[ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage - page 93.

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LEARN HOW TO FUCKIN' READ YOU RETARDS!!! Angry

...you know who you are...

P.S. Have fun jacking off each other on my Ignore List too! Kiss

Edit: Let me rephrase that in case you didn't understand... LEARN HOW TO READ YOU FUCKIN' RETARDS!!! Angry

I like that funny guy with the biggest ignore list on btt. Made my day. Cheesy

Also, distribution seems to be even worther then NXT. And don't forget that devs hold 15% for private use and additional 15% for community (for a small group of volunteers I guess).

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Quote from: mig5000 on August 20, 2014, 04:48:44 AM

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Quote from: Crypto_Enthusiast on August 20, 2014, 02:31:55 AM

Well, to be fair - 'In order of crowdsale contribution' can mean either by date or volume. Easily misunderstood.

Again, this was not mentioned before I paid.

Apologies for the confusion. To make it clear to you and to everyone else, those able to try out DriveShare will be go in order of when they contributed as opposed to how much they sent in.

so gross. Had I known about this one I would never had sent the amount I did. Is there any way to get a refund out of this mess.

I liked the idea of farming this thing and saw potential but really giving the same benefits to someone who contributed 2$ to someone who contributed 2000$ is just fucking dumb. Had I known that before I would have sent 1$ very early and bought 2k of hardware instead. I really really feel abused here.

Fuck, +1, another shit from the shady devs. Smells like some discrimination. IMHO, the fairest way is to provice beta access to ALL crowdsale participants at the same time.

Updated: for those who don't get it I will try to make it clear. It means that people who "invested" let's say 25 BTC will be instamining coins with huge HDD farms and dumping shitload of coins to death. This coin is doomed going this way.

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Wow am I glad I didn't invest in this one. Liked the idea but saw from the get go it wasn't wise to invest. With their ridiculous goal of 9800 BTC it was obvious that the interest of investors wasn't a primary objective of these guys. And now see what happens, must be one of the worst ROI of recently launched coins. Even Syscoin with a 100% crap launch had a decent ROI.

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Quote from: mthompson362 on August 20, 2014, 03:03:39 AM

Quote from: Crypto_Enthusiast on August 20, 2014, 02:31:55 AM

Well, to be fair - 'In order of crowdsale contribution' can mean either by date or volume. Easily misunderstood.

Again, this was not mentioned before I paid.

Apologies for the confusion. To make it clear to you and to everyone else, those able to try out DriveShare will be go in order of when they contributed as opposed to how much they sent in.

so gross. Had I known about this one I would never had sent the amount I did. Is there any way to get a refund out of this mess.

I liked the idea of farming this thing and saw potential but really giving the same benefits to someone who contributed 2$ to someone who contributed 2000$ is just fucking dumb. Had I known that before I would have sent 1$ very early and bought 2k of hardware instead. I really really feel abused here.

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Quote from: super3 on August 20, 2014, 03:06:58 AM

Can I be straight with you? I'm not angry or anything, I just want to be direct.

You can be absolutely straight with ME.

Quote from: super3 on August 20, 2014, 03:06:58 AM

We made it clear in our terms that this is not an investment.

Then what is it? Every man that gave you money did it with the only reason - is to get profit, otherwise it's just donation. It wasn't meant to be donation.

Quote from: super3 on August 20, 2014, 03:06:58 AM

I could double the price right now and it would still be just as meaningless.

Oh, sure you could... with OUR money.

Quote from: super3 on August 20, 2014, 03:06:58 AM

Mislead? It seems as if you didn't read the terms attached to the crowdsale page which addressed many of your points.

Here's your lovely terms: http://storj.io/CrowdsaleTerms.pdf

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The goal of the Storj team is to raise up to 9,800 BTC (or ~$6,000,000 at current exchange rates). This revenue will be allocated in the following categories:
- Reimbursement of prior expenses
- Salaries for full time contributors and payments to freelancers
- Further development of Metadisk, our web application software
- Development of DriveMiner, our storage and bandwidth renting software
- Research and development for the protocol, applications, and blockchain technologies
- Marketing, advertising, media, and articles
- Community Funding
- Legal counsel

Did you pay Bittrex to bring SJCX to the exchange? No (you even couldn't update the topic about adding it to polo so more people could buy it).
Did you start twitter/facebook campaign? No (didn't even try).
Did you do SOMETHING to bring profit people who invested in your business and supported it? No (instead of it you are coming here and like saying us "I'm the boss and I don't a shit").

You just gave money and don't give a flying fuck about them anymore. Sad, but true.

TL;DR: I don't hate the dev and I don't regret about my "investment". I want devs to do what they supposed to do.

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Quote from: profitofthegods on August 20, 2014, 03:14:30 AM

Not sure if this has already been raised, but is Storj getting added to coinmarketcap.com? It would be great to see it there - personally I like to use that site to get a quick overview of the coins I own first thing in the morning, and of course it may also help more people to discover Storj.

Was actually going to see about contacting them earlier today. You made me remember that they had a BitcoinTalk thread so I just shot Gliss a reply.

