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Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes - page 119. (Read 810098 times)

hero member
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I hope someone can answer my questions for me.

So spreadcoin will only allow 1440 MN to exist at anyone time correct?

The amount to run a MN is decided by the top 1440 addresses acting as Masternodes in regard to account balance?

So if I am MN #1400 with a balance if 600 SPR, someone can setup a MN with a balance of 601 SPR, bump me down to 1439 and I lose the ability to act as a MN?



Correct.  1440 max (at least on testnet.  Mr. Spread MAY change this for mainnet but has not hinted that he will).  They are determined by balance.

Yes, you can kick someone else off by putting more SPR in them.  This is what we're currently testing on testnet.
legendary
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I hope someone can answer my questions for me.

So spreadcoin will only allow 1440 MN to exist at anyone time correct?

The amount to run a MN is decided by the top 1440 addresses acting as Masternodes in regard to account balance?

So if I am MN #1400 with a balance if 600 SPR, someone can setup a MN with a balance of 601 SPR, bump me down to 1439 and I lose the ability to act as a MN?

legendary
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Damn, we now have 1400 MNs, ...

I'd like to setup a few more MNs, if someone could help me with the necessairy "juice"

http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94.msg2116#msg2116

legendary
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I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

2 BTC ~ 6666 SPR
6666 SPR / 31 ~ 215 SPR/day
Daily minted SPR ~ 9000
Net hash ~ 4000 MH/s

(215/9000) * 4000 ~ 95 MH/s.

How many 290's are you running?


wow, you are a veritable detective!

Again, not what I'm running, my fee.

Yes, I saw your answer too late.
jr. member
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But for 2 BTC u can get 290x and compensate for lover hashrate and when the mining days of SPR is over u can use it for other coins Wink
Think big, is meant for those GPU farms with tens or hundreds of GPUs.

I'm mining over two days 2 x r9 280 not single block.  I see now because farms using optimized miner getting all the blocks.  Not even chance to get few coins on pool.  Wasted time mining just burn electricity.  I give up and stop mining.  This is big farm coin only.
legendary
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I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

2 BTC ~ 6666 SPR
6666 SPR / 31 ~ 215 SPR/day
Daily minted SPR ~ 9000
Net hash ~ 4000 MH/s

(215/9000) * 4000 ~ 95 MH/s.

How many 290's are you running?


wow, you are a veritable detective!
newbie
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While people have the ability to do these things, it does go against the grain. Avoiding pools on the one hand, having optimized miners take advantage of the solo miners on the other.

Why is this only a problem for SPR?

Couldn't I optimize my mining software to mine DRK more efficiently, then take my new miner to a pool and mine DRK?

Yes. 100%.

But, what's the point of having a USP of solo mining, when there is the ability to optimize the miner and create centralization by other means?

Centralization doesn't just mean control by pools. The notion of mining as Satoshi had intended was raised early on. Well Satoshi also asked for mining through consensus of a gentleman's agreement to play fair.

The average total coins generated across the network per day stays the same.  Faster machines just get a larger share than slower machines.  If everyone bought faster machines, they wouldn't get more coins than before.

We should have a gentleman's agreement to postpone the GPU arms race as long as we can for the good of the network.  It's much easer to get new users up to speed if they don't have to worry about GPU drivers and compatibility. It's nice how anyone with just a CPU can compete fairly equally right now.

I have no issue with anyone using their skills to make what they can. I have no issue with anyone gloating that they used their skills to earn a profit.

But you can't promote fair solo mining, when mining is, in reality, anything but fair.

A solution to both pools and optimized mining should be proposed.  Otherwise, its a nil sum game over mining with pools.

