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Market bittrex is disable   ICO time is over ?

I think it's maybe the other way around. I don't want to say you're wrong and that it's easy right now to start a project with a CFC. Maybe it was easier in 2014. But on the other hand I believe that Crypto is at the very beginning and growing. It's a time of great innovations but also a time of Fraud and failures.

Compared with what I believe will be the future, and I'm convinced that Crypto will be a big movement in the future and a gamechanger in many aspects (financial, social networking, the internet as a whole), this project isn't too late. Maybe it's too early. For me it seems a little bit paradox, that "the Cryptocommunity" is often betting on projects that are already dead, even if they get pumped right now. Too many believe they can make a little profit out of a hype, hoping they'll be out before the pump-groups dump... Crypto would be perfect if Investors would focus on projects they really believe in, focus on innovation and longterm. The little profit some maybe make with Crap is nothing compared with the profit we could make with legit and innovative projects. That's just my point of view, but I'm pretty sure the future will show that I'm right about the coming dynamics. And that's why I'm investing in projects I see innovation and longterm-qualities. And this is one of those projects I'm sure to see that because it's not just about a payment-system. It's also about social-network and much more.


I'm watching the "Neucoin-Story" and in my eyes it absolutely has no chance. Besides the fact that they still have nothing to show but marketing, the distribution is a joke. 3% of all coins to the community, 80% to "non-profit-organizations" and the rest to some buddies...  And non-profit in Crypto? Really? ;-)



As I said: I also think it needs more PR, more attention and a growing dynamic. But it's also about the Crypto-Community itself because that dynamic would start instantly if people would be more interested in innovation and focused on longterm-qualities and the big profit, instead of invest like gamblers playing roulette. My personal goal is to look back in some years, being proud that I made money out of investing early in innovations. And this is one of those projects I believe to see it all.


Yes, could be right. That's why I'm constantly repeating that people should do some research, reading the Ann, thinking about it, following what they'll show, reading Syntaks Posts to recognize that this isn't "just" legit. They obviously have a very skilled team etc. And everybody who does that will understand that this project also includes very interesting economical aspects. It can grow out of itself if it's used. And therefore it's a combination of Crypto and social network... it has a lot of potential to grow fast. That's the reason why I say it's maybe too early, not to late. The future of Crypto will be a combination of social network, payment etc. Innovation that will be a base for innovations. And it's a counterpart to some destructive dynamics we see in all countries around the world: increasingly censorship... I'm not just speaking about China. We see that in the middle east, Russia, but also in the USA and Europe. Something like this will be wanted and needed and used. That's why I really would like to see that they can start it. 
 

With the right marketing and demonstration of skill the dev here could get his ico sold imo.

dev has hard work ahead, as it is a project of ICO coin. It does not necessarily mean that by this he fails, so it should not be assumed in advance. First let's give him a chance.
So not many doing anything at all for crypto, most of them are here only for profits - Let us respect his work.

Cool good to hear. Hopefully its enough to get the ico sold.

Thanks a lot for the vote of confidence folks.  We're working really hard to bring something into this environment that can hopefully do a substantial amount of good.

This coin looks like it could be a good thing. 800 btc will be a hard sell these days.

I was against this coin at the start but the development team is solid and dynamically changing the coin to suit the community. I suggest you give the team a chance and see where it goes.
Developers. Get the crowd funding back up and keep pushing on. Good Luck.

PLEASE STOP GIVE THESE DEVS A CHANCE
you are being a idiot ARE YOU JEALOUS  ;)they have not released anything so wait before you judge
dumbass 

We've changed the CFC start date to next Friday so that we can put out a demo for everyone to see prior to CFC launch and answer any other questions people have to help clear the air. Details on this can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12118574. I also posted this notice at the very top of the OP.

