Topic: [ANN] [TRON] Positron Technologies - Upcoming Project Direction Change - page 35. (Read 324016 times)

Quote from: fartbags on June 11, 2015, 02:44:03 PM

Still not really liking this coin much anymore. Insider trading chat rooms for rich people...

Cryptocoins aren't money. These coins have no value. It's just a fun little collectible that people like to trade. So insider trading is perfectly legal. But if you do something strange like make 1 share = to 1 coin. Then insider trading would be illegal in this case.

The business plan sounds cool but highly unlikely to succeed as there's little need for incubators in the cryptocoin space. Cryptocoin developers don't like traditional company/investment models. They like to do the new ICO thing. They don't need help with that. They can network on forums and find other devs to work with. Cryptocoin developers are highly skilled computer people. I don't seem them really wanting anything from TRON.

Maybe CryptoWest could change my mind on this business model... It's a cool model and with more details I might like it. Could you list a few things that would make any developer want use this sort of incubator system?

I see this failing hard on that business model side. I see this working well as a pump n dump because of their rich people insider trading group.

I concur!

I'm part of those dev networks you mention, for a couple years now. There is no lack of dev interest or ideas here. That said, I'm more interested in normal, non super-beard crypto ideas. More details will come! If you don't like me or my project, please sell. I want to get rid of as many doubters as possible, then show the jewels.

I could never sell a cryptocoin for the next 5 years. There is too much potential. If your business plan works out, investors today could see 1000x or more returns on their initial investments.

I would warn you that there's many many many people doing this same sort of business model. You can't be sneaky with what you're doing or you will fail. You have to be 100% transparent to eliminate all corruption with your idea. I think the term people use is automatic or decentralized audit trail. Meaning a computer system should be able to audit you in real time to make sure there's no corruption. To get to that point you need to be 100% transparent.

That's the plan.

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Quote from: cryptowest on June 11, 2015, 02:29:36 PM

Quote from: cryptowest on June 11, 2015, 02:29:36 PM

Still not really liking this coin much anymore. Insider trading chat rooms for rich people...

Cryptocoins aren't money. These coins have no value. It's just a fun little collectible that people like to trade. So insider trading is perfectly legal. But if you do something strange like make 1 share = to 1 coin. Then insider trading would be illegal in this case.

The business plan sounds cool but highly unlikely to succeed as there's little need for incubators in the cryptocoin space. Cryptocoin developers don't like traditional company/investment models. They like to do the new ICO thing. They don't need help with that. They can network on forums and find other devs to work with. Cryptocoin developers are highly skilled computer people. I don't seem them really wanting anything from TRON.

Maybe CryptoWest could change my mind on this business model... It's a cool model and with more details I might like it. Could you list a few things that would make any developer want use this sort of incubator system?

I see this failing hard on that business model side. I see this working well as a pump n dump because of their rich people insider trading group.

I concur!

I'm part of those dev networks you mention, for a couple years now. There is no lack of dev interest or ideas here. That said, I'm more interested in normal, non super-beard crypto ideas. More details will come! If you don't like me or my project, please sell. I want to get rid of as many doubters as possible, then show the jewels.

I could never sell a cryptocoin for the next 5 years. There is too much potential. If your business plan works out, investors today could see 1000x or more returns on their initial investments.

I would warn you that there's many many many people doing this same sort of business model. You can't be sneaky with what you're doing or you will fail. You have to be 100% transparent to eliminate all corruption with your idea. I think the term people use is automatic or decentralized audit trail. Meaning a computer system should be able to audit you in real time to make sure there's no corruption. To get to that point you need to be 100% transparent.

BTW, you should be looking for Ethereum developers. iOS/Android developers are played out and it's now super hard/expensive to get a popular app in that space.

I haven't even heard of an Ethereum incubator, except for the official one Ethereum set up.

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Quote from: RenegadeMan on June 11, 2015, 03:39:53 AM

Still not really liking this coin much anymore. Insider trading chat rooms for rich people...

