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Having not a Qtum website available for investing says it all, I'm not going to invest
through some hardly known Chinese exchanges. If you want to look respectable then
you need to provide a better form of investing. I think I'll wait until the release and
when then the dust settles then decide whether to invest or not.

'because of legal restrictions' sounds like a cope out.

Your comments?



yunbi is good. do not worry.

get your account ready at yunbi.com

hero member
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Devs, Does the fact that Yunbi has restricted Bitcoin withdrawals effective Today, and with no end date, have an impact on whether you will still use that exchange?

Address the following as well, for you keep skipping over it:

September 9, 2016: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-based-identity-project-uport-wins-the-blockchain-competition/

Quote
“Qtum will become the first UTXO model based smart contract platform. Different from Rootstock, Qtum is using the Incentive proof of stake as the consensus protocol,also Qtum support EVM. We also divide the blockchain contract to Smart Contract and Master Contract. Through real world data feeds, you can build the Master Contract on QtumChain. We also offer identity on Qtum Blockchain. Qtum add value both to Bitcoin ecosystem and Ethereum ecosystem.”

They have signed a strategic partnership with PwC China, and recently signed a service contract with the world’s largest freight company for the use of VeChain, another project by the team, to better manage supply chains by adding blockchain capabilities to minimize fraud and theft.

February 22, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel before it gets deleted: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



February 23, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



That's means somebody was in PwC's office on a Sunday morning at ~9:43 AM China/Singapore time to process a payment of ~$13,623 USD worth of bitcoins according to Brett. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89b3e53a83d16d132200b96892dcf98c77ad3506866ff4e63a8105eb6337bc4f



It also means that somebody was in PwC's office at 2-3 AM (again, local time) to process the following bitcoin payments. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d38da05c72761402



But the bigger question is who was at PwC's office on January 2, 2017, at ~1:28 AM (again, local time) to process the following 500 BTC valued at over $491K at the time of the transaction? AND to who, since Qtum is a non-profit and ICO investors have a right to know according to the law in Singapore where their charter is registered?

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a



it seems they raised more than 1000BTC from angel investors and sell 500BTC for cash to pay people's salary, what's wrong with this...?  Cry
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Having not a Qtum website available for investing says it all, I'm not going to invest
through some hardly known Chinese exchanges. If you want to look respectable then
you need to provide a better form of investing. I think I'll wait until the release and
when then the dust settles then decide whether to invest or not.

'because of legal restrictions' sounds like a cope out.

Your comments?

legendary
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So when will be the ICO starting?

So when are we going know where ~$491K went to?



sounds interesting. who of them is the CEO of that auditing firm? Smiley
vip
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Qtum's Angel Backers: Team Qtum, just checking in to learn the latest and making sure that our collective one million dollar investment is wisely being spent.

Team Qtum: VVV



Qtum's Angel Backers: Excellent! Excellent! Excellent! Can't wait till we ROI $20M, but keep telling the moronic crypto community that it's only $10M. AND, good job on Misinformation Much! Try to get a payment address from cocksuckeroverflow so that we can anonymously send him some well-deservedly-earned coinage.



Qtum's Angel Backers: VVV

vip
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From the desk of Misinformation Much?:



February 22, 2017: Via Slack, Brett Fincaryk, handling PR for Qtum, announces that Qtum is not a scam because PwC handles ALL the accounting funds, and if such were not the case, then such wouldn't be penned because that would open up a law suit against Qtum if they declared PwC was their auditing firm but wasn't the case. VVV



January 11, 2017: Patrick Dai links to an article just published [at the time] on Coin Desk: VVV



Here's a snippet gleaned from the article: http://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-angels-invest-1-million-bitcoin-ethereum-hybrid-qtum/ VVV

Press Update

BitcoinMagazine.com publishes details about PricewaterhouseCooper's involvement with the Qtum project.



Here's a snippet gleaned from the article: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/qtum-blockchain-gains-support-pwc-releases-whitepaper/ VVV

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CY Cheung, Fintech and Cybersecurity Partner of PwC China stated: "PwC sees enormous potential for blockchain to revolutionize business practices as we know them, and the firm has made great efforts in developing strategic and technical capabilities to adapt existing products and services for the new technology. We are excited to get involved in the era of innovation and help companies capture the opportunities and benefits brought by the new technology. Working with the Qtum Foundation aligns with our goal."

