Topic: [ANN][AAssetHZ/AAssetNXT] AltSheets Asset on HZ/NXT - software profits dividends - page 5. (Read 12155 times)

Thanks a lot for your feedback!

Yes, definitely. I am often an early adopter, but I really don't want to get stranded on an asset platform that no one else but me is using.

I probably still will.

HZ has too little total volume (#11) to be the best choice right now - but still I want to support that HZ platform. And it is cheap to launch an asset there.
NXT seems to definitely be where most of the action is (#13).
And also see my second (#12) assessment of the other platforms.


I mainly complicates it for me, because dividends have to be shared on both platforms. But fortunately NXT and HZ both go back to the same code, so I hope what I implement in one will work in both.


True - but then the only choice would simply be NXT ... not HZ.


Happy to hear that.
I really like HZ, and probably launch there first.

Sure. Perhaps the dividens software provides that, too?
I was thinking ... with all my crypto income now it probably makes sense ... to also always record the exact value in USD on the day of payment?
The rates asset-to-HZ and HZ-to-BTC and BTC-to-USD are fluctuating so much, so that it is probably a necessary step for me to always record the fiat value of incoming payments?



Me neither - but I am getting there. The main factors are mentioned in #25. And I am parsing the asset markets (NXT = nxtforum topic 8580; bitcointalk HZ thread = #1132 and #1137and #1147) to understand better the choices of the other participants.

Thanks a lot for involving your brother.  Very valuable information! Has he also seen my product? Happy to get feedback:

Yes, that makes sense - sell in phases, with each time rising sell prices.

Yes. My original idea (#1) had been 4 times a year. But then I studied the other successful assets (#18), and some of them pay even weekly.
Probably very different from non-inet companies because the dividens-software makes it so easy to do it?

But with a weekly payment the sums are so little, how does that look? Feels more like "crypto mining" then.

I will do a quick overview about compound interest, below (#34). Stay tuned :-)

Thanks, mind808crime, for your work, time, attention, ideas - very much appreciated!

 

Yes, exactly, that is what I am trying with this asset.

By selling shares of my future profit now, I want to crowd-fund the current situation
that I have to get the message out before I will create considerable revenue.

The win-win situation is:
Those who have imagination, and trust in me ... can crowdfund this initial entering-the-market,
and -if all this goes well- they can expect to be part of a considerable income stream later.


yes, exactly.  Here is the list of existing platforms, here is the idea to split between them, and here and here some analyses of assets on them.

It looks as if the overwhelming majority (in terms of number and volume) of blockchain assets
is using NXT, and that HZ has prospects of being the "next big thing". As their technology is ~identical,
for sheer curiosity, I would also like to look into another platform solution (perhaps later).


It is a "the more the better" situation.

Still, let me try to answer with the variables that enter this equation:

It depends on realistic expectations, how many paying customers

• I will have after 3 months (few?)
• I will have after 6 months (much more!)
• I will have after 12 months (many!!)
• will be with me when the expansion stagnates (?) after how many months (?)

Moreover

• which average price (per time unit) will maximize the profit?
  (expensive licenses = enough users? cheaper licenses = not much more users? )
  
  
• How much dividends to pay out, in the first 3 (few), 6 (much more!), 12 months (many!!)
  (!*!)
  
  
• How much the traders of the assets shall earn so that it is an attractive gambling opportunity
  (traders buy supercheap initially, and later sell all their shares at an X-fold price - what is X ?)

That last point speaks about those for whom the dividends are not the reason to buy my shares, they are not a crowdfunding crowd, but traders - they buy my shares because they expect them to go up in price X-fold, and then sell them off completely (to others who only later will discover me). Then after that unrealistic rally the price will plummet - and stabilize on a higher level than at initial price. I cannot really predict the numbers in the complexity of such markets, it's impossible to plan such short term trades. I guess for them the main thing has to be: My initial price must be very low, so that after not too much waiting the price will start climbing; and all that on a crypto-timescale. Traders are important, but investors are important, too - so:


I am very much interested in opinions about (!*!) the dividends expectations of possible long-term investors.
What is an attractive -yet realistic- expectation of dividends on the profits of an "young and emerging" software family?

Thanks. But whatever comes to your mind, please mention now, the initial settings can later not be changed anymore.


I am trying to guestimate that, I am in that process - with a spreadsheet, of course :-) But that will still take a while.

How can I find out ALL initial prices of ALL the other assets on the HZ platform?

can this be done as some kind of crowd-fund using HZ or Counterparty?  and what is the end-goal of $?

My most important question:

• You, yourself, what do you think? Would you buy some of this?
• If not, why?
• If yes, what got your attention?

preliminary HZ asset description

name:       _____
platform:   HZ
number:     5 million
decimals:   2

description:



---

Do you like this?

What else is good to include into the (immutable!) description?
Native speakers, I am not: Please check this for strange language.