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Quote from: profitofthegods on August 20, 2014, 03:14:30 AM

Not sure if this has already been raised, but is Storj getting added to coinmarketcap.com? It would be great to see it there - personally I like to use that site to get a quick overview of the coins I own first thing in the morning, and of course it may also help more people to discover Storj.

Yeah I think we just have to ask in CMC topic, and provide an API of sorts. Little iffy because we have create and shuffle the coins leftover from the crowdsale to the correct addresses so we can lock the asset, which of course affects available supply. I've heard some feedback from users who are concerned with the devs holding a ton of coins. I actually agree with this, and trying to figure out with the counterparty guys how to do timelock transactions like in Bitcoin, so the coins can't be accessed until a certain date.

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Not sure if this has already been raised, but is Storj getting added to coinmarketcap.com? It would be great to see it there - personally I like to use that site to get a quick overview of the coins I own first thing in the morning, and of course it may also help more people to discover Storj.

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Quote from: mthompson362 on August 20, 2014, 03:00:17 AM

Quote from: williamj2543 on August 20, 2014, 02:51:37 AM

Very true, as soon as your driveshare is released the popularity will come rolling in. I seriously would use this driveshare thing, its revolutionary, I can't believe someone hadn't thought of it before. Would we get paid more or less based on the speed of out drives? And ssd vs hdd?

The two cost factors for someone getting paid in SJCX and someone renting hard drive space is space and bandwidth. Storing more data and having a faster bandwidth for file transfer/access will make how much SJCX you get paid increase.

Quote from: newuser01 on August 20, 2014, 02:55:16 AM

So how does one farm/mine this?

Is the mining software closed source?

DriveShare is an application of ours that will be released in the near future. It allows users to rent out their excess hard drive space (i.e. space on their drives that they are not using) to the Storj network that other users will be able to store their own files on through Metadisk. How much SJCX you get paid for this farming is directly related to amount of data stored and bandwidth provided.

Also, we are completely open source and will remain that way. You can find our code here as well as see our progress: github.com/storj

thanks

I'm looking forward to renting out hard drive space.

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Can I be straight with you? I'm not angry or anything, I just want to be direct.

We made it clear in our terms that this is not an investment. We are developing software, and will continue to do so. We are not responsible for those who decide this is a fun time to pump an dump. With a 1 BTC order depth I'd hardly call that a loss. I could double the price right now and it would still be just as meaningless.

Mislead? It seems as if you didn't read the terms attached to the crowdsale page which addressed many of your points.

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Quote from: Crypto_Enthusiast on August 20, 2014, 02:31:55 AM

Well, to be fair - 'In order of crowdsale contribution' can mean either by date or volume. Easily misunderstood.

Again, this was not mentioned before I paid.

Apologies for the confusion. To make it clear to you and to everyone else, those able to try out DriveShare will be go in order of when they contributed as opposed to how much they sent in.

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Quote from: williamj2543 on August 20, 2014, 02:51:37 AM

Very true, as soon as your driveshare is released the popularity will come rolling in. I seriously would use this driveshare thing, its revolutionary, I can't believe someone hadn't thought of it before. Would we get paid more or less based on the speed of out drives? And ssd vs hdd?

The two cost factors for someone getting paid in SJCX and someone renting hard drive space is space and bandwidth. Storing more data and having a faster bandwidth for file transfer/access will make how much SJCX you get paid increase.

Quote from: newuser01 on August 20, 2014, 02:55:16 AM

So how does one farm/mine this?

Is the mining software closed source?

DriveShare is an application of ours that will be released in the near future. It allows users to rent out their excess hard drive space (i.e. space on their drives that they are not using) to the Storj network that other users will be able to store their own files on through Metadisk. How much SJCX you get paid for this farming is directly related to amount of data stored and bandwidth provided.

Also, we are completely open source and will remain that way. You can find our code here as well as see our progress: github.com/storj

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So how does one farm/mine this?

Is the mining software closed source?

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Get ready for PrimeDice Sig Campaign!

Very true, as soon as your driveshare is released the popularity will come rolling in. I seriously would use this driveshare thing, its revolutionary, I can't believe someone hadn't thought of it before. Would we get paid more or less based on the speed of out drives? And ssd vs hdd?

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Quote from: J9901 on August 20, 2014, 02:39:54 AM

I think everyone needs to just be patient at this point. imo i believe driveshare prototype will be ready in about a week give or take a few days. Yes, a very small amount of people are selling off at a loss and that's their prerogative. Not everyone is in this to make a quick buck, some are real investors who believe that if this technology works, it will absolutely explode. Looking at Poloniex SJCX/BTC, and seeing people selling at a loss is not concerning. If you pay attention, the sell offs are very low volume. These may just be people expecting for quick profit soon after release and they have every right to do so. All im saying is, once even just the prototype of Driveshare is complete and works, it's basically a done deal. The technology will be proven. From there it will be all about fine-tuning the product and continue to improve it in time.

Storj's potential is way too great to treat like just another 'ordinary' coin.

