Topic: [ANN] Syscoin- FINAL 2.0 LAUNCHED! *ENCRYPTION, MARKETPLACE, BTC INTEGRATION* - page 177. (Read 582967 times)

You might be right, but still these guys have done so much more than most in cryptos. I think probably a professional experienced business leader/manger might be a good addition to the team. Someone paid in not only BTC but in syscoin that has a stake in seeing this grow.

Thus far they have done well overall with questions and aswers, team is knowledgeable, but maybe a someone with not only programming knowledge but business real world experience would be a lovely addition to the team.

Just my two cents.

Now that is actually a good answer ! But in my experience,  it is not about technical features, it's about perceived user experience. Suppose that someone make Syscoin2,
all the code copied and pasted and just changes logos and beautiful wallet. But they make a release without problems, if some one makes  negative comments,  the main (only ? ) developer don't call him necrophiliac or something like that (a post of some poor random guy that made me laugh),  almost every response wasn't 'professional' , suppose they  hit every deadline even if the proposed feature is "change font size"; i can assure you that coin will prevail even with less features.

Your coder is good, but he isn't as good as he thinks he is; from a software architect perspective i can bet he didn't comply with most basic requirements for software development management , you can notice that with just one review of the code. You can argue that it was because he didn't have time, or he didn't care for standards, i don't know, it's irrelevant.  But his attitude (and all your team  at the beginning)  made clear that you guys already reached their prime, that all other works are crap and you are the peak on software development. That is far from truth.

If only you can learn and follow more experienced teams you would know what i am talking about

In my opinion that is the reason for the low price, not the technical merits (which we should see in next releases) but management issues that makes experienced investors to think that your team is not capable to handle a big project.

When i was  younger i was arrogant too, and some team more experienced hijacked my work (not an Android project in case you wonder) and believe me my work was technically better it didn't matter. I don't blame them now, i have learned; i hope you learn before this sh** happens to you.

Like with anything in the Crypto Scene it's mixed information or someone not fully understanding, reading incorrect information or  something or simply trying to FUD.

If you need to ask a question, ask us and we'll respond with an honest answer to the best of our ability. In Short we are working on the release of 0.1.5 which is currently within the Release Candidate Stage then it's into the Syscoin Promotional Campaign #2 towards the last week of this month.

BTC raising, let's panic buy SYS back :-)

Its all out there Ralph.

Hi Ralph,

A massive amount has been in development since launch and the initial issues that arose, please visit our Blog for more information on the key items that have been implemented since the launch of Syscoin http://syscoin.org/blog/

You can also follow us on twitter @syscoin to follow any additional updates, or news. The website also has links to our forum and reddit to follow the progress.

Any team that attempt this (and their welcome to) would be somewhat reliant on us to keep their fork working since Syscoin is an entirely different animal than any other altcoin. Additionally, we have many new services coming, they'd always be one step behind at the least. We welcome this though, it's what open source and competition is all about. It's just highly unlikely such an effort would succeed.

Yeah, exactly you should have said that. That is my point.

As i told in other posts i didn't (couldn't ? ) take it personal, what frustrated me more is the attitude, it's like you really can't learn how to deal with public relations and it is ironic that you as an official member of the project refers others work in that terms, after all there were more trouble with your wallet code than most android 'crap' wallets that i know of.

And most of that 'crap' is actually working with promised features.

It surprises me that you hired someone to review wallets, shouldn't your team do that task ? after all you guys are the only who knows what to implement and how.

As i said, if you guys had some minimum experience to manage a project big enough you would never ever deal with issues the way you deal with them, and some times it seems you didn't learn. And it is not just PR it's about project management, hit dead lines etc etc.

I know you guys mean well, but you shoot yourselves in the foot in every given opportunity,  and what is worse try to fix the mistakes with more mistakes.

I really hope that you can manage your act and succeed and learn.

This is inaccurate. All four promised features were delivered at launch (markets, certs, aliases, data). There was an issue with service fee regen that caused forks and required an emergency patch which was applied in <48hrs. The following week we reintroduced the regenerated fees AND enabled merged mining.

