[ANN] TheFreeMarket - Launch (est) 21st June 2013 [BTC/LTC/PPC] - page 2.

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: tysat on May 01, 2013, 07:58:58 AM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on May 01, 2013, 12:21:33 AM

Quote from: CompNsci on April 30, 2013, 11:31:09 PM

Why are you restricting firearms sales?

If we could viably ensure/trust that the buyer would use the firearm/gun for something other than bringing harm to another human being then we would not restrict this type of item, however it would be impossible for us to do so, hence the restriction. Its not an issue with the gun/firearm itself.

No drugs then either!

They are not restricted, chemical weapons are naturally restricted.

If someone wishes to purchase and use a substance that will alter their own body or mind, that is the decision of the buyer.
If people wish to buy weapons there are other platforms available to purchase them with Bitcoin online.

tysat

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Keep it real

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on May 01, 2013, 12:21:33 AM

Quote from: CompNsci on April 30, 2013, 11:31:09 PM

Why are you restricting firearms sales?

If we could viably ensure/trust that the buyer would use the firearm/gun for something other than bringing harm to another human being then we would not restrict this type of item, however it would be impossible for us to do so, hence the restriction. Its not an issue with the gun/firearm itself.

No drugs then either!

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: CompNsci on April 30, 2013, 11:31:09 PM

Why are you restricting firearms sales?

If we could viably ensure/trust that the buyer would use the firearm/gun for something other than bringing harm to another human being then we would not restrict this type of item, however it would be impossible for us to do so, hence the restriction. Its not an issue with the gun/firearm itself.

CompNsci

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Why are you restricting firearms sales?

flubbr

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I'm interested in this new market as well. I have used the Silk Road extensively, only on the buyer side, and throughout my time there, noticed a handful of things that I didn't like.

Reading through the first post, it seems like The Free Market intends to address most of my complaints about Silk Road. I really hope that some established vendors from other TOR marketplaces take a chance with The Free Market as I believe this new marketplace has potential.

Although it is fairly similar to other TOR marketplaces, I believe that another marketplace, with some innovative new features, can only be a good thing.

I've always felt that an online revolution is coming, with the anonymity of TOR, and the implementation of another marketplace only adds to this.

I support The Free Market.

cosmoo

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TheFreeMarket, don't feed trolls. Let your project development and market reaction speak for you Wink

Best of luck! With the troubles SR has been having, getting extra markets on TOR can only be a boon for this revolution we've got going. I'm interested in seeing PPcoin's introduction into the market; any bit of work helps, and hell any bit of work is profitable in this game, look at feathercoin Tongue

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread for sure!

gweedo

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Quote from: despected on April 30, 2013, 04:30:31 PM

gweedo, with your logic we would still using brick sized phones since obviously building off of an idea that already exists is "doomed to fail from the beginning". I like the idea of this site and I am looking forward to seeing it.

So I will get pass the fact you are a newbie and this is your first post and say we are talking about two different things. See your talking about taking a product or site and pivoting it to a different thing. They are just taking the original model and doing the same thing.

gweedo

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Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 01:24:41 PM

Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 01:12:47 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:33:25 PM

So what is the direct copy of Silkroad, the fact that we will allow contraband and an escrow system. You tell us other areas that we have copied and I will explain how we believe we have improved on that area.

That would be a simple way to go about things.

Not greedy at all, would happily do it for free if it was sustainable on advertising revenues.

Ok you have an onsite lottery that is the only difference.

Ok so what functionality is a direct clone of Silkroad? Or do they all work in the same manner or have you seen and had a play on the platform to decide its a direct clone?

We are also developing methods to make it easier to access than having to download TOR and go trough the manual route (as the idea of TOR and cryptos still confuse many average Joe's) If we can bring more people to the crypto economy this way then surely that is a success in itself for everyone connected to the current economy. Also to help increase adoption, all prices are displayed in your selected local currency and not BTC0.2 for an item to make it easier for the buyer to understand, without having to do the math on just how much they are paying for said item.

Oh no your going to have it calculate local currencies in bitcoin... If you can't see your a direct clone, then your going to have a big up hill battle in this space.

despected

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gweedo, with your logic we would still using brick sized phones since obviously building off of an idea that already exists is "doomed to fail from the beginning". I like the idea of this site and I am looking forward to seeing it.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rK-Q0dtVwg4/TZsybl985iI/AAAAAAAAAHg/vLoNZ6M_tTw/s1600/tumblr_litpa54yPb1qzy4ewo1_500.jpg

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 01:51:29 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 01:40:20 PM

That's one very small improvement, but still an improvement, yes or no? We do have many more that will improve the user experience for both the buyer and vendor.

