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Topic: [ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs - page 323. (Read 1260290 times)
October 20, 2014, 05:11:01 PM
October 20, 2014, 04:04:18 PM
It is now a week into the "second half of October"...why is it Spondoolies refuses to provide consistent updates on the status of their products?
Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
As far as i can tell SP is providing reasonable updates. Take a moment to scan the landscape and look at KNC, BFL and even Bitmain. I am sure they will provide a update soon
October 20, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
It is now a week into the "second half of October"...why is it Spondoolies refuses to provide consistent updates on the status of their products?
Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
I think I read it couple of posts ago that they will provide an update about SP20 and SP31 on tuesday/wednesday .... Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
October 20, 2014, 01:32:41 PM
It is now a week into the "second half of October"...why is it Spondoolies refuses to provide consistent updates on the status of their products?
Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
Is it that hard to log on every couple days? You'd think they'd want to provide information to their customers, but I guess when you've already got their money...
October 20, 2014, 01:05:38 PM
It depends on each miner. I found out that the most efficient settings is to set min voltage 0.612 and max voltage 0.618(or 0.622). I have my miners set up to min 0.614 and max 0.618.
Not sure how you do it there on your SP10, but on my SP30 running FW 2.4.21 the UI does not accept any low voltage.. This is what the UI says, and the settings must be in the range to be accepted.
I was talking about SP10. The SP30 has totally different settings!
October 20, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
It depends on each miner. I found out that the most efficient settings is to set min voltage 0.612 and max voltage 0.618(or 0.622). I have my miners set up to min 0.614 and max 0.618.
Not sure how you do it there on your SP10, but on my SP30 running FW 2.4.21 the UI does not accept any low voltage.. This is what the UI says, and the settings must be in the range to be accepted.
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Set your starting voltage no more then 10 mv under your stable working voltage (from ASIC stats page)
Start Volts Top (0.66-0.70)
Start Volts Bottom(0.66-0.70)
Start Volts Top (0.66-0.70)
Start Volts Bottom(0.66-0.70)
now .. I can always edit the parameters "FAN:80 VST:660 VSB:660 VMAX:750 AC_TOP:1330 AC_BOT:1295 DC_AMP:150" in /etc/mg_custom_mode, but not everyone is playing with the files.
I suspect the "stable working voltage" in the ASIC page is the "vlt1/vlt2" range when the unit is running fine .. where VLT1 is the low voltage setting, and the VLT2 is the high one.
Also, please note that the top psu powers loops 0 to 4 and the bottom psu powers loops 5 to 9. At least on my unit.
Code:
Uptime:150 | FPGA ver:32
-----BOARD-0-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1520->1324w[1320 1324 1320] (->1350w[1350 1350 1350]) (lim=1330) 0c cooling:0/0x20003200
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1456->1292w[1292 1288 1288] (->1306w[1306 1306 1306]) (lim=1295) 0c cooling:0/0x20003200
LOOP[0] ON
0: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 65W 94A 55c] ASIC:[ 85c 740hz(BL: 740) 515 (E:193) F:0]
1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W 99A 56c] ASIC:[ 85c 765hz(BL: 765) 566 (E:191) F:0]
2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 71W 101A 50c] ASIC:[ 85c 795hz(BL: 795) 582 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W 96A 55c] ASIC:[ 85c 750hz(BL: 750) 561 (E:192) F:0]
4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 70W 100A 67c] ASIC:[ 85c 790hz(BL: 790) 600 (E:193) F:0]
5: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 64W 92A 61c] ASIC:[ 85c 725hz(BL: 725) 505 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[2] ON
6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 72W 102A 72c] ASIC:[ 85c 810hz(BL: 810) 585 (E:193) F:0]
7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 77W 109A 76c] ASIC:[100c 840hz(BL: 840) 607 (E:193) F:0]
8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 74W 106A 58c] ASIC:[ 85c 815hz(BL: 815) 605 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:701 Ul:749) 74W 106A 70c] ASIC:[110c 805hz(BL: 805) 598 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 81W 115A 82c] ASIC:[105c 870hz(BL: 870) 663 (E:193) F:0]