In your words and satoshi's, why are you nitpicking against SPR's solo mining then ?
By your logic, shouldn't the entire community be upset that the Nvidia Maxwell cards outperforms all previous nvidia cards and all AMD alternatives by a large margin an unfair advantage to newcomers vs old gpu miners ?
Shouldn't everyone be gentlemanly and use the same model of CPU or GPU to mine ?
Shouldn't those who got lucky and get more blocks per day than they should by probability donate out all extras to others ?
What is FAIR ? What is DECENTRALIZATION ?
hero member
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But for 2 BTC u can get 290x and compensate for lover hashrate and when the mining days of SPR is over u can use it for other coins Wink
Think big, is meant for those GPU farms with tens or hundreds of GPUs.
I agree with you, my quote was meant for miners with 4 or less GPUs Smiley
full member
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But for 2 BTC u can get 290x and compensate for lover hashrate and when the mining days of SPR is over u can use it for other coins Wink
Think big, is meant for those GPU farms with tens or hundreds of GPUs.
hero member
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Simply because they aren't as good at it - there's always a way to make it faster.

There comes a point where the marginal improvements don't make a difference.

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Because building a fee into the miner is risky and a giant pain in the ass. As for why I don't just sell it as-is, once a lot of people have it, they will share it for free.

Understandable. But that's partly laziness, as you've said. There are ways to make licencing work.

Quite true - but reimplementing stratum and all that bullshit is dead boring - and then on top, there's always the risk of reverse engineering, like what happened to girino.

Right. That's the end of that road. How much for the miner?

I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

id mine that for you wolf ...

wanna do a deal? ...

#crysx

Mine what for me?

I'm pretty sure he means he will mine the 2 BTC worth of SPR with "your" new miner for you and give it to you in exchange, I've seen chrysophylax's hashrate and if he had the optimized miner then wholly crap.

Hardly worth it - I'd make 2 BTC worth of SPR every month regardless...

Case in point !

Hey everyone ! Lets do all we can to help make this x-shitalgo pusher rich !

I don't push shit - the algos are there, the implementations suck... I do what I can and make a profit.
But for 2 BTC u can get 290x and compensate for lover hashrate and when the mining days of SPR is over u can use it for other coins Wink
full member
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how to adjust the GPU? Mining only solo? thank you.
What GPU do u have? Yes Solo Mining only.
sr. member
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how to adjust the GPU? Mining only solo? thank you.
legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

2 BTC ~ 6666 SPR
6666 SPR / 31 ~ 215 SPR/day
Daily minted SPR ~ 9000
Net hash ~ 4000 MH/s

(215/9000) * 4000 ~ 95 MH/s.

How many 290's are you running?


I'll guesstimate.. 4 gpus. Shocked

Or.. lets take a walk on the wild asic side and say... 8 gridseeds. Shocked Shocked

Ya.. you heard me !
hero member
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Case in point !

Hey everyone ! Lets do all we can to help make this x-shitalgo pusher rich !
Hippie just let it go bro Smiley We get it you don't like SpreadCoin or you secretly do and are purposely trying to stir up shit to get cheap coins.  Either way no one here really cares about anything that you have to say because you have said it over and over again.  The SpreadCoin community believes in this coin and believes in the developer and there is nothing that you can say to change that.  Oh there are optimized miners?? Well I'm pretty sure that every coin has an optimized miner for it so why the huge fuss about Spreadcoin having optimized miners?  Oh 4 people who apparently trust each other enough to go through the trouble to create a pool are mining together?? BIG DEAL!! They hardly have any amount of the net hashrate and I mean they are sharing 6.66 Spr for each block they solve whoooopie!! Also every coin has pools just with SpreadCoin Mr. Spread has made the idea of pool mining more of a hassle and headache for people to just pop up pool after pool and mine the shit out of the coin.  I have had to purchase every SpreadCoin I own and you don't hear me pissing and moaning about it.  Seriously and don't take this the wrong way but if you are a butt hurt trader who can't figure the game out and keeps losing money doing this then maybe it's time to take up a new hobby bro Smiley Anyways Have a Super day Wink

Cheers
legendary
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I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

2 BTC ~ 6666 SPR
6666 SPR / 31 ~ 215 SPR/day
Daily minted SPR ~ 9000
Net hash ~ 4000 MH/s

(215/9000) * 4000 ~ 95 MH/s.

