Topic: [ANN] [SFR] SaffronCoin | Latest Version - 1.4.2/2.6.2 | Mandatory Wallet Update - page 51. (Read 437833 times)

And tbh, you don't care about the coin. You only care about profits. Everyone remembers you made 20 btc during the June dump. You had also once said you were trying to suppress the price to a price that "you" want but got frustrated because people were buying.

Maybe you are the biggest manipulator we have so you are getting pissed that people are considering the current situation to be manipulation.

Dude you only talk but the community has never benefited from you. The June dump was caused by you but we were targeted. But you don't agree the dump was because of your whitepaper but the entire crypto community thought different.
Ofcourse since you are the investor mastermind and know more than anyone.

Wow hugh what a genius representation. You want us to reduce the supply but you say who spoke about a fork. If not a fork, then how would it reduce? By magic.

SUPPLY IS PERFECT unless you want 1 SFR=0.1 BTC.
Nobody will ask you but we are the ones that need to answer to FUDsters.

Your posts are the only posts that create negativity on the thread. SFR haters need just a small reason to FUD and such negativity provides that.

Sometimes I wonder you are on 1 side and the rest of the community is on other.

People are just expressing their views on market manipulation. No need to get so hyperactive regarding it.

And why are we to be blamed for market prices? We have always delivered what we have said. It is easy to point problems but very difficult to find solutions.
It is upto the community to help the coin apart from coding right?

Since you are also a part of this community, if you could take out some time and visit irc and discuss something constructive with us rather than posting negativity, it would mean a lot to all.

We are not going to reduce supply just to increase the value of coin holders. Within a month supply would be reduced by 5k more due to gradual decreasing block reward.

Folks thats what you get .......lots of talk, a fews pics & excuses, certainly no solutions  

Price - 1464sat and falling [dont worry its manipulation because the manipulator who bought at 1550 yesterday can now sell at 1464 for a massive profit]

https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-SFR

More bs, Nobody suggested another fork. I said the SUPPLY is too much. How do I know this. BECAUSE THE PRICE IS DOWN. What is it about demand and supply you dont get or is that you dont believe in economics. This is why very few software engineers can transition to business... arghhhh !!!

Talking about sell walls causing panic is just wishful thinking ignoring several other factors. eg. If I bought 1btc everytime your so called manipulation happened then the effect of the so called manipulation would be negated BUT AND THIS IS THE CRUCIAL POINT.....their is no one buying the 1 btc after the end of the so called manipulation because their is NO DEMAND whilst 30000 coins flood the market everyday.

See what I mean... Ultimately its demand and supply. One does not need an econometric model to get the issue. The manipulation conspiracy is just a red herring.

"manipulation for selfish gains. ". The price is down. Thats down not up.  How does the manipulator benefit at those miniscule volumes at lower prices. Pleeeeeeeease

The Android wallet is great, SFRPay/Direct, etc,etc,etc is great but the price will keep on going down unless you fix the demand/supply issue.

Its your responsibility not some mysterious price manipulator !





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@hugh People are entitled to their own opinion. Regarding the supply, i don't understand when this issue will die down. The supply has been cut twice already. We figured out the best possible solution for the block reward.
Having a look at the market history, you can easily spot out miner dumps. Dumps of 30-200 are most probably miners. These dumps don't look big and don't create panic.
What creates panic is dumps from daily traders and big investors. The supply is perfectly fine.
Please don't tell us to go for another fork to reduce supply just to benefit holders.

Now regarding manipulation, could you please explain what is the point of flashing 5 btc sell wall at 2k and causing a panic sell from 1700 to 1500 so lower orders get filled and then remove that sell wall?
If it is not manipulation, then what is it? Maybe you are not observing the market closely, once you do, you would know.
This is something we can't control, but it doesn't deny the fact that this is manipulation for selfish gains.
And I have much more work than start creating excuses
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@hugh People are entitled to their own opinion. Regarding the supply, i don't understand when this issue will die down. The supply has been cut twice already. We figured out the best possible solution for the block reward.
Having a look at the market history, you can easily spot out miner dumps. Dumps of 30-200 are most probably miners. These dumps don't look big and don't create panic.
What creates panic is dumps from daily traders and big investors. The supply is perfectly fine.
Please don't tell us to go for another fork to reduce supply just to benefit holders.