11: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 70W 100A 73c] ASIC:[ 85c 780hz(BL: 780) 577 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:681 vlt2:688(DCl:794 Tl:688 Ul:749) 68W 99A 83c] ASIC:[110c 805hz(BL: 805) 576 (E:193) F:0]
13: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:693 Ul:749) 66W 95A 79c] ASIC:[110c 765hz(BL: 765) 530 (E:193) F:0]
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 75W 107A 67c] ASIC:[110c 840hz(BL: 840) 598 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:685 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 63W 91A 53c] ASIC:[ 85c 725hz(BL: 725) 485 (E:193) F:0]
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:687 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W 96A 57c] ASIC:[ 85c 765hz(BL: 765) 561 (E:191) F:0]
17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 67W 97A 49c] ASIC:[ 85c 765hz(BL: 765) 553 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W 99A 59c] ASIC:[ 85c 785hz(BL: 785) 581 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 68W 98A 69c] ASIC:[ 85c 785hz(BL: 785) 587 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 68W 98A 66c] ASIC:[ 85c 780hz(BL: 780) 534 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 73W 105A 78c] ASIC:[ 85c 820hz(BL: 820) 567 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 68W 98A 77c] ASIC:[ 85c 790hz(BL: 790) 574 (E:193) F:0]
23: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 66W 95A 60c] ASIC:[ 85c 750hz(BL: 750) 563 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[8] ON
24: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 69W 99A 69c] ASIC:[105c 785hz(BL: 785) 576 (E:193) F:0]
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 68W 98A 81c] ASIC:[100c 790hz(BL: 790) 572 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 79W 114A 84c] ASIC:[105c 865hz(BL: 865) 719 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[9] ON
27: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 70W 101A 85c] ASIC:[105c 785hz(BL: 785) 288 (E:189) F:0]
28: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:691 vlt2:695(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:749) 63W 90A 81c] ASIC:[100c 715hz(BL: 715) 222 (E:193) F:0]
29: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:689 vlt2:693(DCl:794 Tl:693 Ul:749) 70W 102A 71c] ASIC:[110c 805hz(BL: 805) 300 (E:193) F:0]
[H:HW:4555Gh,W:2102,L:0,A:30,MMtmp:0 TMP:(22)=>=>=>(70,71)]
Pushed 27 jobs , in HW queue 4 jobs (sw:1, hw:1)!
min:54 wins:16350[this/last min:203/259] bist-fail:527, hw-err:92
leading-zeroes:40 idle promils[s/m]:0/0, rate:4526gh/s asic-count:30
Fan:80, conseq:200
AC2DC BAD: 0 0
R/NR: 4193/0
RTF asics: 0
2 restarted 0 reset 0 reset2 0 fake_wins
0 stuck_bist 0 low_power 0 stuck_pll 0 runtime_dsble
0 purge_queue 1 read_timeouts 0 dc2dc_oc 26 read_tmout2 2 read_crptn
0 purge_queue3 94 bad_idle
Adapter queues: rsp=1, req=22
October 20, 2014, 07:07:56 AM
My question is what is considered "small" ? I know we can underclock the miner if thats what you're preferring to.
Basically, i'm wishing for an ability to set W/GHs target and the miner can auto adjust to reach that. I'm sure there would be limitation such as minimum voltage...etc.
Or you can propose a list of settings for several W/GHs target ... ?
EDIT:
Is this reading accurate? I take that says 1256 W from AC (the wall)?
Basically, i'm wishing for an ability to set W/GHs target and the miner can auto adjust to reach that. I'm sure there would be limitation such as minimum voltage...etc.
Or you can propose a list of settings for several W/GHs target ... ?
EDIT:
Code:
AC2DC power=1256[1260], temp=0, leading zeroes=41
Is this reading accurate? I take that says 1256 W from AC (the wall)?
It depends on each miner. I found out that the most efficient settings is to set min voltage 0.612 and max voltage 0.618(or 0.622). I have my miners set up to min 0.614 and max 0.618.
October 20, 2014, 06:07:28 AM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Well, I believe that with 99% probability that should not create any problems, but if they all give 4.4, I see no reason to upgrade.
Can you pls do your magic and add "most efficient" features to the firmware? Its essential for SP10 so it can mine abit longer.
Something that can make clock tuning abit faster.
It is there: just set the "start-voltage" to something small and "top voltage" to "start-voltage + 5mv".
My question is what is considered "small" ? I know we can underclock the miner if thats what you're preferring to.
Basically, i'm wishing for an ability to set W/GHs target and the miner can auto adjust to reach that. I'm sure there would be limitation such as minimum voltage...etc.