Cryptocoins aren't money. These coins have no value. It's just a fun little collectible that people like to trade. So insider trading is perfectly legal. But if you do something strange like make 1 share = to 1 coin. Then insider trading would be illegal in this case.

The business plan sounds cool but highly unlikely to succeed as there's little need for incubators in the cryptocoin space. Cryptocoin developers don't like traditional company/investment models. They like to do the new ICO thing. They don't need help with that. They can network on forums and find other devs to work with. Cryptocoin developers are highly skilled computer people. I don't seem them really wanting anything from TRON.

Maybe CryptoWest could change my mind on this business model... It's a cool model and with more details I might like it. Could you list a few things that would make any developer want use this sort of incubator system?

I see this failing hard on that business model side. I see this working well as a pump n dump because of their rich people insider trading group.

I concur!

I'm part of those dev networks you mention, for a couple years now. There is no lack of dev interest or ideas here. That said, I'm more interested in normal, non super-beard crypto ideas. More details will come! If you don't like me or my project, please sell. I want to get rid of as many doubters as possible, then show the jewels.

I could never sell a cryptocoin for the next 5 years. There is too much potential. If your business plan works out, investors today could see 1000x or more returns on their initial investments.

I would warn you that there's many many many people doing this same sort of business model. You can't be sneaky with what you're doing or you will fail. You have to be 100% transparent to eliminate all corruption with your idea. I think the term people use is automatic or decentralized audit trail. Meaning a computer system should be able to audit you in real time to make sure there's no corruption. To get to that point you need to be 100% transparent.

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Quote from: fartbags on June 10, 2015, 10:08:28 PM

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on June 10, 2015, 06:46:29 PM

This is just about the most boring threads at the moment, I've seen more activity in a cemetery.

slack is the place to be and if u have 6720 trons u can join directors where all tech is going on Wink

That's the biggest scam I've ever heard of. What about the people who feel $20 is a big amount of money to go in on a coin with. Everything should be open.

Someone should be posting slack conversations on this forum or somewhere else thats open to everyone.

I'm starting to dislike this coin a lot. Nothing but a bunch of greedy people talking about pump n dumps privately.

I think you're over-reacting and making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't valid. Cryptowest has been one of THE most open and accessible devs in all of crypto. You can't for a minute claim "scam" when a dev provides all of his details (even his mobile phone number for goodness sake) and continually provides updates and information on what's happening. I mean give the guy a break! There's nothing special in terms of ability-to-profit-from information/knowledge that people who have large amounts of Tron have versus people that might have only $20 worth. I'm of the firm belief that someone who's invested $20 shouldn't be anymore advantaged/disadvantaged than someone who's invested a large sum of money. However (and this applies to ALL asset classes from real estate to equities to crypto) someone who has made a large investment is obviously committing to the project and wearing far more risk than someone making a very small investment and that's what Cryptowest is acknowledging by make the special "Directors" lounge.

Between here and Slack the fundamental information about what's happening with Tron is available to everyone.

Just to prove this wrong, I'm willing to leak the last few days of the private conversation in the Slack if you PM me an email address. Insider trading talk or coordination is illegal, and Positron Technologies is a registered US corporation. Some of the members may choose to act on their inside knowledge but they act on their own and take that risk themselves. There is no talking of p&d. There are plenty of other coins to do that with, and TRON is more about slow growth.

The last few days has been discussing MN coin amounts, the alt markets in general, and solidifying names of contracts and contributors to be added to the website.

If you want to be added to the public parts of the Slack chat, PM me an email address.

If you have over 6,720 TRON and would like to be in the Directors room, pm me an email address and your wallet address or bittrex deposit address.

If you want to assist TRON in any way, PM me an email address and I'll add you to the Contributors room.

You can also reach me on skype, slack, irc, (as cryptowest) and my cellphone is in the ANN.

Thank you,

Cryptowest / David

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Quote from: ubeenpaycoind on June 11, 2015, 01:47:53 PM

Still not really liking this coin much anymore. Insider trading chat rooms for rich people...

