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Topic: [ANN] Withdraw your bitcoins to ANY credit/debit card in the world! (Read 33093 times)

newbie
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Anyone has hear when they will re activate the service?
legendary
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Cause:

Nice plug for this service by Jon Matonis in Forbes:
 - http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/05/07/bitcoin-funded-debit-cards

and effect?

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We are temporarily suspending the card loads and withdraw2card services. We will post more information within the next 24 hours.
- http://blog.aurumxchange.com/2012/05/card-loads-temporarily-suspended.html

sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
dafq is goin on
Do I understand right: dropped the ball meaning, over and out? rates are N/A on the site, and when testing, it says not possible right now... darn: "they" hate bitcoin the enemy of fiat??!!

Hopefully it comes back, as I would like that option. But hopefully my other way to MC does not get killed Wink
vip
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Merit: 1000
very cool, i look forward to trying this out:)
member
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withdraw2card/ service.

legendary
Activity: 2506
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In 48 hrs I should have rest of my money, and then I will give them another chance, hopefully this time everything goes as planned.

Aurum X Change handles numerous types of funds transfers.  Are you reporting a problem specifically this for this Withdraw2Card method or some other service from them?
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
Watching this with interest - there are clearly some bugs to be sorted out on this one  Wink

It has been confirmed that Aurumxchange's processor dropped the ball on this one.....

In 48 hrs I should have rest of my money, and then I will give them another chance, hopefully this time everything goes as planned.
legendary
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sr. member
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I wouldn't trust a Polish bank with my money any more than I would trust a Polish exchange, sorry.

In fact Polish banks are more trustworthy then banks in most countries, especially so called "western" countries, which much more freely close accounts/freeze assets at a whim.

A Polish bank would have to have really hard evidence of crime, in practice a court order, to freeze accounts, and randomly closing accounts because of "AML risk" is practically unheard of.

There are no bank transfer chargebacks, all banks have multiple-factor authentication, and any action done online is deemed to be done by the account owner, and claims "some virus on my computer sniffed my login data and made the transfer" are usually not respected. To the few people who actually had this happen (because of clue-lessness of using a Windows machine and entering one-time codes where one shouldn't) (there where a few cases in the news) the bank basically said: its your fault, we will NOT reverse the transfer.

And good, because when you get paid by bank transfer, you actually know you got paid and it'll stay. Not like in the infamous Australia WBX case recently, or Dwolla reversals in the US. Such things do not happen in Poland.
legendary
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Fees are a fact of life when moving money around. $39 is still better than the average $45 in fees when sending international wires.

45$ for a wire? Change banks. For example from http://www.aliorbank.pl/en you can send wire with OUR option (all costs covered) anywhere in the world for 70 PLN, which is about 22 USD. Both from private and business accounts.

I wouldn't trust a Polish bank with my money any more than I would trust a Polish exchange, sorry.
sr. member
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Fees are a fact of life when moving money around. $39 is still better than the average $45 in fees when sending international wires.

45$ for a wire? Change banks. For example from http://www.aliorbank.pl/en you can send wire with OUR option (all costs covered) anywhere in the world for 70 PLN, which is about 22 USD. Both from private and business accounts.
sr. member
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Watching this with interest - there are clearly some bugs to be sorted out on this one  Wink
vip
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Merit: 1000
I am going to see this how this works out with yodog before trying. I will be sending this to Thailand so I am a bit worried. Please let me know when the problems has been isolated and corrected. Thank you!
member
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as I had promised and already sent via your sites helpdesk



Here my online banking statement with my other transactions blanked for privacy.

Notice how it says [email protected] S025363 AURUMX  $859.66
 
This means due to your processor's error in sending CAD$ instead of the USD$ (which as per your website state is the only currency used, other than GBP). I have lost a total of $81.30, including your service fee's this transaction has costed me $119.58. Which is totally unacceptable considering this service is advertised at 2.99% plus a service fee of $9, which should of only been $38.28.

I sincerely hope you can make this right, I really wanted this service to work perfectly as this makes it so much easier to use my BTC's to take care of my daily expenses.
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
I used this service earlier last week, funds showed up, but they were $81.30 less than the amount shown after fee's..

The amount I had expected was 940.96, yet only $859.66 showed up...

This was from a beginning amount of $979.24

Why was I shorted $81.3?