How many 290's are you running?
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1001
All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.

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Simply because they aren't as good at it - there's always a way to make it faster.

There comes a point where the marginal improvements don't make a difference.

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Because building a fee into the miner is risky and a giant pain in the ass. As for why I don't just sell it as-is, once a lot of people have it, they will share it for free.

Understandable. But that's partly laziness, as you've said. There are ways to make licencing work.

Quite true - but reimplementing stratum and all that bullshit is dead boring - and then on top, there's always the risk of reverse engineering, like what happened to girino.

Right. That's the end of that road. How much for the miner?

I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

id mine that for you wolf ...

wanna do a deal? ...

#crysx

Mine what for me?

I'm pretty sure he means he will mine the 2 BTC worth of SPR with "your" new miner for you and give it to you in exchange, I've seen chrysophylax's hashrate and if he had the optimized miner then wholly crap.

Hardly worth it - I'd make 2 BTC worth of SPR every month regardless...

Case in point !

Hey everyone ! Lets do all we can to help make this x-shitalgo pusher rich !
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1001

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Quote
Simply because they aren't as good at it - there's always a way to make it faster.

There comes a point where the marginal improvements don't make a difference.

Quote
Because building a fee into the miner is risky and a giant pain in the ass. As for why I don't just sell it as-is, once a lot of people have it, they will share it for free.

Understandable. But that's partly laziness, as you've said. There are ways to make licencing work.

Quite true - but reimplementing stratum and all that bullshit is dead boring - and then on top, there's always the risk of reverse engineering, like what happened to girino.

Right. That's the end of that road. How much for the miner?

I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

id mine that for you wolf ...

wanna do a deal? ...

#crysx

Mine what for me?

I'm pretty sure he means he will mine the 2 BTC worth of SPR with "your" new miner for you and give it to you in exchange, I've seen chrysophylax's hashrate and if he had the optimized miner then wholly crap.

Hardly worth it - I'd make 2 BTC worth of SPR every month regardless...

Fair enough but I think that's what he meant though.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1001

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Quote
Simply because they aren't as good at it - there's always a way to make it faster.

There comes a point where the marginal improvements don't make a difference.

Quote
Because building a fee into the miner is risky and a giant pain in the ass. As for why I don't just sell it as-is, once a lot of people have it, they will share it for free.

Understandable. But that's partly laziness, as you've said. There are ways to make licencing work.

Quite true - but reimplementing stratum and all that bullshit is dead boring - and then on top, there's always the risk of reverse engineering, like what happened to girino.

Right. That's the end of that road. How much for the miner?

I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

id mine that for you wolf ...

wanna do a deal? ...

#crysx

Mine what for me?

I'm pretty sure he means he will mine the 2 BTC worth of SPR with "your" new miner for you and give it to you in exchange, I've seen chrysophylax's hashrate and if he had the optimized miner then wholly crap.
legendary
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Simply because they aren't as good at it - there's always a way to make it faster.

There comes a point where the marginal improvements don't make a difference.

Quote
Because building a fee into the miner is risky and a giant pain in the ass. As for why I don't just sell it as-is, once a lot of people have it, they will share it for free.

Understandable. But that's partly laziness, as you've said. There are ways to make licencing work.

Quite true - but reimplementing stratum and all that bullshit is dead boring - and then on top, there's always the risk of reverse engineering, like what happened to girino.

Right. That's the end of that road. How much for the miner?

I'd release the working bins for probably around 2 BTC - which is about what I'd make off it in the next 31 days.

id mine that for you wolf ...

wanna do a deal? ...

#crysx
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1001

Darkcoin sees SPR on the street.... Who's having all the fun?


I'm trying to figure out if the guy is driving or the girl is walking backwards. Smiley

Easy, look at the mirror image in the window...
Kiss You are a smart person, my friend.


I have 0.46 btc, at what price should I buy SPR?

Maybe someone can give me a little discount...

Anything around 25k-30k satoshi is a great price to get in on SPR.
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