Or you can propose a list of settings for several W/GHs target ... ?
EDIT:
Code:
AC2DC power=1256[1260], temp=0, leading zeroes=41
Is this reading accurate? I take that says 1256 W from AC (the wall)?
You will have to do that trial and error way.
I don't have the bandwidth to implement W/GHs target.
Small is dependant on system/ASIC batch.
Just play with it till you reach good numbers.
October 20, 2014, 03:20:57 AM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Well, I believe that with 99% probability that should not create any problems, but if they all give 4.4, I see no reason to upgrade.
Can you pls do your magic and add "most efficient" features to the firmware? Its essential for SP10 so it can mine abit longer.
Something that can make clock tuning abit faster.
It is there: just set the "start-voltage" to something small and "top voltage" to "start-voltage + 5mv".
My question is what is considered "small" ? I know we can underclock the miner if thats what you're preferring to.
Basically, i'm wishing for an ability to set W/GHs target and the miner can auto adjust to reach that. I'm sure there would be limitation such as minimum voltage...etc.
Or you can propose a list of settings for several W/GHs target ... ?
EDIT:
Code:
AC2DC power=1256[1260], temp=0, leading zeroes=41
Is this reading accurate? I take that says 1256 W from AC (the wall)?
October 20, 2014, 03:17:08 AM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Well, I believe that with 99% probability that should not create any problems, but if they all give 4.4, I see no reason to upgrade.
Can you pls do your magic and add "most efficient" features to the firmware? Its essential for SP10 so it can mine abit longer.
Something that can make clock tuning abit faster.
It is there: just set the "start-voltage" to something small and "top voltage" to "start-voltage + 5mv".
October 20, 2014, 02:57:51 AM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Well, I believe that with 99% probability that should not create any problems, but if they all give 4.4, I see no reason to upgrade.
Can you pls do your magic and add "most efficient" features to the firmware? Its essential for SP10 so it can mine abit longer.
Something that can make clock tuning abit faster.
October 20, 2014, 02:54:44 AM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Well, I believe that with 99% probability that should not create any problems, but if they all give 4.4, I see no reason to upgrade.
October 20, 2014, 02:47:36 AM
I have a newer SP30 that came with the Murata power supplies. The lower PSU cuts out on a weekly basis and the hash rate drops to 2TH/s requiring a power cycle to the PSU. I am on firmware 2.4.21.
Can I just replace the Murata's with Emerson DS1200's without changing anything else? I don't care about the warranty.
Can I just replace the Murata's with Emerson DS1200's without changing anything else? I don't care about the warranty.
http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/15676764-some-murata-noise-problem-solving
Hi All.
We have noticed that some percentage of the SP30/PSUs does not survive the shipment that well. After talking with Remo we see that the problems are usually of 2 types:
Murata/Board problems:
The Murata are not as stable as Emerson to begin with, and when failing they need a power cycle, unlike Emerson.
We set the top limit for Murata to be 1300 in latest FW, but it is still too much for some Muratas, especially in hot environment. You can set lower limit in the "settings" tab if you see your Murata keeps failing.
If you want to force and set Muratta to higher value then 1300, you will have to ssh to the system and do the following: "echo 1 > /etc/mg_ignore_110_fcc". Don't do this if you have 110V since this will burn your cables and PSU, only if you have 220V and want to try and get more juice from the Murata.
What to do in case of miner mining 50%:
In case you have non-functioning board, and getting hash rate of ~2000-2300Th, please check the light on the back of the PSUs. If one of the lights is not green, do full 30 second power cycle to the unit.
If after the power cycle the PSU goes up but it's light not turning green, then there is a shortage on board or in the PSU. To test if it is the PSU or the board, try swapping the top and bottom PSUs. If the red light consistantly in same PSU you should RMA PSU. If the red light is consistant in the place (top or bottom) then you will have to RMA the whole miner. If the unit goes up OK, but turns red after some mining - then you have to set lower limit to the Murata.
Noise/Restarts problem
In case of system going to restarts, and mining non-consistanly, giving very spiky graph between 3.5Th and 4.5Th, there is a chance there was a noise on the lines. We usually discover those systems in production, but some systems get the problem after shipment. Usually the problem is in ASICs in loops 14 and 29. In this case go to the setting page and try to disable all ASICs on loops 14 and 29 (set to Disabled, not removed). If the system will start woking stable, but giving lower hash-rate then the problem is in those loops. You can try to discover where the problem exactly by checking the log page or enabling asics one by one. Once your miner is stable and mining, you can open ports and initiate a support call so we can check the situation and create RMA in severe cases.
