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Ashdrake

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:15:39 PM

Bro i'm @lord_ashdrake on twitter

but i'm just telling you these things, you know... in fewer words than he is.

Let me make a diagram it might help people

1) Drak has an ideea of a stable, secure, fast blockchain technology, with an alternative to Counterparty
2) Drak is a smart guy and doesnt work for free
3) Facing the posibility of working for free and someone hoarding all the hash, Drak does a PRESALE, in which he SELLS you viacoin for BTC
4) Drak continues to work on Viacoin, hires Peter Todd, does some good shit, etc

PRESALE money was never ever gonna be used 100% on Viacoin, he never said that he will if you read his posts carefully. It was not a crowdfund or a fundraiser. Legally, he could have just taken the money from the start and released the coin but then vanished. He continued to work on and develop it.

If you guys cant understand it like that, understand it like this: "He presold you in a piece of technology, the money that he got from that presale is his to do as he pleases. You could say he got paid $300K USD for a part time job for a full year and technically that wouldnt be incorrect. You basically just upfronted the entire cost of VIACOIN development. Some people get a salary, he got a lump sum in the beginning."

just quoting this shit because people might miss it

btcney

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WHERE IS OUR MONEY THO

Primitive

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Quote from: Ted Unite on March 25, 2015, 03:17:35 PM

Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:13:13 PM

Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

now that you've made your point multiple times, please stop.

really? You of all persons telling that to ashdrake?

yes because i'm still waiting on an answer from Drak to a very clear question that many of us are waiting for. i have to keep asking as long as he oddly refuses to answer.

assdrake can keep posting the same thing every time i ask, but he just makes himself an obvious mouthpiece of Drak's every time he does.

scambust

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You can actually hear both Drak and Ashdrake speak about BTC trading in Whaleclub Teamspeak channel.

CryptoDustin

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So if it costs $4000/mo for Todd, that equates to $48,000 per year. If the money was solely for development, that gives roughly 80 months, or 6.66 years of development. Where has all of the money gone?

I think these people deserve answers here Drak. Or maybe we should just have Peter Todd answer everything from here on out, because afterall he is the developer and you're the front man.

Ted Unite

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Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:13:13 PM

Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

now that you've made your point multiple times, please stop.

really? You of all persons telling that to ashdrake?

dbt1033

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:15:39 PM

Bro i'm @lord_ashdrake on twitter

...and?

Dude we can barely understand what you are saying with Drak's dick so far down your throat.

Ashdrake

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Bro i'm @lord_ashdrake on twitter

but i'm just telling you these things, you know... in fewer words than he is.

Let me make a diagram it might help people

1) Drak has an ideea of a stable, secure, fast blockchain technology, with an alternative to Counterparty
2) Drak is a smart guy and doesnt work for free
3) Facing the posibility of working for free and someone hoarding all the hash, Drak does a PRESALE, in which he SELLS you viacoin for BTC
4) Drak continues to work on Viacoin, hires Peter Todd, does some good shit, etc

PRESALE money was never ever gonna be used 100% on Viacoin, he never said that he will if you read his posts carefully. It was not a crowdfund or a fundraiser. Legally, he could have just taken the money from the start and released the coin but then vanished. He continued to work on and develop it.

If you guys cant understand it like that, understand it like this: "He presold you in a piece of technology, the money that he got from that presale is his to do as he pleases. You could say he got paid $300K USD for a part time job for a full year and technically that wouldnt be incorrect. You basically just upfronted the entire cost of VIACOIN development. Some people get a salary, he got a lump sum in the beginning."

Primitive

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:13:49 PM

Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:13:13 PM

Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

now that you've made your point multiple times, please stop.

Im just telling you shit in less words than he.

we'd like to hear from Drak.

you seem like Drak in disguise, but still we'd like to hear from the Drak BCT account

Ashdrake

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Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:13:13 PM

Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

now that you've made your point multiple times, please stop.

Im just telling you shit in less words than he.

Primitive

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

now that you've made your point multiple times, please stop.

Ashdrake

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Quote from: dbt1033 on March 25, 2015, 03:09:27 PM

Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:04:35 PM

Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

I have said dozens of pages ago what I have spent money on so far. Posts just gets drowned. Most of these discussions have occurred already in the thread months ago.

considering the level of anxiety in the thread, do us a favor and restate what you posted months ago.

This is exactly the tactic of experienced FUDders and why they absolutely love forums. You can reignite the same crap over and over again because history is forgotten after a few pages and a few weeks.