Also what is your opinion on increasing the accessibility? Any feedback is good feedback if it is constructive.

Every new venture is an uphill battle, that we do not deny but one battle we shall enjoy taking on Wink

LMAO so if I built a Satoshi Dice clone and gave some prices in local currencies that is an "improvement" but still a direct copy of Satoshi Dice.

Accessibility isn't an issue thou so I have no opinion about it, since your dealing with contraband items those people have only one option to do it thru tor, or not.

Every new venture is an uphill battle but if you don't see your a direct clone your going to have a big battle in that space, against a big whale "Silk Road". Look at Atlantis same concept and it is failing, so yeah I doubt you win this battle.

As stated a small improvement on that part of the concept and one of many changes that makes us different.

With regards to TOR being the only option, agreed however taking steps out of the process to help the average person discover a broader world is for the better. Instead of "download tor, find the domain, ensure its the correct domain, connect and browse" how about, go to the same torrent site I always use search TheFreeMarket Official (We already have these accounts registered) download their app/browser click and go.

gweedo

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Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 01:40:20 PM

That's one very small improvement, but still an improvement, yes or no? We do have many more that will improve the user experience for both the buyer and vendor.

Also what is your opinion on increasing the accessibility? Any feedback is good feedback if it is constructive.

Every new venture is an uphill battle, that we do not deny but one battle we shall enjoy taking on Wink

LMAO so if I built a Satoshi Dice clone and gave some prices in local currencies that is an "improvement" but still a direct copy of Satoshi Dice.

Accessibility isn't an issue thou so I have no opinion about it, since your dealing with contraband items those people have only one option to do it thru tor, or not.

Every new venture is an uphill battle but if you don't see your a direct clone your going to have a big battle in that space, against a big whale "Silk Road". Look at Atlantis same concept and it is failing, so yeah I doubt you win this battle.

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 01:27:15 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 01:24:41 PM

Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 01:12:47 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:33:25 PM

So what is the direct copy of Silkroad, the fact that we will allow contraband and an escrow system. You tell us other areas that we have copied and I will explain how we believe we have improved on that area.

That would be a simple way to go about things.

Not greedy at all, would happily do it for free if it was sustainable on advertising revenues.

Ok you have an onsite lottery that is the only difference.

Ok so what functionality is a direct clone of Silkroad? Or do they all work in the same manner or have you seen and had a play on the platform to decide its a direct clone?

We are also developing methods to make it easier to access than having to download TOR and go trough the manual route (as the idea of TOR and cryptos still confuse many average Joe's) If we can bring more people to the crypto economy this way then surely that is a success in itself for everyone connected to the current economy. Also to help increase adoption, all prices are displayed in your selected local currency and not BTC0.2 for an item to make it easier for the buyer to understand, without having to do the math on just how much they are paying for said item.

Oh no your going to have it calculate local currencies in bitcoin... If you can't see your a direct clone, then your going to have a big up hill battle in this space.

That's one very small improvement, but still an improvement, yes or no? We do have many more that will improve the user experience for both the buyer and vendor.

Also what is your opinion on increasing the accessibility? Any feedback is good feedback if it is constructive.

Every new venture is an uphill battle, that we do not deny but one battle we shall enjoy taking on Wink

gweedo

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Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:15:41 PM

Gweedo at least we agree on something, however had everyone listened to everyone on these boards and not made an attempt at improving on an idea then maybe the whole Crypto economy would be in a much worse place.

First off, I wasn't calling myself a troll, so yeah. Second there is a different between improving and creating a direct clone. Instead you should have done research on silk road, and saw where there weak and build up around that. Instead you just directly copied there model, and lowered the fees creating your insecure platform. You were greedy and thought, if silk road can do it, I can do it too. Wrong... Sadly you wasted your time on a projected doomed to fail from the beginning. Call me a troll or whatever, but you can't deny anything I have said above.

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 01:12:47 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:33:25 PM

So what is the direct copy of Silkroad, the fact that we will allow contraband and an escrow system. You tell us other areas that we have copied and I will explain how we believe we have improved on that area.

