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Looking good! Digital Money! we are expecting better than other new coins from #STASH.
joined bounty for better future. i hope i will be collect better stakes till the end of Bounty.
By the way best of Luck! STASH. You will get success soon.

Thank you for your support, we plan to do all we can to make the project a success.
It's my pleasure to join you #stash
THank you for replying me with encourage.
we are expecting more from #stash.
Best of luck.
full member
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Looking good! Digital Money! we are expecting better than other new coins from #STASH.
joined bounty for better future. i hope i will be collect better stakes till the end of Bounty.
By the way best of Luck! STASH. You will get success soon.

Thank you for your support, we plan to do all we can to make the project a success.

could you please explain this strange image of their blog, do they use photo editing?
 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23736747
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What crypto do you accept in your project?

I don't recommend you to invest in this project until they tell what are they going to do with the unsold tokens!

I recommend that you should only invest in project that you are confident with, know the team well, know their projects well, due diligence, what any team going do with unsold tokens should not be one's priority in making investment decision!

You are right, I thought this project was going to rise more funds because it really looks like a good project, but they lack of investors and community(which is the most important thing in crypto-world). It is totally unreasonable that the team wants to keeps 99% of the tokens. Nobody would want to buy a token with the 99% of the supply owned by a group of people...this is the oposite of the idea of decentralization. This is a centralized project and controlled by just a few, and the team and other possible investors have to know this. If they don't do something about it, it is doomed to fail because all of the investors are going to dump their tokens and then the team would have 100% of the supply...good luck with that. Nobody ever would trust this team again.

I encourage possible investors to ask to other projects communities, investors, developers, community managers or just anyone who knows about blockchain about what is happening here, and I guarantee that they would tell you that this is totally unreasonable and you better invest in other project in which the team, actually cares about the community.
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Looking good! Digital Money! we are expecting better than other new coins from #STASH.
joined bounty for better future. i hope i will be collect better stakes till the end of Bounty.
By the way best of Luck! STASH. You will get success soon.

Thank you for your support, we plan to do all we can to make the project a success.
sr. member
Activity: 346
Merit: 250
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Cava - But you still have no plan to actually launch this network or guarantee in any way that the tokens will be used on any blockchain that supports the 'stash' network you're building?

So are new employees *only* being paid in Stash? If so, they're getting the roughest end of this deal.. the tokens are locked up until September next year and, after that time, they'll be locked to the account they're in. For them to be used, the 'community' would have to implement the Stash blockchain *and* transfer the tokens that you sold into that new blockchain. Those employees better keep their fingers crossed.


Yes part of any new developer remuneration will be STAHSPAY tokens so that their incentives are aligned with all STASHPAY token holders.

While we are building the STASHPAY.IO software it will be up to the community to launch any public blockchain that incorporates the STASHPAY.IO software. Anyone that joins the team must be committed to the long term success of the project and be focused on STAHSPAY.IO development rather than any short term distractions.
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Hi Everyone,

We thought we would clear up some of the misconceptions, provide an update and reconfirm what we have always said.

In terms of the Token-Sale while we would have liked to have sold more tokens we are reasonably pleased with the sale especially given the timing around the fork. Were also very happy with the large STASH community (4,000 +) that has been built as a result of the sale.

As we have always said we will continue to develop the project irrespective of the amount of tokens sold and soon plan to add new developers to our team.

Additionally, as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.

Our overwhelming goal is to use these tokens to increase the value of the project for the benefit of all tokens holders and the community as a whole. We plan to do this by using company tokens to attract retain and remunerate additional developers, for marketing purposes and to increase the rewards to the miners and Incentivizednodes by increasing the block reward in the STASHPAY.IO software.

This means that a large proportion of the company tokens will be used to incentivize long term holders of tokens by reducing initial circulating supply and increasing future rewards for STASHPAY.IO miners and Incentivizednodes.

It’s taken a lot of hard work to organize the token-sale and going forward we plan to continue to work hard to develop the best product we can. 

Were excited about moving the project forward and we apricate all the support from the community.


I'm glad you're clearing things up for people to better thing their fud before they speak because it's nothing more than that. All coins and tokens are trying to benefit from btc price: trading at a dirt cheap price. People seem to want more % of stash because of being afraid of devs dumping tokens so they just want their holdings to be stronger also in relation to the team's holdings. If tokens aren't going to be burnt, the initial investor should not be worried because it's because of him that the project's funding started in the first place so the initial investor should have kind of a priority due to being such a small percentage. If people investing in the ICO were less than 5% then I don't see why those unsold tokens couldn't potentially benefit initial investors that kept long term holdings in the future.