What is a good starting price?

The announcement looks good, but the price is going to be trickier. How much revenue do you expect?

bump

Asset planning ...

ASSET NUMERIC PROPERTIES

To design my own asset, I am studying the existing assets (only those that are successful).

First HZ, because it is the smaller system, easier to get an overview; and it is newer, so I hope to catch the newest ideas more easily.

	_Quantity______________________	_Decimals______	_Trades____	_fractionOfAllHZAssetTrades_____
count	105	105	105	105
count if > zero	105	36	72	72
sumtotal			1955	1.0000
mean	1,102,205,994,084,300	1.31	18.6
median	1,500,000	0	1
max	100,000,000,000,000,000	8	444	0.2271
min	100	0	0	0.0000
from here on only those assets which had at least 3 trades:
count	44	44	44	44
count if > zero	44	23	44	44
sumtotal			1922	0.9831
mean	2,573,445,270,205,060	2.18	43.7
median	17,500,000	1.0	9.5
max	100,000,000,000,000,000	8	444	0.2271
min	100	0	3	0.0015
weighted with importance of asset = number of trades of this asset:
weightedMean = (sum (value * fractionOfAllHZTrades) )	349,982,995,555,115	1.65	207

Data source is https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=assets Table done with Excel & csv2tbl.
If you want me to do similiar things for you, you can pay me. PM me your wishes.


Next question: Start price per asset - how to find out?

Asset planning ...

ASSET DESCRIPTIONS

To design my own description, I am studying the existing assets (those that are successful).

First HZ, because it is the smaller system, easier to get an overview; and it is newer, so I hope to catch the newest ideas more easily.

The following are all DESCRIPTIONS of HZ assets for which at least 20 trades happened, sorted in decreasing number of trades (asset in first quotation had 444 trades already, last one 28 trades):









(no description but 50 trades!)




source is https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=assets
bold / italics is by me.

How to launch an asset?

Which are the most important sites to register a new asset with?

Thx. Interesting. Just looked over the ANN: "Colored Coins. Assets on the blockchain."

Where can I find a list of Opal assets, trading volume, etc.?  

Thx!

It's the most established, but HZ is the up-and-comer.

Thx xchris! Thanks for your answer.

And thanks a lot for your superb website, I am using it often. Very valuable addition to our world!

NXT is really THE platform for assets!
NAS is dead
at msc/xcp i wasnt able to fetch the data right now. didnt had time for it thats why its zero

I have just found another data source about asset platforms ... coinmarketcap.com
Small total number of assets (only 51), but XCP & MSC assets data, and new platforms (BitShares, NuBits).


Here's my analysis-by-platform:

coinmarketcap.com/assets	_all________	Mastercoin(Omni)	_BitShares_____	_Nxt_________	_Counterparty_	_NuBits______	_Horizon____
$-Volume24:__________	58228	27032	19270	6977	3876	1073	0
count:_______________	51	3	5	35	6	1	1
count if nonzero vol:___	39	2	5	25	6	1	0

With a $ conversion rate of $ 281.12 / BTC.


Remarks:
* The 4 of the 5 BitShares have quite some volume, but they don't look as if I can emit my own asset - true?
* The only 1 MSC asset really is MaidSafeCoin (Tether & Apicoin are only 31$ volume).
* Of the 6 counterparty assets, only Storjcoin X has considerable volume.
* NuShares has only NuBits mentioned.
* Horizon has only NHZSPHERE mentioned but with "?" volume.


So same result here ? !  

NXT seems to be the platform. Wrong? True?

cryptoassetcharts.info (CAC) gives an overview about several asset platforms:

There I found other platforms, NAS & MSC & NFD, ... but ...

... ouch, I guess the case ("which asset platform?")  is already decided?
http://www.cryptoassetcharts.info/assets/info

... and only NXT seems to have considerable volume, is that true?


I did a tiny little bit of excel magic, and dissected that table into this comparison:

__cryptoassetcharts.info__	_all_______	_NXT_____	_NHZ____	_Counterparty_	_NAS____
Volume30d(BTC):	1243.2	1234.9	8.2	0.0	0.0
Count:	619	477	105	23	14
Count If non-zero Vol:	136	129	7	0	0

Is that a true picture of what is going on with cryptoassets right now?


EDIT: See below

Which other assets do you know
which have done something similar
to what I am planning to do?

I would like to study examples.

Thx!

Yes, I already thought HZ to be the most active platform right now - in terms of current development.
However, the total market volume (i.e. liquidity) of NXT assets is much much higher - right?


Idea: What if I split into two or three assets? i.e.:

5% as a HZ asset,
5% as a NXT asset,
5% in a new and emerging asset platform (e.g. XAI ?)

That would balance risks & chances. But is that overkill perhaps?

What do you think?

theres more action will be done