February 22, 2017: In the following, Brett Fincaryk proclaimed that the PwC info was deleted from Qtum's blog so to official release the info, supposedly yesterday with the above. VVV



^^^ The blog post that Brett alludes to and was linked to Qtum's blog consisted of the following in its entirety: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/our-recent-blockchain-project-qtum-chun-yin-cy-cheung VVV

February 22, 2017: Our recent involvement in Qtum (a Blockchain project) https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/our-recent-blockchain-project-qtum-chun-yin-cy-cheung VVV

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I went to attend a meetup of a Blockchain project called "Qtum", which our team is involved in the project management and design of governance structure.  Qtum is still in its testing stage but it is a very meaningful project, as Qtum is target to be the first ever Blockchain platform that can link up Bitcoin and Ethereum, the most mature and popular Blockchain systems, and provide innovative tools which help the wider public to develop and use Blockchain applications in an easy manner (e.g., readibility of programs).

Between September 2016, and February 2017, Chun Yin (CY) Cheung and Team Qtum on myriad occasions through press releases (eventually spawning organic news), respective blog postings, forum posts, social media postings, etc., adamantly expressed that PwC is onboard the Qtum project, so why did Brett Fincaryk deemed it prudent to delete Qtum's post regarding what's already public knowledge, with even Qtum's investors formally declaring that such is 100% the case. Said truisms were espoused by PwC, Qtum, and Qtum's Angel Backers to engrain trust in the Qtum project, yet there's misinformation abound in re this one aspect, let alone other accusations over and beyond the Steven Dai/Patrick Dai connection that Team Qtum has failed to address to this very day, some aspects inquired months ago. Team Qtum puts more efforts in calling out any discontent as FUD advanced by paid trolls et al., of which I, for one, am not. It blows Qtum's fuckin mind that some Bitcoiner - ME - dedicated tremendous amount of time researching Qtum sans receiving one satoshi in compensation.

Bruno
vip
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Devs, Does the fact that Yunbi has restricted Bitcoin withdrawals effective Today, and with no end date, have an impact on whether you will still use that exchange?

Address the following as well, for you keep skipping over it:

September 9, 2016: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-based-identity-project-uport-wins-the-blockchain-competition/

Quote
“Qtum will become the first UTXO model based smart contract platform. Different from Rootstock, Qtum is using the Incentive proof of stake as the consensus protocol,also Qtum support EVM. We also divide the blockchain contract to Smart Contract and Master Contract. Through real world data feeds, you can build the Master Contract on QtumChain. We also offer identity on Qtum Blockchain. Qtum add value both to Bitcoin ecosystem and Ethereum ecosystem.”

They have signed a strategic partnership with PwC China, and recently signed a service contract with the world’s largest freight company for the use of VeChain, another project by the team, to better manage supply chains by adding blockchain capabilities to minimize fraud and theft.

February 22, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel before it gets deleted: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



February 23, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



That's means somebody was in PwC's office on a Sunday morning at ~9:43 AM China/Singapore time to process a payment of ~$13,623 USD worth of bitcoins according to Brett. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89b3e53a83d16d132200b96892dcf98c77ad3506866ff4e63a8105eb6337bc4f



It also means that somebody was in PwC's office at 2-3 AM (again, local time) to process the following bitcoin payments. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d38da05c72761402



But the bigger question is who was at PwC's office on January 2, 2017, at ~1:28 AM (again, local time) to process the following 500 BTC valued at over $491K at the time of the transaction? AND to who, since Qtum is a non-profit and ICO investors have a right to know according to the law in Singapore where their charter is registered?

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a

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Devs, Does the fact that Yunbi has restricted Bitcoin withdrawals effective Today, and with no end date, have an impact on whether you will still use that exchange?
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Personally, being based in the United States, I would think that Allcoin would make the most sense.  Its parent company is company based out of Canada, though I am not clear if the English page is a translation from Chinese or not. *Edit: Allcoin does not accept US customers* (which is a bit concerning, because translations are inherently problematic).  I am a little disappointed with the developers in ONLY using the exchanges listed.  Being in the United States, I am hesitant to invest in Chinese exchanges due to the potential for tight capital controls by the Chinese government, and their ability to restrict withdrawal.  In addition, AML and know-your-customer regulations generally do not require third party exchanges, unless these exchanges are regulated as banks or similar financial entities, which I doubt.  The developers could very easily require certain identifying information and be able to provide the tokens themselves.  

I don't know if this will stop me completely, but it certainly is worrisome.
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https://yunbi.com/


https://www.qtum.org/en/blog/qtum-crowdsale-update-timeline

We are so excited to announce that Qtum crowdsale will start at 12PM GMT, March 16th 2017 and end at 12PM GMT, April 15th 2017 (30 days). Both BTC and ETH will be accepted. Other terms and details including pricing and discounts will be announced on March 9th.

In addition, due to the legal compliance consideration*, we have decided that Qtum crowdsale will be available on the following exchanges. Please note the list of exchanges is not final, we may modify it before Qtum Crowdsale start date.