Hello Yodog,

I have actually checked your order, and system payment, and we have sent exactly $940.96 to your card. In which country was the card issued, and what is the native currency for the card?

This seems to be some problem with your card issuer possibly doing an unnecessary double forex conversion on their side.

You did not send 940.96 to my card, nor did you send it in USD $, but rather CAD $

either way, I do not want to make this public yet I replied to the ticket on your site.. Not impressed at all....

We are not able to send CAD. We are only able to send USD and EUR as stated on our website. ALL fund are sent in either currency according to the customer's choice at the time of the order.

I have opened an investigation with the disburser and I'll let you know as soon as I hear from them.

In the meantime, here is a screenshot of your transaction from the disburser's side showing the funds were sent in USD (note that the amount shown is more than what we sent because we need to include some of the processor's fee along with your payment):

[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2wow3h0.png[]

It seems some issuing banks with very antiquated systems convert the funds to their national currency when they receive it through the card's network, and then convert them back to the actually currency of your card, effectively doing a double forex conversion and on top of that charging a conversion fee every time they do this unnecessary step.

Since your card is a canadian issued card denominated in USD, this is most likely what happened.


 I will get back to you once I get my online access set up.. They said they recieved CANADIAN FUNDS.. then converted to USD... how would this happen? More than likely your processor screwed up and shorted me 80$ + sent in wrong currency...

Either way I am not impressed and very disappointed as I was wanting to use this service again...

So far everyone who I have learned about on this forum has either A) scammed me, or B) shorted me.... so far the only honest people I have dealt with were coinabul.com and canadianbitcoins.com(who has already sent me 4500, and now too be 9k)


vip
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
I will test this, I just need to go to the bank first to see what my daily limit is:)

donator
Activity: 853
Merit: 1000
Thanks for implementing this much needed service

I may use this in the future
donator
Activity: 296
Merit: 250
Any news yet? Is it safe to use this service?

Edit: Just checked rates. It will actually be more expensive than sending a normal international wire transfer directly from Bitcoinica. So, useless.

That is, if you have a bank account. Frankly, we can barely keep up processing orders because of the success of this service. Just counting countries alone where people don't have access to bank accounts, or foreign wires are highly taxed or scrutinized (such as Africa, Brasil and China to name a few) we have processed over 3000 orders since we started a few weeks ago.

 
donator
Activity: 296
Merit: 250
This is damn cool if I understand this right. 2% fee plus $9.

So $1000 to my debit visa will cost me $29 if i pay with a gox code.

Very nice.

How is that cool if you'd only pay $25 at Bitcoinica? Are wires more expensive at MtGox?

I have to pay a 2% fee anyway to fund my debit card. Smiley This make the "wire" only cost $9 and if it takes less than 2 weeks its worth it!

Hi Goat,

Feel free to try our services. We recommend you try with a small amount first to make sure of transit times, etc. Usually customer's get their fund within 2 to 5 business days.

Cheers,
Roberto
donator
Activity: 296
Merit: 250
I used this service earlier last week, funds showed up, but they were $81.30 less than the amount shown after fee's..

The amount I had expected was 940.96, yet only $859.66 showed up...

This was from a beginning amount of $979.24

Why was I shorted $81.3?

Hello Yodog,

I have actually checked your order, and system payment, and we have sent exactly $940.96 to your card. In which country was the card issued, and what is the native currency for the card?

This seems to be some problem with your card issuer possibly doing an unnecessary double forex conversion on their side.

You did not send 940.96 to my card, nor did you send it in USD $, but rather CAD $

either way, I do not want to make this public yet I replied to the ticket on your site.. Not impressed at all....

We are not able to send CAD. We are only able to send USD and EUR as stated on our website. ALL fund are sent in either currency according to the customer's choice at the time of the order.

I have opened an investigation with the disburser and I'll let you know as soon as I hear from them.

In the meantime, here is a screenshot of your transaction from the disburser's side showing the funds were sent in USD (note that the amount shown is more than what we sent because we need to include some of the processor's fee along with your payment):



It seems some issuing banks with very antiquated systems convert the funds to their national currency when they receive it through the card's network, and then convert them back to the actually currency of your card, effectively doing a double forex conversion and on top of that charging a conversion fee every time they do this unnecessary step.

Since your card is a canadian issued card denominated in USD, this is most likely what happened.
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