Drak... put this this to rest. Did you spend the entirety of the ICO, or not?

Please provide address with remaining funds if the latter is the case. Thank you.

We want you here just be honest with us PLEASE.

he is under no obligation to provide you with anything. Why dont you get it, that this was not billed as a crowdsale or fundraising or startup. It was billed as a PRESALE. In my opinon, he delivered a product, you guys bought said product.

His money is his own

dbt1033

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:08:21 PM

Honestly sometimes i really wish Drak would have just stolen the money upfront and did what other 99% of the altcoin developers do and vanish.

What he did isn't that much different.

dbt1033

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Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:04:35 PM

Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

I have said dozens of pages ago what I have spent money on so far. Posts just gets drowned. Most of these discussions have occurred already in the thread months ago.

considering the level of anxiety in the thread, do us a favor and restate what you posted months ago.

This is exactly the tactic of experienced FUDders and why they absolutely love forums. You can reignite the same crap over and over again because history is forgotten after a few pages and a few weeks.

Drak... put this this to rest. Did you spend the entirety of the ICO, or not?

Please provide address with remaining funds if the latter is the case. Thank you.

We want you here just be honest with us PLEASE.

Ashdrake

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Quote from: dbt1033 on March 25, 2015, 03:08:06 PM

Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:04:07 PM

bro the btc is gone, he spent money on all the work that got done on via. There isnt a "600 BTC ICO" btc fund anywhere. He delivered everything he promised. He explained his vision clearly and in as simple words as possible. The entire ICO was never gonna be used on the entire project lol

and the money is in his account. He spent as much as he needed to pay his own time + peter todd + anything else VIA related. You dont need honesty from Drak, lol he said it in the first post that this is a PRESALE and he will deliver a stable blockchain. The presale was done in order to promote a fairer distribution than hogging the hashrate (seems that didnt work as expected with people like Masternode appearing)

Not sure what else you expect the guy to say to be honest, it was clear as day from day 1

LOL!

So $300,000 worth of part-time development has been done on VIA/XCH?

Give me some of what you are smoking. Now.

BRO IT WAS A PRESALE. You bought it.

What else do you want? lol

Primitive

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Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:07:50 PM

Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:04:35 PM

Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

I have said dozens of pages ago what I have spent money on so far. Posts just gets drowned. Most of these discussions have occurred already in the thread months ago.

considering the level of anxiety in the thread, do us a favor and restate what you posted months ago.

This is exactly the tactic of experienced FUDders and why they absolutely love forums. You can reignite the same crap over and over again because history is forgotten after a few pages and a few weeks.

every time you dodge the question, you ratchet up the tension more. not sure what you are trying to prove Drak. enough already.

CryptoTrout

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https://twitter.com/CryptoTrout

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so no one knows how much coins bought between 270 and 1000 sat ?

i have 55k and holding

i got 5000 @ 495 sat

Ashdrake

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Honestly sometimes i really wish Drak would have just stolen the money upfront and did what other 99% of the altcoin developers do and vanish.

dbt1033

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Quote from: Ashdrake on March 25, 2015, 03:04:07 PM

bro the btc is gone, he spent money on all the work that got done on via. There isnt a "600 BTC ICO" btc fund anywhere. He delivered everything he promised. He explained his vision clearly and in as simple words as possible. The entire ICO was never gonna be used on the entire project lol

and the money is in his account. He spent as much as he needed to pay his own time + peter todd + anything else VIA related. You dont need honesty from Drak, lol he said it in the first post that this is a PRESALE and he will deliver a stable blockchain. The presale was done in order to promote a fairer distribution than hogging the hashrate (seems that didnt work as expected with people like Masternode appearing)

Not sure what else you expect the guy to say to be honest, it was clear as day from day 1

LOL!

So $300,000 worth of part-time development has been done on VIA/XCH?

Give me some of what you are smoking. Now.

btcdrak

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Quote from: Primitive on March 25, 2015, 03:04:35 PM

Quote from: btcdrak on March 25, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

I have said dozens of pages ago what I have spent money on so far. Posts just gets drowned. Most of these discussions have occurred already in the thread months ago.

considering the level of anxiety in the thread, do us a favor and restate what you posted months ago.

This is exactly the tactic of experienced FUDders and why they absolutely love forums. You can reignite the same crap over and over again because history is forgotten after a few pages and a few weeks.

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