Why does bittrex market show disabled? or is it just me?

good luck this encourage me to put some more BTC in it

this is karma. very few people want to buy it 

http://coverize.me/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/go-away.jpg

The methods we're using to accomplish everything we've discussed (and other details that we haven't yet) are pretty outside-of-the-box in approach and quite a bit of time and research was invested beforehand.  There may be some who attempt to emulate it but if it's not done properly with as much care and consideration as it requires - it'll be just another bad attempt at a quick cash grab and easy to spot.  This isn't something that came out of thin air, was forked and searched/replaced.  We're using a new database as well.  Regarding graphics, I can understand from a marketing point perhaps your view - but the image wasn't intended to be "web 2.0"-ish.  That doesn't stand to say you're wrong about the imagery - it's your opinion and a few others have expressed it as well.  With that said however, we are taking this time to take into consideration other perspectives and re-evaluate areas in which improvements can be made.  The code continues on of course, but we're not turning a blind eye to everything else either.  I think once the demo is live folks might have a better understanding and overall better opinion of what's being done here - at least one can hope.  We do take everything into consideration, and everyone's opinion matters.  Thank you very much for the insight.  There are quite a few details that will be released with the demo only and that might clear a few concerns up and actually open up some new eyes as to the benefit of our system.  We'll definitely be keeping everyone updated.

     Best regards,

syntaks

agreed but afraid that josh also did venture capitalization and where that project led to. to run such a huge marketing campaign will prolong launch of this project and im afraid might some other group will grab this idea and come up with look alike thing. honestly speaking i didnt get chance to read all those long posts and the radio stream yet but hopefully the DEV team will take this part into consideration. nevertheless a little investment on a graphic designer and online marketeer could lead to promote this initiative in far better way
not to forget LARGE MAJORITY is likely to invest in it for profit in the short term 

tempus:

I agree mostly with what you said. I do however think that part of the problem which you have not identified is the demographic with which 'CFC' are targeted at. Clearly, the crypto space is largely full of people who entered due to greed. The days of raising thousands of bitcoins through crowdfunds is mostly over. Neucoin is a little exception and despite it being 'just another' coin. They have put together a much better marketing campaign (newsbtc, cointelegraph adverts everywhere) as well as some organised content for people to do their own reading. Factom had given dozens of lectures as well as ran QA, AMA's etc. for months and months running up to their crowdsale, and selling 2-3 thousand bitcoins was probably justified.

R3D on the other hand, have a very feature packed announcement thread, but little to no prior community interaction, or really any material at all. That is not to say I do not believe their ability to produce, but its just the literal comparison between projects that are asking for the same order of magnitude funding seems to show that R3D team still have a-lot of work ahead of them to convince people to invest into their project.

I would suggest that some Seed funding, and venture capital might be a better way to approach this crowdfund. The larger majority of people who will likely invest to this are only hoping to sell for profit in the short term and will probably fail to see the bigger picture like larger investors would.

That's great! Hoped that you guys would do something like that and agree with what you describe. In my eyes there were/are mainly these issues:

1. In the beginning a lack of trust in the R3D-Team. (I think that problem is solved)
2. That some User are against the CFC is partly linked to 1., but I believe that such reactions often are just impulsive and like "I don't want them to see succeed."... a kind of jealousy. It makes sense to ask for arguments. ;-) Impulsive FUD is very fragile.

The thing about 1 and 2 is, that it costs some time to get over it. And that time was missing for:

3. The idea itself, because it's complex and not too easy to understand.  Investors have to think about it to realize the potential.
4. The tech...  and to raise trust, not just in your good intentions, but also trust in your abilities.

5. One big point is a lack of attention in general. This project needs more support from everybody who would like to see it realized to make it known. I think, that's one of the most important points for the CFC.


And as I said before... there is one thought that is really interesting about this project: The question "Would it be used now if it would already exist?" is "yes" in my eyes. And there are not so many projects that can say that. And everybody who sees that like I do, just will have to answer these two questions:

1. Is the R3D-Team honest? Do they have good intentions?
2. Do they have the skills to realize it?

And that are the main questions in every project. With or without CFC nobody should buy into a Coin if he would (or should) answer just one or the other or even both questions with "no". But also: If the answers to those questions are "yes" a CFC has great advantages - for the own investment.

It's beyond that in my eyes: I would have doubts if there wouldn't be a CFC, because it's a simple fact that fulltime-development and PR etc. needs money. What's more honest: A team that openly says that it needs money to build something great or a team with hidden intentions, controlling the price and manipulating Investors for the own profit? The answer should be obvious. Everybody who maybe complains that they don't change the CFC-price should think about that. In my eyes that's more a proof of honesty and rational thinking than the opposite.