Regards, Zvi.
October 20, 2014, 02:25:35 AM
I keep receiving e-mails from someone called Ori from S-T about the refund, asking me for my bank and address details.
I replied to these e-mails but my replies were ignored like they have not been read and I was responded with the same reply, keeping asking me about my bank details. Are these e-mails legit? What's this all about?
I replied to these e-mails but my replies were ignored like they have not been read and I was responded with the same reply, keeping asking me about my bank details. Are these e-mails legit? What's this all about?
Have you checked the headers? Actually, I get similar mails claiming to come from Spondoolies, KnC, Bitmine, Bitmain and some other companies. It seems as someone got a whole bunch of email-adresses from people in the Bitcoin-world. Has the mail an attachement? All the mails I received had a jar attached... guess what it was....
.and the correct answer is...:
...A BIG F.UCKING NASTY VIRUS...
ZiG
October 20, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
What miner would you order right now SP20 or Sp35? I am past the ROI argument and just want to get a feel for what you guys would do. Electricity I have a lot of 240V now and I just want to pull the trigger so to speak.
Listen, if you buy a miner today you may get a few coins out of it. Why don't you spend less money and just buy some bitcoins outright.
Nah, idiot wants money printing machine yo!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9084757 .
October 20, 2014, 12:20:36 AM
is local pickup an option ?
You would need to pay VAT then 
The shipping rates are very fair in my opinion, FedEx shipping from Israel to US takes only around 48hours, and for 300$ on a 19kg package, it is provided at cost.
Nobody makes money on shipping nowadays.
The shipping companies make money on shipping.
Fedex and UPS worth are in the billions. Trust me, they are making money.
October 19, 2014, 11:58:59 PM
What miner would you order right now SP20 or Sp35? I am past the ROI argument and just want to get a feel for what you guys would do. Electricity I have a lot of 240V now and I just want to pull the trigger so to speak.
Listen, if you buy a miner today you may get a few coins out of it. Why don't you spend less money and just buy some bitcoins outright.
October 19, 2014, 11:48:19 PM
I have a newer SP30 that came with the Murata power supplies. The lower PSU cuts out on a weekly basis and the hash rate drops to 2TH/s requiring a power cycle to the PSU. I am on firmware 2.4.21.
Can I just replace the Murata's with Emerson DS1200's without changing anything else? I don't care about the warranty.
Can I just replace the Murata's with Emerson DS1200's without changing anything else? I don't care about the warranty.
October 19, 2014, 11:42:54 PM
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
I've got a bunch of SP30. They are pretty good. Awesome even. But, no matter. They still won't ROI - ever. They run really well and it is a damn good system. However difficulty is high, BTC price is low. The calculus changed and it just doesn't make sense. I wonder when the .2 W/GHs gear is coming out? The next gen stuff is going to be interesting.The question I have is firmware upgrades. My machines are running perfectly at 4.4T. Should I upgrade? What if this fucks things up? I kind-of like the machines running at full speed without any interruptions. I don't know if it is such a good idea to upgrade. Zvi?
Why are you running hardware knowing you'll never make your money back. Are you rich enough that basically giving your money away and losing money everyday is ok for you?
October 19, 2014, 11:41:02 PM
Any testing on the October batch, still on track for 6.5 Thash?
We got the preliminary ASICs results for October batch. We'll meet 5.5 TH/s +- 5% with 3KW at the wall.
This is guaranteed. You'll get a refund in case we won't. You'll enjoy additional hash-rate if it will be better.
We're further tuning the process to get better results for November.
hi!
news for SP35 .. 6 TH/S SHIPPING IN THE SECOND HALF OF NOVEMBER ?
real test? real TH/s ?
5.5 TH/s and 3kw ? or more?
I suspect that the SP31 and SP35 will perform as advertised, but it is nice to know Spond backs up their claims with a compensation guarantee.
* Also: you need to own it, be hashing with it, and have measured the power draw at the wall. No hearsay. I own two SP30s so I know from experience how they perform.
Could be the best made rig in the world, but nothing you order today, especially pre-order will never get it's money back. You need to buy the hardware at %50 off and throw in free electricity. Then maybe you'll get a few bucks return a year later.
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