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Topic: ✅ ✅ ✅ [ANN] Shaker.finance - trusted & safe BTC mixing solutions ✅ ✅ ✅ - page 2. (Read 766 times)

legendary
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Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?
Here is one of those review campaign done by another mixer service, Go-Overt Bitcoin Mixer review campaign. so you can see how that looks like. If you decide to start one of those, make sure to find an escrow that will hold the funds (or hire manager to do that for you) otherwise people won't join. Well, at least not experienced & reputable ones, and that's exactly who you want to join.
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea
Yes, I understood that part before and that's exactly why I think it's not that safe! Essentially, it'll lead to fusing two different digital footprints together [even if there's a single hop in-between] and that could go wrong in various ways [e.g. when an analysis company traces those transactions, there'll be collateral damage].
copper member
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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.

How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer.

About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary.

It was probably scam exit after the case where money suddenly disappeared from their Blender wallet, you may read about it on the web
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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
Also, Blender.io "went MIA" all of a sudden.

How come the US Authorities decided to sanction them? I am pretty sure they were surveilling them, and even they knew how the Korean hackers mixed the coins through the mixer.

About the alternatives, that's your work to do, my friend. I am just helping you look at things from different angles, so you can improve on your service where necessary.
copper member
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Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.
It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers.

I will consider this thing, need some reviews in fact
Do you have some topics-examples maybe ?
legendary
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Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
Signature campaign is fine, but I was thinking about creating something like honest review campaign and testing from experienced forum members.
It's not easy for people to trust new mixing service and it takes time to get trust from people, but at least we can compare your service with other well established mixers.
Another thing you could do is to have open bounty reward for anyone who finds flaws in your website.
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Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy пepcoнaльныx дaнныx

Is this looking like Lithuanian language to anyone, or maybe bigger neighboring country like I suspected? Wink

Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works.


It's Russian language, this is fixed within few minutes, we will fix those things within 1-2 days.

Launching signature campaign on bitcointalk for now
legendary
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Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy пepcoнaльныx дaнныx

Is this looking like Lithuanian language to anyone, or maybe bigger neighboring country like I suspected? Wink

Shaker_finance I would suggest that you create and sponsor small campaign for testing your service, maybe some people will find bugs and examine how your website works.
Similar mixing service have done something similar in past, and it could be good for everyone in future.

copper member
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I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so.

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.

20 BTC per mix maximum at the moment

Let me know for spelling mistakes where are they, we just launched and fixing them would take few mins

Sgning is not safe, we will deposit soon around 40-50k$ on forums deposits, including wwh-club, exploit, xss and some others where we have advertisement or planning to have it, arranging this moment with project investors
legendary
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Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse
I had a few minutes spent on the website and found a few spelling mistakes. Don't you think a professional business would cross-check a few times before launching the website? I don't think we are dealing with a professional team. At least, the website says so.

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
What's the maximum amount you allow? 10 BTC or 100 BTC or above? Never mind, would you mind signing from an address with a balance of 10 BTC? That would increase your trustworthiness. You don't have to share with me. In this case, you can trust LoyceV and I'm sure LoyceV won't share the PM with anyone else.
copper member
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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know

How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties?
We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP
How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable?
What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing?

We don't store logs, it's mixer policy
Mixing process takes up to few hours, starts once there is 1st confirmation on the blockchain. In the standard mix mode user will receive coins of previous mixer participants, in the clean mix mode - clean coins from exchanges



In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you 

want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!

This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from
cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean 

coins with lowest available AML score percentage
I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!

   -  Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes
If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]!

   -  Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC!
A signed message would be nice Smiley

For the standard mix mode it's relatively safe, you won't get your coins but will get someone else coins that's the idea

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
In this case you will receive money of people who used mixer before you. Choose that mode if you 

want to save on transaction fees but still remain anonymous and safe
Personally, I wouldn't label it as "safe" if it's going to create a bridge between someone else's previous history and the other user!

This mode allows crypto holders receiving completely clean and anonymous Bitcoins that come from
cryptocurrency exchanges and/or miners. Choose this mode if you want to receive completely clean 

coins with lowest available AML score percentage
I had a brief experience with a few analysis software tools in the past and IIRC, "most" exchanges returned with medium-risk ML scores!

  -  Open statistics: in the mix monitor section you can see chart & latest mixes volumes
If I were you, I'd remove that section completely [it's not that hard to connect the dots if everything you've listed in there is accurate]!

  -  Unlimited max amount: Send any amount and mixing will go smoothly even if it's 10 BTC!
A signed message would be nice Smiley
legendary
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Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know

How will you ensure the privacy of customers or that their IP addresses will not be recorded or exchanged with third parties?
We have seen many sites effected by massive DDOS attacks, but at least some of them have a Tor version, Hope to see it ASAP
How long does the mixing process take? Is it constant or random and if it is random is it predictable?
What is the source of the coins, meaning that you will mix the user's coins, or does the mixing process begin before depositing?
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I believe, the code could be improved

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Haжимaя нa кнoпкy, вы дaётe coглacиe нa oбpaбoткy пepcoнaльныx дaнныx


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they both seem not needed.

About the piece of code below, how that come the stats are static? You edit them everyday, or?
It should be dynamic. Sorry for the question but I started to wonder "this guy added random numbers to make it looking 'active'

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Good luck with your service. More mixers coming, better it is. Are you planning a Tor version?

copper member
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Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?

How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare?

Blender.io was using cloudflare for years. Plenty of Russian darknet forums use or used cloudflare. If you have some other alternative but cloudflare let me know
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
The difference between them and your service is that they are exchangers (some of them are AML complaint) and yours is a mixing service. You do realize that when you start mixing coins, Governments and law enforcement agencies could start surveilling your service?

How do you guarantee that your customers are safe from surveillance when your service is using Cloudflare?
legendary
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Merit: 7064
For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts
There is a big difference between big amounts and unlimited amounts.
So far I haven't seen anything that proves you hold substantial or any amount of coins, and I think it's high risk using something that can be gone and terminated tomorrow.

Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else
BestChange is not exchange nor it is used for mixing of coins, so it's totally different use case, and they are also available on Tor.

Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then
Did I use the word ''fradulent''?
No, I didn't, and it's nothing funny about that  Roll Eyes
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Any service can terminate their website and they may not write it in their TOS, it's just basic TOS, we are not going to terminate it of course

For unlimited amount - we have reserves and able to serve big amounts

Speaking for cloudflare - some of the online exchangers from bestchange use it successfully and there are no mitm attacks or anything else

Registration in Lithuania or antiabuse is something fraudulent now ? LOL sounds funny then
legendary
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I wouldn't use or trust any bitcoin mixer on clearnet that uses cloudflare for ddos protection, like it's the case with Shaker.finance.
One more thing that makes this service suspicious is their claims that you can mix unlimited amount of coins, for new service that is highly unlikely and you didn't reveal how much funds you have in total.
Second thing I noticed reading your ToS page is that you can terminate your service at any time without taking any responsibility whatsoever:
https://shaker.finance/terms

Registration country shows Lithuania, but I suspect this is more likely one of their bigger neighboring country:
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Domain Name: shaker.finance
Registry Domain ID: 20c05d5259f743b9a5fe2d9c3b4322ea-DONUTS
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.1api.net
Registrar URL: http://www.1api.net
Updated Date: 2022-04-10T10:40:50Z
Creation Date: 2021-12-04T17:15:12Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2022-12-04T17:15:12Z
Registrar: 1API GmbH
https://www.whois.com/whois/shaker.finance
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