[ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now - page 42.

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Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 03:12:06 PM

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I'm curious... "Income / day" calculations... Was that BTC only or BTC and LTC combined?

Both combined. As SFARD announcement in 1st page...

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(Take June 19th price for instance, one SF100 generates 4.2 USD from Bitcoin and 3.8 USD from Litecoin, in total 8 USD per day).

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Quote from: Dexter770221 on June 26, 2015, 03:09:43 PM

Numbers:
Income per day: 8$
Power consumption @wall (what efficiency PSU?): 960W
Power consumption /24h: 23kWh
Cost per kWh (1st calc): 0.08$/kWh
Cost per kWh (2nd calc): 0.1$/kWh
1 day cost (1st calc): 1.84$
1 day cost (2nd calc): 2.3$
Income /day (1st calc): 6.16$
Income /day (2nd calc): 5.7$
Price: 1129$
ROI (1st calc): ~183 days
ROI (2nd calc): ~198 days

All calculations without difficulty (and price ofc) increase taken into consideration....

I'm curious... "Income / day" calculations... Was that BTC only or BTC and LTC combined?

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Numbers:
Income per day: 8$
Power consumption @wall (what efficiency PSU?): 960W
Power consumption /24h: 23kWh
Cost per kWh (1st calc): 0.08$/kWh
Cost per kWh (2nd calc): 0.1$/kWh
1 day cost (1st calc): 1.84$
1 day cost (2nd calc): 2.3$
Income /day (1st calc): 6.16$
Income /day (2nd calc): 5.7$
Price: 1129$
ROI (1st calc): ~183 days
ROI (2nd calc): ~198 days

All calculations without difficulty (and price ofc) increase taken into consideration....

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Quote from: dogie on June 26, 2015, 03:07:45 PM

Quote from: alh on June 26, 2015, 12:17:48 PM

One guy over in the "Group Buy" sub-forum suggested that it would take well over 386 YEARS to break even in terms of the miner cost. That was with the usual fantasy provisions of "free electricity and no difficulty changes".

While I expected a "premium" price, this is more "Extreme Premium" pricing.

Sounds like someone can't count then :s Under those conditions even a U3 would make $18,000 in that time.

I saw that in a sub forum as well. I think they meant to put in a decimal point instead of a comma on the number of days. They also did not state their power costs.

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Quote from: alh on June 26, 2015, 12:17:48 PM

One guy over in the "Group Buy" sub-forum suggested that it would take well over 386 YEARS to break even in terms of the miner cost. That was with the usual fantasy provisions of "free electricity and no difficulty changes".

While I expected a "premium" price, this is more "Extreme Premium" pricing.

Sounds like someone can't count then :s Under those conditions even a U3 would make $18,000 in that time.

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Sometimes I wish manufacturers would just lock threads between updates. I think everyone's going a little stir-crazy from lack of new hardware recently, some people taking it pretty personally, as if Sfards had any obligation to us in terms of pricing. Not to mention, they haven't released a price to us yet, all we have heard is a third-hand account of pricing (from a very reputable member, mind you).

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OK, so the takeaway from all this is that SFARDS thinks they get the most return for their money by running the SF-100 in house (i.e. mining for themselves), BUT if you are willing to pay them enough, and buy 100 of them, then they are willing to forgo the in-house activity and ship off their SF-100 to a customer?

Makes a lot of sense, and in which case we can pretty much let this thread wither.

It would interesting, though not important, to know if they dual-mine, or just mine one coin?

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Quote from: alh on June 26, 2015, 02:48:44 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 01:52:34 PM

It's my understanding they are getting chips from Spondooliestech. So, when SPT's chips are in new rigs mining [As they are now], we may see them begin development very soon

Ok, while more recent than before, it just clouds the issue further.

What chips does Spondoolies have that are newer than the Rockerbox (SP20), and where are they mining with them? What's your source for this?

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20191/bitcoin-shop-btcs-merge-spondoolies-tech-create-publicly-traded-bitcoin-mining-company/

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Quote from: alh on June 26, 2015, 02:48:44 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 01:52:34 PM

It's my understanding they are getting chips from Spondooliestech. So, when SPT's chips are in new rigs mining [As they are now], we may see them begin development very soon

Ok, while more recent than before, it just clouds the issue further.

What chips does Spondoolies have that are newer than the Rockerbox (SP20), and where are they mining with them? What's your source for this?

thats the miner-edge discussion in the sfards thread I believe ... no wonder its clouded!

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Well, price >$1000 was .... predictable. MOQ=>100 only reinforced me in that belief.
Their announcements and behaviour suggested that they are NOT interested in selling any miners...

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Quote from: alh on June 26, 2015, 02:48:44 PM

Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 01:52:34 PM

It's my understanding they are getting chips from Spondooliestech. So, when SPT's chips are in new rigs mining [As they are now], we may see them begin development very soon

Ok, while more recent than before, it just clouds the issue further.

What chips does Spondoolies have that are newer than the Rockerbox (SP20), and where are they mining with them? What's your source for this?

Just a moment...

Let me find it again.

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Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 01:52:34 PM

It's my understanding they are getting chips from Spondooliestech. So, when SPT's chips are in new rigs mining [As they are now], we may see them begin development very soon

Ok, while more recent than before, it just clouds the issue further.

What chips does Spondoolies have that are newer than the Rockerbox (SP20), and where are they mining with them? What's your source for this?

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Quote from: dmwardjr on June 26, 2015, 01:49:27 PM

Quote from: HerbPean on June 26, 2015, 01:48:20 PM

They won't produce anything until the next Gen comes out (from their last post in the thread)

True, but the price will probably be more appropriate when they do come out.

Possibly, but "data center ready" packaging, and "integrated liquid cooling" doesn't seem like it would come cheap. Your view of "appropriate" may be significantly different than mine. Right now it seems though that few on this forum consider $1129 appropriate

My bet is that SFARDS really doesn't care much about this forum at the present time. I wonder who SFARDS has as customers that are willing to pay $1129, or are they getting a much better price?

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Yea, anything above a price range of say $800 is a no go for me as well. Even $800 is a little steep, but much more of a sane price.

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Quote from: HerbPean on June 26, 2015, 08:50:37 AM

Lee from our hosting group got a price (Lee's hosting group)

Quote from: pcfli on June 26, 2015, 06:00:29 AM

get one price of 7000CNY(1129$), but we need wait until the middle of the august before we can get the miner....
so what are your guys thinking about this offer

Looks like I won't be buying one ! Tongue

That`s too much Huh

wow 1129 and wait a month + 2 weeks.

lee has been a very good guy to host gear. but those prices are rough.

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It's my understanding they are getting chips from Spondooliestech. So, when SPT's chips are in new rigs mining [As they are now], we may see them begin development very soon

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Quote from: HerbPean on June 26, 2015, 01:48:20 PM

They won't produce anything until the next Gen comes out (from their last post in the thread)

True, but the price will probably be more appropriate when they do come out.

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They won't produce anything until the next Gen comes out (from their last post in the thread)

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>1100 is just insane, i don't see how that can ever ROI.

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