Topic: [ANN] Ravencoin [RVN] PoW GPU Mining | Asset Transfer Blockchain (Updated ANN) - page 188. (Read 1170731 times)

The owner of the wallet owns the coins.  BigZim knows which wallets were shorted.  Who owns the private key is irrelevant.  This is insanity. 

Sorry but this is all total f-ing nonsense.  You don’t have to send a signed message to a pool in order to “unfreeze” coins. When the coinbase is paid to the pool, the pool distributes it according to miner shares once the block has matured.  3i has no stats so you can not determine from the website which blocks matured.  It smells like a classic exit scam. If it isn’t then why are people here saying they were not paid out?  This BigZim should come on here and explain himself in plain English.  Until he does he is not to be trusted.  

read my previous message, follow intructions and prove that the coins are yours. Everyone that did that, got all coins from Bigzim.

I agree that he could have been more transparent and correct with the way he handled it, but he has to prove nothing to you, you have to prove you actually own the coins. As long as you can't please refer to my previous message again, it's your responsiblity, not anyone elses.

he responded to everyone that has the correct into to trace your ravencoin. so just messaging him without the correct proof, does nothing.

Again, Ravencoin devs do nothing for you. they write code, the coin is community driven, you want to get something done, YOU do it. Bigzim has 0 affiliation to the project, other then having run a (commercial, NON OFFICIAL) pool for a while.

New startup yiimp based pool for RVN welcome all ex threeeye users. Just launched today.

RVN: egregious.tv:3636

So we must be on discord channel all the time to get info from BigZim, he couldn't put that on website's pool?
People who got paid don't want to listen to people who didn't get paid.

I again confront BigZim to reply to messages and stop avoiding it. If he doesn't have anything to hide then why is he not responding?
This guy is a fraud BigTime. If Ravencoin supports him, then this will NOT look good with stolen coins story on the long run for this project.

I am waiting over a week for that thief to reply. Where is he?

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One of them had 700 and the other almost 200..it was mature balance and i didint receive anything and for some days now is all zero.
Can you help me?

thanks for the productive take on it and explaination. parts in the middle paragraph were actually unclear to me, so all in all it was worth it.

yes i could follow up on this but as said earlier its peanuts really as i moved away from 3i after ~12 hours. im disgrunted as the first statements suggested that the pool would take care of it once the dev is back from holiday and BigZim got time again cause the family drama that occured. this and the lack of communication is just bad style and anoying in principle. would i warn others that there were issues ? yes as there undoubtly were. is it a big thing. no.

Regarding other precautions: yes that pretty much mirrors what im doing too so no surprises there.

in any way thanks for the productive shift of the discussion. cheers from ger.

Right on! All those who claimed to have been ripped off at 3i, they are clueless. If you followed it on Discord, 90% of those who thought the were ripped off have now apologized and realized that they didn't actually lose anything. I got freaked out in the beginning of the payout mishap too. AND, days before the shut down, BigZim asked everyone to stop mining at Threeeye until he could fix the problem. If you stayed, that's on you (even then you still got paid - just the stats were posting wrong, but you got paid your actual shares earned, not what the stats said). I get the confusion, but like Techgtv says, it's on the miner to know what the f@^k they are doing.

You send work shares to the pool, the pool is on the network as 1 "miner." As soon as a block is found, the pool splits up he payment among workers depending on type of share payment  (PPS, PPLNS). a block is every minute so you should have coins every minute. Every x Raven you get paid from the pool . The coins are immature untill the network confirmed the coins, as soon as the coins are mature ( confirmed ) they are send to the payment adress you provided. As soon as the coins are mature, they are yours.

As soon as the coins are mature, they are written to YOUR wallet, thus are transparent en for everyone to see on the blockchain. Sending coins over with a private message attached to it, triggers the network to make the transaction, if you don't have any "mature" coins in your wallet, the transaction gets refused and that's the end of it. All the info is there, you just need to proof if you actually own the coins, or that there was a misinformation on the pool, how much you actually are owned.

i'm really not trying to be a dick here, but i am really harsh on the reality. If you don't have proof it's gonna be on you to take the loss and learn from it. there is no holding hands in crypto, you are responsible for every step of the way, without any failsafes, unless you buil them into your security measurements. There is no bank that will retrieve your money if you make a mistake. i make daily backups of my wallet, i check my mining stability multiple times a day, i have my private keys dogtagged, and i have a hardware wallet. and as soon as i see ANYTHING wrong, i instantly move away from the problem at hand. Don't just sit there and expect it to work out in the end, because that is when you get burned.

I have been stable for the past day and half. No disconnects - in fact none of my miners have "locked up" and shut down the mining software - a problem I have been having last week while mining at other sites. And Virtopia has been hitting blocks. 24 hr pay out is up about 30% over Suprnova - and over the calculated amounts for my hash rates.

explain me how you think the blockchain is involved cause i think one of us doesnt gets it.
especially this part:
" you send RVN coins to another adress, with a private signed message, and let the network decide if you have the coins or not. Since the blockchain is the trustee and not YOU, if the blockchain consensus is that you don't have enough coins ( that you say you do ) in your wallet, then the transaction gets rejected"

i dont send coins. i send work shares.

https://i.imgur.com/3fxulir.png

Cheers! I'm with you on the lottery thing. Since I only have 30MH/s pointed at Raven which is around 100-120RVN a day I've gone onto a smaller pool for the fun and hope.
About the disconnect thing did it happen to you when 3i redirected us?
I was wondering if it was that and you need to point to the pool directly - which I never tried.

What is your Raven wallet id - if you were mining then there is a record. It transparent and we will find it.

I was patient, but I don't think I get paid anymore. So as long as I don't get my payment it doesn't matter how many people say otherwise, BigZim is a liar thief.

this is the thing, you refuse to listen and insist on keeping to just complain and say you didn't get paid, while me and many others give you the tools to prove you should be paid. You refuse to take action for your own coins that you say you are owned. So far i have seen 2-3 complain they didn't get the coin, but the discord if full of people getting EXACTLY the coins they are owned. so i guess the 95% must be wrong.

if you can't prove you are owned those coins, you don't. You are responsible for your own actions and proof against the blockchain, sorry to break it to you, but you are really in the wrong space if you can't handle your own security.

What kind of hardware does he have is this a big farm pointing on Ravencoin. Soon he will need to pay for his cost and he will need to sell his coin.

That seems unlikely to me because this means this one miner gets almost all coins mined on the network. One block per minute * 5000 coins per block = 300.000 coins per hour...

Your stratum difficulty may be too low for your rig. What is your average hashrate? And what is your current stratum difficulty set to?

It was mentioned by Bruce' handle on here and I'm loosely paraphrasing from memory: Ravencoin is a community project - as such, no single entity is in charge of getting it listed, especially if NDA's and other legal contracts are requirement of said exchange. If the community wants to have it listed on a qualifying exchange, they can of course pool the necessary resources.

Anyone, feel free to add to this or correct me if I'm wrong.