Cryptocoins aren't money. These coins have no value. It's just a fun little collectible that people like to trade. So insider trading is perfectly legal. But if you do something strange like make 1 share = to 1 coin. Then insider trading would be illegal in this case.

The business plan sounds cool but highly unlikely to succeed as there's little need for incubators in the cryptocoin space. Cryptocoin developers don't like traditional company/investment models. They like to do the new ICO thing. They don't need help with that. They can network on forums and find other devs to work with. Cryptocoin developers are highly skilled computer people. I don't seem them really wanting anything from TRON.

Maybe CryptoWest could change my mind on this business model... It's a cool model and with more details I might like it. Could you list a few things that would make any developer want use this sort of incubator system?

I see this failing hard on that business model side. I see this working well as a pump n dump because of their rich people insider trading group.

I concur!

I'm part of those dev networks you mention, for a couple years now. There is no lack of dev interest or ideas here. That said, I'm more interested in normal, non super-beard crypto ideas. More details will come! If you don't like me or my project, please sell. I want to get rid of as many doubters as possible, then show the jewels. Relevant information is in the ANN.

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Unrelated news but important IMO... Erik Voorhees standing up to Ben Lawsky

Give his business www.shapeshift.io a visit and/or a signup! They left NY but you can still access the site if you're there.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102749808

http://nypost.com/2015/06/11/lawksys-new-bitcoin-rules-akin-to-spying-on-users-critic/

http://www.bizjournals.com/newyork/news/2015/06/11/new-bitcoin-tool-shapeshift-new-york-bitlicense.html?ana=fbk

https://twitter.com/cryptowest/status/609078977773182977

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Still not really liking this coin much anymore. Insider trading chat rooms for rich people...

Cryptocoins aren't money. These coins have no value. It's just a fun little collectible that people like to trade. So insider trading is perfectly legal. But if you do something strange like make 1 share = to 1 coin. Then insider trading would be illegal in this case.

The business plan sounds cool but highly unlikely to succeed as there's little need for incubators in the cryptocoin space. Cryptocoin developers don't like traditional company/investment models. They like to do the new ICO thing. They don't need help with that. They can network on forums and find other devs to work with. Cryptocoin developers are highly skilled computer people. I don't seem them really wanting anything from TRON.

Maybe CryptoWest could change my mind on this business model... It's a cool model and with more details I might like it. Could you list a few things that would make any developer want use this sort of incubator system?

I see this failing hard on that business model side. I see this working well as a pump n dump because of their rich people insider trading group.

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cryptowest i got a better question for u if u can answer u say its a business whats the business model what is it about Grin

Well, if you could give the Compass update and the rest of the ANN a quick read that would be helpful.

The plan here is to act as a small scale startup incubator for cryptocurrency ideas. Because of the current lack of interest in coins, I've been branching out and connecting with some Android / iOS developers also.

A concise and professional business plan IS in the works but funding is slow so the work is slow. For now we are just a little coin project with a lot of potential. Wink

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just Update , but it's good , I still got cheap from TRON

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cryptowest i got a better question for u if u can answer u say its a business whats the business model what is it about Grin

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Quote from: RenegadeMan on June 11, 2015, 03:39:53 AM

Quote from: fartbags on June 10, 2015, 10:08:28 PM

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on June 10, 2015, 06:46:29 PM

Quote from: fartbags on June 10, 2015, 10:08:28 PM

This is just about the most boring threads at the moment, I've seen more activity in a cemetery.

slack is the place to be and if u have 6720 trons u can join directors where all tech is going on Wink

That's the biggest scam I've ever heard of. What about the people who feel $20 is a big amount of money to go in on a coin with. Everything should be open.

Someone should be posting slack conversations on this forum or somewhere else thats open to everyone.

I'm starting to dislike this coin a lot. Nothing but a bunch of greedy people talking about pump n dumps privately.