So yes, we delivered everything we promised but there was a small issue which we fixed quickly and we've not had any issues since. The network has also grown astronomically since launch.


Right now they hold 750btc + 250btc of SYS the team purchased as "earlier buy support" which equates to roughly 60mil SYS although that is not an exact figure as we've not received the exact number from them despite asking.

Madmartyk,

Full information regarding that can be found via the Moolah Blog  http://blog.moolah.io/2014/09/30/syscoin-fund-distribution-update/

Hey Dano, quick question.   How much of the ICO is Moolah still holding?

There are multiple android crypto currency wallets available for open source usage and for code purchase on multiple different marketplaces. I would like to know why you are assuming the code I am speaking about is your code? I did not link to any specific code so please let me know how you are inferring that the code which I'm referring to is yours?

In either case you're right using the term "crap "– was unprofessional what I should've said was we have hired a professional android developer they reviewed one of the most popular android wallets for crypto currency's and determined that it was not worth investing more time into that CodeBase. Given the scope of syscoin, it's features, and the services we want to deliver in the wallet it would be more prudent to start again from scratch.

In my opinion the biggest risk is that some experienced team is waiting for these guys to deliver all features and then hijack the code, add minor features and make  a good release. If that happens will be the end for syscoin because there will be a copycat with better support and better experience for users. Welcome to the darkside of free software. I even think that's the reason of the perceived low price.


 

According with moolah's escrow of syscoin ico they should have delivered a working wallet with 4 promised services but it never happened.They also advertised about a well experienced team but in reality other shitcoins are having good marketing than syscoin .Can you really ever trust someone again after they've cheated on you? The trust is gone and will probably never be regained.

Small update article :

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/syscoin-release-candidate-2-requires-additional-testing-cool-stuff-coming-this-month

I agree, they are good guys and i know dano didn't mean it, in fact i didn't take it personal as my post implies. But i have a lot experience in corporate software development and i  know these guys have a lot of potential but they aren't as good as they think they are,  specially the main coder, at least the others had a dose of humility.
But the fact is that if any of them have minimum experience in the sector they wouldn't made all the mistakes they did, even if at least one of them worked in an IT costumer call center, would know how to handle  some communication issues; they made all errors on the book.
Not to mention all mistakes in project management, development, QA etc etc.

As i said, they had a lot of potential but they aren't professionals yet. My guess is that if somehow they manage to deliver everything they promised ( i really hope they do); some more experienced team will just hijack the code and that will be it.

I hope i am wrong because i know the feeling to invest a lot of time on a project and at the end being hijacked for lack of experience.

I wish you guys all luck, after all crypto world is just starting and there is space for every coin

They are good guys, I am sure they didnt want to underestimate anyones work. That was poor choice of words I agree. But they could elaborate existing Android wallets VS their vision of the wallet.
For investors the biggest mistake is to Sell or Buy under the influence of emotions. I think you made mistake by dumping at this moment.

@Dano and the team , you could set a bit faster pace if you can, the developement shouldnt slow down.

Thanks @dano I appreciate the clarity and I'm sure others do too. I was picking up a hint of anti-Moolah sentiment from others on the team. The Mintpal situation is unfortunate but it's not too late for them to turn things around, and Syscoin can still benefit from the association.

This is my first post, because i am one of the developers of one of the 'crap' Android wallet you refer. I had a lot of hope on your team, i was one of the initial investors and followed the evolution of the coin from the start, all bugs,  botched releases, bad QA control, everything. And never complained once, never.
And after all that, you have the nerve to call crap to others work ? Really guys ? i sold all my coins today because you really have shown that you are just a group of childish amateurs. Also your 'team' of developers consists on just one person, you can see exactly the same style in all code. With such investment you asked from people you just have one person that does most (all ? ) coding .

You delete posts that offends your work but you are happy to call crap to other software, that i am sure you even don't understand it how hypocrite is that ?

To investors : i really hope coin succeed and you win some money, i am out of here

The only requirement is an already strong programming and general technical ability, and a real willingness and ability to learn things fast.