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Thank you for the words of support for our project! While the crowdsale was going on, we wanted to make it very clear that we were not guaranteeing any sort of profit out of contributing to the crowdsale nor should contributors expect one immediately after the crowdsale ended. We apologize to anyone that we did not make this clear to and expected to make a quick profit the first day SJCX was available for trading. The network will be growing steadily as we make gradual changes and as the userbase grows. Your reply is really what message we have been trying to get across; we appreciate it.

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I think everyone needs to just be patient at this point. imo i believe driveshare prototype will be ready in about a week give or take a few days. Yes, a very small amount of people are selling off at a loss and that's their prerogative. Not everyone is in this to make a quick buck, some are real investors who believe that if this technology works, it will absolutely explode. OR maybe they need the BTC and hop on to another very short term investment? Looking at Poloniex SJCX/BTC, and seeing people selling at a loss is not concerning. If you pay attention, the sell offs are very low volume. These may just be people who expected for quick profit immediately after release, but since that didnt happen, they're selling and they have every right to do so. All im saying is, once even just the prototype of Driveshare is complete and works, it's basically a done deal. The technology will be proven. From there it will be all about fine-tuning the product and continue to improve it in time.

Storj's potential is way too great to treat like just another 'ordinary' coin.

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Quote from: mthompson362 on August 20, 2014, 02:19:28 AM

Quote from: Crypto_Enthusiast on August 20, 2014, 02:11:52 AM

Devs,

When looking to crowd fund STORJ, it was made clear that one of the major benefits of being an early adopter would be that we would get early access to farming.

However, now you decide to change your tone and instead advise that the largest investors will get access first. This was never mentioned prior to the crowdsale closing.

You also advised that farming would be available to crowd funders 'shortly after crowddundiung closes', and again, you change your tone to advise it's 75% complete.

I am very disappointed & somewhat angry for being mislead, you sold it as a product that would essentially allow early adopters to farm early with no mention of favouritism for larger investors.

As a result, STORJ is now trading for well below ICO on exchanges so not only have we been mislead - but also we have lost out financially.

This type of behaviour is very disappointing, people do not like & will not forget being lied to.

/Rant.

There was never any mention that the largest contributors would get early access first. Anybody who said this is not spreading the truth. Ability to farm will go in order of time of their contribution was sent, regardless of if they were a large or small contributor.

As for the shortly after the crowdsale close, we have been diligently working on DriveShare. We refrained from saying 'immediately after' because there was no guarantee of when exactly it would be done. While we may have varying ideas of what 'shortly after' really means, it very readily will be coming out soon - we are working on it as hard as we can. You can follow our progress here github.com/storj.

Well, to be fair - 'In order of crowdsale contribution' can mean either by date or volume. Easily misunderstood.

Again, this was not mentioned before I paid.

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Quote from: Crypto_Enthusiast on August 20, 2014, 02:11:52 AM

Devs,

When looking to crowd fund STORJ, it was made clear that one of the major benefits of being an early adopter would be that we would get early access to farming.

However, now you decide to change your tone and instead advise that the largest investors will get access first. This was never mentioned prior to the crowdsale closing.

You also advised that farming would be available to crowd funders 'shortly after crowddundiung closes', and again, you change your tone to advise it's 75% complete.

I am very disappointed & somewhat angry for being mislead, you sold it as a product that would essentially allow early adopters to farm early with no mention of favouritism for larger investors.

As a result, STORJ is now trading for well below ICO on exchanges so not only have we been mislead - but also we have lost out financially.

This type of behaviour is very disappointing, people do not like & will not forget being lied to.

/Rant.

There was never any mention that the largest contributors would get early access first. Anybody who said this is not spreading the truth. Ability to farm will go in order of time of their contribution was sent, regardless of if they were a large or small contributor.

As for the shortly after the crowdsale close, we have been diligently working on DriveShare. We refrained from saying 'immediately after' because there was no guarantee of when exactly it would be done. While we may have varying ideas of what 'shortly after' really means, it very readily will be coming out soon - we are working on it as hard as we can. You can follow our progress here github.com/storj.

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Devs,

When looking to crowd fund STORJ, it was made clear that one of the major benefits of being an early adopter would be that we would get early access to farming.

However, now you decide to change your tone and instead advise that the largest investors will get access first. This was never mentioned prior to the crowdsale closing.

You also advised that farming would be available to crowd funders 'shortly after crowddundiung closes', and again, you change your tone to advise it's 75% complete.

I am very disappointed & somewhat angry for being mislead, you sold it as a product that would essentially allow early adopters to farm early with no mention of favouritism for larger investors.

As a result, STORJ is now trading for well below ICO on exchanges so not only have we been mislead - but also we have lost out financially.

This type of behaviour is very disappointing, people do not like & will not forget being lied to.

/Rant.

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Quote from: mthompson362 on August 20, 2014, 01:52:09 AM

SJCX will find its use and therefore real world value once DriveShare is released.

Please DO NOT change the announced plans in regard to how we proceed (especially in relation to Driveshare) due to IRRELEVANT posts on bitcointalk.

Nothing is being changed. Anybody who contributed to the crowdsale should have realized that DriveShare is SJCX's first implementation for use.

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