I think you're over-reacting and making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't valid. Cryptowest has been one of THE most open and accessible devs in all of crypto. You can't for a minute claim "scam" when a dev provides all of his details (even his mobile phone number for goodness sake) and continually provides updates and information on what's happening. I mean give the guy a break! There's nothing special in terms of ability-to-profit-from information/knowledge that people who have large amounts of Tron have versus people that might have only $20 worth. I'm of the firm belief that someone who's invested $20 shouldn't be anymore advantaged/disadvantaged than someone who's invested a large sum of money. However (and this applies to ALL asset classes from real estate to equities to crypto) someone who has made a large investment is obviously committing to the project and wearing far more risk than someone making a very small investment and that's what Cryptowest is acknowledging by make the special "Directors" lounge.

Between here and Slack the fundamental information about what's happening with Tron is available to everyone.

Just to prove this wrong, I'm willing to leak the last few days of the private conversation in the Slack if you PM me an email address. Insider trading talk or coordination is illegal, and Positron Technologies is a registered US corporation. Some of the members may choose to act on their inside knowledge but they act on their own and take that risk themselves. There is no talking of p&d. There are plenty of other coins to do that with, and TRON is more about slow growth.

The last few days has been discussing MN coin amounts, the alt markets in general, and solidifying names of contracts and contributors to be added to the website.

If you want to be added to the public parts of the Slack chat, PM me an email address.

If you have over 6,720 TRON and would like to be in the Directors room, pm me an email address and your wallet address or bittrex deposit address.

If you want to assist TRON in any way, PM me an email address and I'll add you to the Contributors room.

You can also reach me on skype, slack, irc, (as cryptowest) and my cellphone is in the ANN.

Thank you,

Cryptowest / David

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Crypto enthusiast for years.

Agree w your post. Private channel is far better source for information, unfortunately on open public is many useful posts, or call them FUD for any coins.

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Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on June 10, 2015, 06:46:29 PM

Quote from: BTCMILLIONAIRE on June 10, 2015, 06:46:29 PM

This is just about the most boring threads at the moment, I've seen more activity in a cemetery.

slack is the place to be and if u have 6720 trons u can join directors where all tech is going on Wink

That's the biggest scam I've ever heard of. What about the people who feel $20 is a big amount of money to go in on a coin with. Everything should be open.

Someone should be posting slack conversations on this forum or somewhere else thats open to everyone.

I'm starting to dislike this coin a lot. Nothing but a bunch of greedy people talking about pump n dumps privately.

I think you're over-reacting and making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't valid. Cryptowest has been one of THE most open and accessible devs in all of crypto. You can't for a minute claim "scam" when a dev provides all of his details (even his mobile phone number for goodness sake) and continually provides updates and information on what's happening. I mean give the guy a break! There's nothing special in terms of ability-to-profit-from information/knowledge that people who have large amounts of Tron have versus people that might have only $20 worth. I'm of the firm belief that someone who's invested $20 shouldn't be anymore advantaged/disadvantaged than someone who's invested a large sum of money. However (and this applies to ALL asset classes from real estate to equities to crypto) someone who has made a large investment is obviously committing to the project and wearing far more risk than someone making a very small investment and that's what Cryptowest is acknowledging by make the special "Directors" lounge.

Between here and Slack the fundamental information about what's happening with Tron is available to everyone.

sofu

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This is just about the most boring threads at the moment, I've seen more activity in a cemetery.

slack is the place to be and if u have 6720 trons u can join directors where all tech is going on Wink

That's the biggest scam I've ever heard of. What about the people who feel $20 is a big amount of money to go in on a coin with. Everything should be open.

Someone should be posting slack conversations on this forum or somewhere else thats open to everyone.

I'm starting to dislike this coin a lot. Nothing but a bunch of greedy people talking about pump n dumps privately.

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This is just about the most boring threads at the moment, I've seen more activity in a cemetery.

slack is the place to be and if u have 6720 trons u can join directors where all tech is going on Wink

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