls is working on this project as a dev for free, given that 20% of the moneys amassed during the ICO go toward the devs, any of which who are located in the US would be forbidden to legally get a share, thus more money for ALL the non-US devs.

I'm sure that Jordan Earls has penned something somewhere stating that as a US citizen he won't be able to accept any moneys for his involvement with Qtum due to US regulations explicitly expressed by Qtum's legal team relayed by Team Qtum.



Bruno (Chinese name: Luŏ Xióng; 裸熊)
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live the dream but don't live the dream

I've reported a particular user (don't worry they'll chime in soon) for repeatedly posting 2 posts at a time, over 5 times now. Nothing I can tell has happened other than that the mod who handles it has found my complaint "accurate". Is this rule enforced or not?

such as Young Children Who Lose argued and cried, and report to the father / mother to get help  Grin Grin Grin
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Fraud Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You did it now! You're officially on Qtum's shit list. Wanna know how they handle such discontent? This:

I've reported a particular user (don't worry they'll chime in soon) for repeatedly posting 2 posts at a time, over 5 times now. Nothing I can tell has happened other than that the mod who handles it has found my complaint "accurate". Is this rule enforced or not?



PS: The recent fishing trip with theymos up in WS proved fruitful, with he not only catching the most fish, but also the largest - a 54" muskie.
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A Message From The Team:

As we near the March 16th opening of the Qtum Crowdsale, we’d like to take a moment and discuss what to expect over the coming period. First and foremost, this is a global initiative, but we anticipate most of the token sales to come from the Eastern market. On ground of regulatory requirements, our legal terms excludes US citizen from participating.

The nature of this industry is risky, it’s unregulated, and requires an enormous amount of knowledge in order to make meaningful purchasing decisions. The Qtum platform was never presented as a “get rich quick” scheme. Qtum's development plan spans over multiple years and adheres to a detailed roadmap and budget. If you have not read the whitepapers, or don’t understand the risks involved in this industry - do not participate. There are, as with every project of this kind, factors beyond our control at play; from government regulations, to Bitcoin price volatility, or other unknowns.

As many of you may have noticed, we have been managing expectations since we announced Qtum to the Western market in December. We have not made any attempt to sell hype, we didn’t even release details until right before the Crowdsale, simply because we didn’t want to undermine our core technological product with hysteria. We are positive that the technology Qtum presents asserts itself in the eyes of whom has the technological background to understand its novelty, if you don't feel this to be the case, we would advise to abstain from participating in the sale.

We’re confident about the Crowdsale. We have an amazing team of Angel Backers, some of whom will be helping a lot over the next few months. We will be working with multiple industry experts, partners, and PwC to shape the direction of the project right away. If there are unsold Qtum tokens after 30 days, they will be sold to institutions. Our team wants smart money, and we will not allow the project to be fueled by cheap attempts to increase the price of our tokens.

With this said, we look forward to the 16th and the following years.
The Qtum Team

Isn't is it strange that all ICO investors will be subject to strict KYC and WHILE the legal Chinese identity of founder Patrick Dai/Steven Dai/Johnson Dai/帅初/戴旭康/Shuai Chu is still remains unclear.

What is Mr. Dai's real Chinese name?




An apprentice of the Grammar Patrol (GP) haz correctedeth thou's prose. The GP only wants smart penners populating the Internet and won't allow cheap attempts by those tryin' to increase the grammatical-error count with their token .

and->while, but prior to posting/proofreading I opted to make a couple other corrections - me's such a funny guy>
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