But is true, only true development and community engagement can make this token grow. I think trading will go well after stabilising a strong community. But loosing time right now by not creating this strong community and instead, shutting down the slack was not a wise decision in my opinion.



Yes, ultimately it will be the development of the project and how the community gets behind it that will determine the value of token. Overall we feel we have a pretty strong community so far and we hope to build it further over time.

We definitely would have liked to have kept the STASHPAY slack open but unfortunately due the various scams targeting prospective STASHPAY participants we had to temporarily close it.

We plan to reopen the slack once the STAHSPAY token-sale is over. We will let everyone know once its reopened.
newbie
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What crypto do you accept in your project?

I don't recommend you to invest in this project until they tell what are they going to do with the unsold tokens!

I recommend that you should only invest in project that you are confident with, know the team well, know their projects well, due diligence, what any team going do with unsold tokens should not be one's priority in making investment decision!

Also, STASH unsold tokens is stated in white paper, quote from CAVA
 as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.


We are not discussing that, we know it was stated. Well anyways, congrats devs, nobody will buy a coin where the team own 99.3% of the total supply. You just killed your own coin and investors money.

Also you bounty hunters can't say anything, you guys will receive a bunch more Stash than any Stash sold to investors. Your bounty allocation percentage is 8% of the total supply as opposed to 0.7% sold to investors. You guys are no in position to defend the indefensible. 
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 103
What crypto do you accept in your project?

I don't recommend you to invest in this project until they tell what are they going to do with the unsold tokens!

I recommend that you should only invest in project that you are confident with, know the team well, know their projects well, due diligence, what any team going do with unsold tokens should not be one's priority in making investment decision!

Also, STASH unsold tokens is stated in white paper, quote from CAVA
 as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 103
What crypto do you accept in your project?

I don't recommend you to invest in this project until they tell what are they going to do with the unsold tokens!

I recommend that you should only invest in project that you are confident with, know the team well, know their projects well, due diligence, what any team going do with unsold tokens should not be one's priority in making investment decision!
newbie
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Ok so you are basically saying that devs keeping 99.3% of the tokens is a good thing? lol I just made some estimates, they have sold around .7% of total supply(like 3.5 million tokens sold).
 
Nobody here is FUDing, i'm a Pre-ico investor of stash, why would i FUD without any reason, to hurt my own investment?

Even if they were to burn all tokens except the original team and advisors allocation %, which is 140 million tokens in total. They would still own 97.5% of all token. So you can see where im going.

If they want funds, why then just don't create a massive sell wall at ico price in the market and continue the crowdfunding there? That would be much more reasonable.
sr. member
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Hi Everyone,

We thought we would clear up some of the misconceptions, provide an update and reconfirm what we have always said.

In terms of the Token-Sale while we would have liked to have sold more tokens we are reasonably pleased with the sale especially given the timing around the fork. Were also very happy with the large STASH community (4,000 +) that has been built as a result of the sale.

As we have always said we will continue to develop the project irrespective of the amount of tokens sold and soon plan to add new developers to our team.

Additionally, as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.

Our overwhelming goal is to use these tokens to increase the value of the project for the benefit of all tokens holders and the community as a whole. We plan to do this by using company tokens to attract retain and remunerate additional developers, for marketing purposes and to increase the rewards to the miners and Incentivizednodes by increasing the block reward in the STASHPAY.IO software.

This means that a large proportion of the company tokens will be used to incentivize long term holders of tokens by reducing initial circulating supply and increasing future rewards for STASHPAY.IO miners and Incentivizednodes.

It’s taken a lot of hard work to organize the token-sale and going forward we plan to continue to work hard to develop the best product we can. 

Were excited about moving the project forward and we apricate all the support from the community.


I'm glad you're clearing things up for people to better thing their fud before they speak because it's nothing more than that. All coins and tokens are trying to benefit from btc price: trading at a dirt cheap price. People seem to want more % of stash because of being afraid of devs dumping tokens so they just want their holdings to be stronger also in relation to the team's holdings. If tokens aren't going to be burnt, the initial investor should not be worried because it's because of him that the project's funding started in the first place so the initial investor should have kind of a priority due to being such a small percentage. If people investing in the ICO were less than 5% then I don't see why those unsold tokens couldn't potentially benefit initial investors that kept long term holdings in the future.