With that being said and out of my personal view: The one and only problem I still see is that it needs more attention but I'm optimistic that there will be a change. And everybody who agrees with what I said should help to make it known. The best professional marketing wouldn't lead to success if it wouldn't lead to a growing dynamic. And a growing dynamic out of an active community would be great marketing. A combination of both would be it.

(Btw: A simple first step... follow and retweet: https://twitter.com/getr3d )

I watched and watch several projects and some of them are legit, some are/were Scams. And there is a really weird imbalance if it comes to the communities: The Scams often have a very active Community, banging the drum without knowing that they are the sheeps, making PR for the butcher. Paycoin was a "great" example for that, or Crave and several others... some of them currently. As if the idiots are the most loyal.
But how smart is it to invest in a project with a great team and an innovative idea with great potential but not to support it?

I don't say that anybody have to see all this like I do. I'm even the opinion, if somebody would like to spread some FUD... do it. I doubt that the team would like to see much FUD but I'm convinced that controversy is one strategy to raise attention and it can be an opportunity to convince people if it's handled smart. The same with all real concerns people may have. It's an opportunity to give answers, not just to the guy who posts about his doubts, but also to all those who are just watching. But really effective it's just if there is an active and supportive community and not just waiting for the CM or the Devs to react on all that.



So... it wasn't the plan to write a book, but thanks for reading. ;-)

It`s a little strange to do that but ok, i will be watching this one, your development crew is very good just try to do right this time.

ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING BITTREX CFC

Over the course of the past week, the collective has had the benefit of speaking with a number of venture capitalists, business marketing folks, and the community in general. We've been fortunate enough that they've given us some really amazing insight and direction as well as their general opinions on what we should be doing, what we haven't done and what can be done to not only assist in sending r3d in a successful direction but ensure that it stays on that track. With this in mind and after much discussion, with the help of Bill, Richie, and the rest of Bittrex staff, we've decided to restart the CFC on August 21, 2015 where the market will open for buys at 09:00 AM PDT (12:00 NOON EST) and run until September 4, 2015 (09:00 AM PDT) 12:00 NOON EST.

Between now and then we'll be working with our new associates as well as the community to do a few things:

   1. Make better use of the resources at our disposal to make a wider range of audience aware of r3d
   2. Provide a complete demo along with live use cases showcasing exactly what r3d is capable of and the potential of it
   3. Reaching out to other investors with solid data supporting our projected use, growth, expenses and needs.

If you haven't already listened to the interview we participated in over at SuperNET radio, we think many of the questions or areas of confusion might become clearer. The link to listen is: https://soundcloud.com/supernetradio/r3d

After the CFC went live and we spoke with interested members of the community, we realized that we had approached this as a group of developers and not businessmen - because we aren't businessmen. Once our mistakes were pointed out to us and explained that our shortcomings in that area would ultimately hold r3d back, we made no mistake in taking the appropriate actions in effort to turn the current course around and resolve any outstanding issues.

With that being said, the current price point and supply offered will remain the same. The only details changing are start and end times of the CFC. In the coming week you'll be sure to see r3d mentioned quite a bit more, as well as development updates and following that the aforementioned demo. We're really looking forward to providing the community and world with something great and feel incredibly fortunate to have the people that are supporting us in our corner and believing in what we're doing.

For those of you who have already purchased R3D through the current CFC at bittrex, please keep a lookout for a buy wall that should go up within the next few days. Again, nothing is being cancelled here, we're only restarting our CFC so that we have more time to do a bit more work necessary on PR, promotion, marketing, and a demo for everyone.

If anyone has any questions, we're all here every day and we're more than willing to answer them for you.

Sincerely,

The r3d collective

listen to radio interview still never said what you will do if 800btc not reached
you said you still release so do i get more coins coz i bought in
could you tell us what you will do in the next few days if not reached 800btc please

you see if its not a trade coin then why buy 500k worth why not just buy 5000 and use
because the way you make on this coin is by posting ads stories and so on so why buy 500k just to give away

why not some sort of burn process where the coin can become more rare and the price will go up then because be more in demand
as time goes on you end up with 100 million coin instead of 800 million always being there
just a thought
 BUT I DO TRUST YOU NOW 95%
plus could you say how you will sort the funds in case one off you does a runner with all the money you never know when money concerned