That would be a simple way to go about things.

Not greedy at all, would happily do it for free if it was sustainable on advertising revenues.

Ok you have an onsite lottery that is the only difference.

Ok so what functionality is a direct clone of Silkroad? Or do they all work in the same manner or have you seen and had a play on the platform to decide its a direct clone?

We are also developing methods to make it easier to access than having to download TOR and go trough the manual route (as the idea of TOR and cryptos still confuse many average Joe's) If we can bring more people to the crypto economy this way then surely that is a success in itself for everyone connected to the current economy. Also to help increase adoption, all prices are displayed in your selected local currency and not BTC0.2 for an item to make it easier for the buyer to understand, without having to do the math on just how much they are paying for said item.

gweedo

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Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:33:25 PM

So what is the direct copy of Silkroad, the fact that we will allow contraband and an escrow system. You tell us other areas that we have copied and I will explain how we believe we have improved on that area.

That would be a simple way to go about things.

Not greedy at all, would happily do it for free if it was sustainable on advertising revenues.

Ok you have an onsite lottery that is the only difference.

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 12:28:24 PM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 12:15:41 PM

Gweedo at least we agree on something, however had everyone listened to everyone on these boards and not made an attempt at improving on an idea then maybe the whole Crypto economy would be in a much worse place.

First off, I wasn't calling myself a troll, so yeah. Second there is a different between improving and creating a direct clone. Instead you should have done research on silk road, and saw where there weak and build up around that. Instead you just directly copied there model, and lowered the fees creating your insecure platform. You were greedy and thought, if silk road can do it, I can do it too. Wrong... Sadly you wasted your time on a projected doomed to fail from the beginning. Call me a troll or whatever, but you can't deny anything I have said above.

So what is the direct copy of Silkroad, the fact that we will allow contraband and an escrow system. You tell us other areas that we have copied and I will explain how we believe we have improved on that area.

That would be a simple way to go about things.

Not greedy at all, would happily do it for free if it was sustainable on advertising revenues.

TheFreeMarket

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Quote from: nango on April 30, 2013, 12:03:12 PM

Always happy to have another option to buy / sell items... so long as we don't entirely dilute the market (Bitmit looks to have such little buyer activity). Also... $10 fee... perhaps make a fee based on what amt you can sell?

Ex:
$0 fee - limited to 0.5 BTC-value items
$5 fee - limited to 1 BTC-value items
$10 fee - no limit on value

That way small time sellers can get in and perhaps start establishing a base - then upgrade later, or choose to directly contribute collected coin towards fee.

The $10 (We shall more than likely review this) fee is there to purchase a vendors account to prevent scammers signing up to attempt to scam, this is refundable once the vendor has achieved a positive feedback rating of 10.

Gweedo at least we agree on something, however had everyone listened to everyone on these boards and not made an attempt at improving on an idea then maybe the whole Crypto economy would be in a much worse place.

We could easily strip everything that is considered contraband out of the system and launch on the clearnet because a few people had doubts it could work. If everyone thought that existing thoughts and opinions were 100% correct the earth would still be considered flat.

gweedo

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Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 11:57:33 AM

Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 11:40:31 AM

Quote from: TheFreeMarket on April 30, 2013, 11:31:38 AM

We are not a direct clone of other sites offering an "anonymous marketplace". We are aiming to build on the original idea.

You are a direct clone, you just offer alt-coins, and Atlantis does that already and they are failing. Did you do any research into the marketplace? I am guessing not the reason Silk Road works is cause of trust that has been built up for over 2 years.

As stated above you are a bit of a troll

I am the troll, yet everyone in this thread agreed with me, think about it.

nango

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Always happy to have another option to buy / sell items... so long as we don't entirely dilute the market (Bitmit looks to have such little buyer activity). Also... $10 fee... perhaps make a fee based on what amt you can sell?

Ex:
$0 fee - limited to 0.5 BTC-value items
$5 fee - limited to 1 BTC-value items
$10 fee - no limit on value

That way small time sellers can get in and perhaps start establishing a base - then upgrade later, or choose to directly contribute collected coin towards fee.

Isokivi

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Items flashing here available at btctrinkets.com

Quote from: gweedo on April 30, 2013, 11:17:48 AM

WOW what a let down on your announcement, this aint going to change anything...

+1
Sorry, but nothing relevant to my interests either.

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