But is true, only true development and community engagement can make this token grow. I think trading will go well after stabilising a strong community. But loosing time right now by not creating this strong community and instead, shutting down the slack was not a wise decision in my opinion.
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Cava - But you still have no plan to actually launch this network or guarantee in any way that the tokens will be used on any blockchain that supports the 'stash' network you're building?

So are new employees *only* being paid in Stash? If so, they're getting the roughest end of this deal.. the tokens are locked up until September next year and, after that time, they'll be locked to the account they're in. For them to be used, the 'community' would have to implement the Stash blockchain *and* transfer the tokens that you sold into that new blockchain. Those employees better keep their fingers crossed.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 118
Looking good! Digital Money! we are expecting better than other new coins from #STASH.
joined bounty for better future. i hope i will be collect better stakes till the end of Bounty.
By the way best of Luck! STASH. You will get success soon.
newbie
Activity: 18
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Hi Everyone,

We thought we would clear up some of the misconceptions, provide an update and reconfirm what we have always said.

In terms of the Token-Sale while we would have liked to have sold more tokens we are reasonably pleased with the sale especially given the timing around the fork. Were also very happy with the large STASH community (4,000 +) that has been built as a result of the sale.

As we have always said we will continue to develop the project irrespective of the amount of tokens sold and soon plan to add new developers to our team.

Additionally, as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.

Our overwhelming goal is to use these tokens to increase the value of the project for the benefit of all tokens holders and the community as a whole. We plan to do this by using company tokens to attract retain and remunerate additional developers, for marketing purposes and to increase the rewards to the miners and Incentivizednodes by increasing the block reward in the STASHPAY.IO software.

This means that a large proportion of the company tokens will be used to incentivize long term holders of tokens by reducing initial circulating supply and increasing future rewards for STASHPAY.IO miners and Incentivizednodes.

It’s taken a lot of hard work to organize the token-sale and going forward we plan to continue to work hard to develop the best product we can.  

Were excited about moving the project forward and we apricate all the support from the community.


Where is this 4000 + community? Where is it? Your slack is closed, you didn't even had 1000 members the day you guys decided to close your slack because the scams attempts. I remember the slack because i was there. Your slack felt alone. I don't think the 1000 members are real, they probably just suscribe to your slack channel for never coming back, if you had a BIG community as you say you have, you will have raised more than 200K USD.

Now what you say about keeping the tokens locked for 1 year to the benefit of the token holders and community is PURE bullshit. The only thing that is going to benefit the investors is a token burning session. You are only going to use these 98-99% of total supply tokens you are keeping to dump on the market after 27-09-2018 and create a selling pressure. Don't say is to the benefit of investors because the only thing a investor wants to see is their investment growing in profits, no one wants to own an asset that will only decrease in value. And no one wants to own an asset that is 99% supply controlled by a group of people. Tell us please what demand on the market you could expect from a coin with such characteristics.
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I think you should do a lot more of marketing...!
Especially since the project success is based on the community.
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Hi Everyone,

We thought we would clear up some of the misconceptions, provide an update and reconfirm what we have always said.

In terms of the Token-Sale while we would have liked to have sold more tokens we are reasonably pleased with the sale especially given the timing around the fork. Were also very happy with the large STASH community (4,000 +) that has been built as a result of the sale.

As we have always said we will continue to develop the project irrespective of the amount of tokens sold and soon plan to add new developers to our team.

Additionally, as it is clearly outlined on the stashpay website any tokens not sold during the sale will be allocated to the Company and will be sent to the STASH Vault and locked until 27-09-2018.

Our overwhelming goal is to use these tokens to increase the value of the project for the benefit of all tokens holders and the community as a whole. We plan to do this by using company tokens to attract retain and remunerate additional developers, for marketing purposes and to increase the rewards to the miners and Incentivizednodes by increasing the block reward in the STASHPAY.IO software.

This means that a large proportion of the company tokens will be used to incentivize long term holders of tokens by reducing initial circulating supply and increasing future rewards for STASHPAY.IO miners and Incentivizednodes.

It’s taken a lot of hard work to organize the token-sale and going forward we plan to continue to work hard to develop the best product we can. 

Were excited about moving the project forward and we apricate all the support from the community.
newbie
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I think the other day it will be clear, what before the time to worry?
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Any official statement on this from STASH team?
I don't know what is definition of scam, but details (including the fact that they are keeping the tokens) were publicly announced. And every investor should make good research about everything about the project they are investing in to.
Now it's up to STASH team how they will decide about the future of this project.