Now regarding manipulation, could you please explain what is the point of flashing 5 btc sell wall at 2k and causing a panic sell from 1700 to 1500 so lower orders get filled and then remove that sell wall?
If it is not manipulation, then what is it? Maybe you are not observing the market closely, once you do, you would know.
This is something we can't control, but it doesn't deny the fact that this is manipulation for selfish gains.
And I have much more work than start creating excuses

oh boy...

BS, In fact total BS

Once again I do my 1x/week check on SFR [ my largest crypto investment ] and find now that the Dev is making excuses that he 'feels' its manipulation. Maybe we should rename it conspiracy coin II. Get a grip... this is starting to piss me off big time especially since I have invested real actual AUD in SFR. Now all I am hearing is 'manipulation' excuses and the Dev has joined Crypto11 in this crap. Here is the problem :

1) LOW DEMAND as expressed via LOW VOLUME
2) HIGH SUPPLY as expressed by a steady stream of sell orders on the primary exchange[Bittrex]

Its called economics 101 not Xfiles

Low Demand is a function of our still small community [ see our total voters in last poll for evidence ] and also a function of the entire bTc ecosystem. I am sure you all realise that the bTc price has been suffering. Still we have too excuses as several other coins have increased at least partially in value to counteract bTc's fall.

However our major REAL IMMEDIATE problem is supply[/b] I have repeated and said it several times and it continues to bare itself out in the price of the coin.

We have many 'talkers' on here but few are willing to do something about it. I mean something really tangible. Instead, some here believe in this kubaya community spirit 'thingy' like that is going to fix basic supply and demand economics.

SOLUTION: We need big holders to invest[ie hold] their coins over the medium to longterm AND even more important we need to support the daily coin creation of 960blks of SFR swamping the market using real cash and not just talk.

a) Cryptoindia exchange shares as an INCENTIVE for big holders [Elite Club ] members is a start but where are we going with that

b) 960blk x 32 * 0.00001600btc = 0.49btc support required per day [ if price doubles then obviously that figure rises to 1btc per day....on the other hand price would be 3200sat no doubt helping the demand issue


If a) & b) are taken care of then we can concentrate on 'organic' demand providing incremental price support  [ i.e. a rising price] I doubt we would have to provide support for more than 30-60 days before organic demand overtakes the daily coin creation. Its all about confidence.

Now we have a few 'talkers' on this board who only give lip service to support. Let me be the first to say I will  provide 0.025btc support everyday for 90days.

We need 16 more people to commit to that level of price support or 32 more people to provide 0.0125btc support per day for 4 -8 weeks. JUST $5 bucks/day !!!!!!

We would send the bTc to a central address managed by a community member. SIMPLE. He would buy 31000SFR every single day and send the coins 1x/week to the contributors

ANY TAKERS ready to invest $5/day and become a big SFR holder in the process ??  




 










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Great Good news so far +100 DEV

Of course its market manipulation. Did anyone catch the tard who had that nice 5btc sell at 2k which got cancelled once the prices dumped to 1500?

Me too -> I bought !!!

Sorry can't seem to get u. All developments and releases are on course. If u are asking about current prices, I personally feel it is market manipulation.

Not at present but later we might add an option of importing addresses.

+1

SFR is a good coin and I think that Cryptsy and Bter wouldn't mind to open LTC pairs for Saffron. Many people (myself included) are investing in scrypt coins. It will be really good move imho.

Loaded

Sorry if question is lame, but is it possible to use my existing PC wallet address in the Android app? And if yes - how? Thank you in advance...

Downloaded!
Another good job from you dev!

Very nice and ergonomic UI!

EDIT: and thanks for adding my SFR address on the OP

Android Wallet Published!

Download the android wallet from : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.coinlabs.saffroncoin

Mobiles with android version over 2.3 are supported.

This app will soon be updated to support aliases, SFRBit and SFRPay.

The all-in-one necessary mobile wallet!

Thx TizeN85 
Thx cryptoholic11 I will do another one soon