Bizhongchou (bizhongchou.com)
Yunbi (yunbi.com)
ICOAGE (icoage.com)
Allcoin (allcoin.com)
ICO365 (ico365.com)
*In order to fully comply with Singapore’s anti-money laundering and counter-terrorism financing laws and regulations, the Qtum Foundation will practice ‘know your customer’ exercise in the Qtum crowdsale. Hence, we decide not to use Qtum official crowdsale website although it is ready to launch.


So https://yunbi.com/ is the best choice?

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Crowdsale Update:



The Qtum Crowdsale will commence in 8 days, please see:  https://qtum.org/en/crowdsale

Pricing, discounts, and terms will be announced shortly






thank you for the updates about crowdsale.. waiting for this now!
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Press Update

BitcoinMagazine.com publishes details about PricewaterhouseCooper's involvement with the Qtum project.




Let's play a game I call Juxtapose. Today's players are Team Qtum and Qtum's Brett Fincaryk, respectively:

September 9, 2016: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-based-identity-project-uport-wins-the-blockchain-competition/

Quote
“Qtum will become the first UTXO model based smart contract platform. Different from Rootstock, Qtum is using the Incentive proof of stake as the consensus protocol,also Qtum support EVM. We also divide the blockchain contract to Smart Contract and Master Contract. Through real world data feeds, you can build the Master Contract on QtumChain. We also offer identity on Qtum Blockchain. Qtum add value both to Bitcoin ecosystem and Ethereum ecosystem.”

They have signed a strategic partnership with PwC China, and recently signed a service contract with the world’s largest freight company for the use of VeChain, another project by the team, to better manage supply chains by adding blockchain capabilities to minimize fraud and theft.

February 22, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel before it gets deleted: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



So, according to Brett, Qtum received the million dollars from Angel Backers prior to September 22, 2016, when PwC was already onboard the project, with Qtum not registering their non-profit charter till November 28, 2016, in Singapore, because astute investors don't need to see no stinkin' charter prior to investing a million bucks after vetting venerable dudes like Patrick Dai. Brett has to be telling the truth because he handles all the PM for Qtum, making sure that he doesn't speaketh outta line.

According to Team Qtum, PwC was just brought onboard during the past 48 hours.

Isn't Juxtapose a fun game?

why is it matter? how old are you Gleb?
do you have any logic? or you are just a professional troll man?
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Crowdsale Update:



The Qtum Crowdsale will commence in 8 days, please see:  https://qtum.org/en/crowdsale

Pricing, discounts, and terms will be announced shortly





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So when will be the ICO starting?

I think qtum dev is still wait in response market
if market or bitcointalk member still good response, positive response qtum can ico selling and still run project, but if negetive response i think project is end

So this project will start or not?

Of course it will!
vip
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September 9, 2016: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-based-identity-project-uport-wins-the-blockchain-competition/

Quote
“Qtum will become the first UTXO model based smart contract platform. Different from Rootstock, Qtum is using the Incentive proof of stake as the consensus protocol,also Qtum support EVM. We also divide the blockchain contract to Smart Contract and Master Contract. Through real world data feeds, you can build the Master Contract on QtumChain. We also offer identity on Qtum Blockchain. Qtum add value both to Bitcoin ecosystem and Ethereum ecosystem.”

They have signed a strategic partnership with PwC China, and recently signed a service contract with the world’s largest freight company for the use of VeChain, another project by the team, to better manage supply chains by adding blockchain capabilities to minimize fraud and theft.

February 22, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel before it gets deleted: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



February 23, 2017: Qtum's Slack channel: https://qtumnexus.slack.com/archives/general/p1487836173003937



That's means somebody was in PwC's office on a Sunday morning at ~9:43 AM China/Singapore time to process a payment of ~$13,623 USD worth of bitcoins according to Brett. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89b3e53a83d16d132200b96892dcf98c77ad3506866ff4e63a8105eb6337bc4f



It also means that somebody was in PwC's office at 2-3 AM (again, local time) to process the following bitcoin payments. VVV

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d38da05c72761402



But the bigger question is who was at PwC's office on January 2, 2017, at ~1:28 AM (again, local time) to process the following 500 BTC valued at over $491K at the time of the transaction? AND to who, since Qtum is a non-profit and ICO investors have a right to know according to the law in Singapore where their charter is registered?

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/51f9c3a755299425a38e119c068f3997f08fe3c60caab53cfbbea7b9dfd8c66a



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So when will be the ICO starting?

I think qtum dev is still wait in response market
if market or bitcointalk member still good response, positive response qtum can ico selling and still run project, but if negetive response i think project is end

So this project will start or not?
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
So when will be the ICO starting?

I think qtum dev is still wait in response market
if market or bitcointalk member still good response, positive response qtum can ico selling and still run project, but if negetive response i think project is end
vip
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Merit: 1145
So when will be the ICO starting?

So when are we going know where ~$491K went to?

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