Agreed.. the whitepaper does lay out exactly what's going happen.. the info is pretty bleak, frankly, in that they are planning to develop something that they 'hope' the community will actually implement and then hopefully that community will honor the tokens that were sold during the ICO. It's pretty much a guaranteed loss, but they were upfront about it.

ICOs are easy to invest in, but that doesn't mean the people behind it are the people you would want to give your money too.

As with any ICO, always do your homework prior to investing, after all, its your hard work money. Also agreed, STASH did make it upfront that this project is also community driven, as stated in STASH white paper.

Community Driven? It has 0 Community aside from the 200,000 USD that has raised from investors. They have to admit their ICO is a big fail and keeping 98% of total supply is going to make things even worse, who's going to invest in this coin when is released to the market knowing the team and advisors holds 98% of the coins. IS just plain stupid, if they don't make things right NO ONE will invest in any project where anyone of the Stash team participates. NO ONE will want to work with any of the STASH team.

They either burn the unsold coins or refund investors, if they don't choose any of these two options the project is dead and they would have stolen 200,000 miserable
dollars. They will destroy their names and reputation for 200,000 USD? I will make sure of that, every time i find a project with their faces on it i will copy paste the evidence. They are done.
I do not know what is the next plan of the team? But stash team will to refund the investors that will hard to happen, i still not see any ICOs refund to the investors, sorry if i mistake. $200k not too much but enough to do many things.
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Any official statement on this from STASH team?
I don't know what is definition of scam, but details (including the fact that they are keeping the tokens) were publicly announced. And every investor should make good research about everything about the project they are investing in to.
Now it's up to STASH team how they will decide about the future of this project.


Agreed.. the whitepaper does lay out exactly what's going happen.. the info is pretty bleak, frankly, in that they are planning to develop something that they 'hope' the community will actually implement and then hopefully that community will honor the tokens that were sold during the ICO. It's pretty much a guaranteed loss, but they were upfront about it.

ICOs are easy to invest in, but that doesn't mean the people behind it are the people you would want to give your money too.

As with any ICO, always do your homework prior to investing, after all, its your hard work money. Also agreed, STASH did make it upfront that this project is also community driven, as stated in STASH white paper.

Community Driven? It has 0 Community aside from the 200,000 USD that has raised from investors. They have to admit their ICO is a big fail and keeping 98% of total supply is going to make things even worse, who's going to invest in this coin when is released to the market knowing the team and advisors holds 98% of the coins. IS just plain stupid, if they don't make things right NO ONE will invest in any project where anyone of the Stash team participates. NO ONE will want to work with any of the STASH team.

They either burn the unsold coins or refund investors, if they don't choose any of these two options the project is dead and they would have stolen 200,000 miserable
dollars. They will destroy their names and reputation for 200,000 USD? I will make sure of that, every time i find a project with their faces on it i will copy paste the evidence. They are done.

I Agree 100% this is totally unacceptable. The worst part is that the team doesn't even say anything!
newbie
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Any official statement on this from STASH team?
I don't know what is definition of scam, but details (including the fact that they are keeping the tokens) were publicly announced. And every investor should make good research about everything about the project they are investing in to.
Now it's up to STASH team how they will decide about the future of this project.


Agreed.. the whitepaper does lay out exactly what's going happen.. the info is pretty bleak, frankly, in that they are planning to develop something that they 'hope' the community will actually implement and then hopefully that community will honor the tokens that were sold during the ICO. It's pretty much a guaranteed loss, but they were upfront about it.

ICOs are easy to invest in, but that doesn't mean the people behind it are the people you would want to give your money too.

As with any ICO, always do your homework prior to investing, after all, its your hard work money. Also agreed, STASH did make it upfront that this project is also community driven, as stated in STASH white paper.

Community Driven? It has 0 Community aside from the 200,000 USD that has raised from investors. They have to admit their ICO is a big fail and keeping 98% of total supply is going to make things even worse, who's going to invest in this coin when is released to the market knowing the team and advisors holds 98% of the coins. IS just plain stupid, if they don't make things right NO ONE will invest in any project where anyone of the Stash team participates. NO ONE will want to work with any of the STASH team.

They either burn the unsold coins or refund investors, if they don't choose any of these two options the project is dead and they would have stolen 200,000 miserable
dollars. They will destroy their names and reputation for 200,000 USD? I will make sure of that, every time i find a project with their faces on it i will copy paste the evidence. They are done.
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