Topic: [ANN][ANC] Anoncoin (anoncoin.net) | Privacy-centric currency | I2P darknet - page 16. (Read 40674 times)

They desperately need to change the business model to encourage development in the privacy coin. At this point in time it would be great to either hardfork Anoncoin or developers reach out for others to take the lead. Alternatively if core developers were to build into the code some element of earning potential for development of this coin it may still  have a fighting chance. That's why any coin that pays out during infancy, but doesn't plan for long term incentives is doomed for failure. A group funded task could pay developers to release new functions. The community could bid on what project deserves the most incentive. This works well for Dash. It would be great to hear from the guys that built this coin. Really disappointed by the silence from these guys. It's getting to the point of no return

I've been away from this coin for a while (don't think I've synced since the hardfork) and am trying to get my wallet up to date. I backed up my wallet.dat and installed the new ANC client but it kept crashing on start so reinstalled after deleting my roaming/anoncoin folder. It's working now but I can't seem to connect with the network. Anyone know of some nodes to add? Should I be going the I2P route instead? (I'd like to learn but for now I'm fine with clearnet just to get my wallet available again)

Also as a side note the anoncoin.net site keeps giving me a certificate expired error. The site is up but my browser doesn't like this!

Thanks

Cryptoslave is there any chance you could update this forum with latest developments or guide non i2p users on the small actions /tasks that are being carried out on a regular basis. If general public sees what's happening it will gauge more interest in the coin. Even a twitter account to follow or something else where it shows life in development. I appreciate that i2p is where you need to go for the day to day stuff, but If someone were to look at the forum they'd think that no development or interest exists. This may spur others to join as members and push this coin to new highs if they see how hard you guys are working on this. Thanks

I agree that changes to the software is irregular on Github, but if you look at the development change log Wiki,  they're quite big deliverables that need to be implemented. I2p integration with Anoncoin was a massive release in December. It would be great to see faster development, but that will only happen if more incentive is given to new developers out there, as I mentioned on a previous post. Developers are working, but efforts won't be evident unless you log onto i2p. To see the micro level tasks, log onto i2p and start using the irc2p to see what the likes of Meeh et al are up to, or to speak with them directly.

Phew.  Thank you for the detailed answer. Glad to hear that some great developers are back.

It's great that you're concentrating on the technology rather than solely on adoption through BTC38. Adoption will come as Anoncoin completes it's zerocoin implementation. People will be rushing to Novaexchange & exchanged.i2p if these are the main places to exchange Anoncoin. This will inevitably broaden exchanged.i2p market scope if they are turning over most Anoncoin compared to exchanges like BTC38.  Exposure to better exchanges like exchanged.i2p will become more evident later. This all depends on Anoncoin's success in implementing Zerocoin,  but with developers returning to support this coin I am confident this will happen.

I'm going to move over to irc2p on the i2p network to get the latest tech info, rather than asking you to repeat it here. Thanks for the update. 

Sorry for long time no news,

Yes you can check #anoncoin, #anoncoin-dev and #anci2pd on IRC2P, that is where dev team is.

Yep Meeh stepped back in as the lead dev, he did some commits (https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/b0106dbc6ce59caebe23c98419a31aa632426321) recently and will do more regarding for instance merged mining with LTC. Indeed the halving occured two weeks ago and now a block reward is 1.25 ANC per 3 min, leaving very few ANC to get mined! Thus to increase overall hashrate merge mining is discussed by meeh to be implemented, we are deciding what to do about this point with Meeh, K1773R, orignal,... and the community if people want to! 

BTC38 does not answer to any request regarding allowing deposit back though, so we are promoting competent trading exchanges namely exchanged.i2p and novaexchange.

CS

If I see this coin surviving I will write an article comparing zcash with zcoin. Just to summarise, not even the scientists that created zcash believe it is a secure enough implementation of privacy based cryptocurrency. I've got videos of the academics saying so. Zcash website quotes these academics as being involved with the coin. Truthfully, they are only involved through inception (involvement in the white paper)  not development as the multi party initial parameters is condemned by them  as being an insecure implementation. Anoncoin is the only true bitcoin based private cryptocurrency with i2p and Zerocoin possibly on it's way. Sad to see it fall into the history books. This is the only cryptocurrency I was genuinely excited about.

sad they let it fold like this... was the first of it's kind. They dropped the ball and had no real devs that could compete.

Good name, good idea. Not enough strong coders/designers here.

Nope, it was born before ring signatures. It only uses Tor.

This would be a good candidate for zcash anonimity.. Since it is.. anon coin after all..

Gnosis was in the process of implementing Zerocoin within Anoncoin. This would obfuscate transactions on the protocol level. I don't know if he's still working on this or not? At the moment it has great potential, but I'm starting to think it's a coin that will die unless it sorts it's business model out to get more active developers on the books.

Does ANC utilize ring signatures or any other techniques for obfuscating the transactions?

You could be right API. Cryptoslave are you around to deny  this. I was going to write some more articles and videos,  but if the cryptocurrency is not going anywhere I'll save my time. Is Meeh discussing further developments with you? Or was the last edit a one off?

http://www.coindesk.com/hardly-anyone-is-using-zcashs-anonymity-features-but-we-couldnt-tell-if-they-were/
".. shielded address hold only a small percentage, roughly 0.8%, of Zcash value right now"

Cryptoslave could you let people know where they can find out what's going on with Anoncoin, not just the incremental deliverables on the development Wiki https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team, but who's doing what at any time. For Anoncoin enthusiasts like me who want to know what's going on and the technical challenges that are happening. I don't expect a run through every task that developers are working on, but a birds eye view of the sub processes occuring would be newsworthy. Is all the discussion happening on i2p?

Btc38 seems to be working on the deposit reopen... once fixed, price at nova will surge

Just checked Github and it looks like Meeh / Mikal
(Founder, Anoncoin Core Lead Developer) Is back doing some major development. This has made my weekend.

Edit: looks like the whole team is back from developing other stuff, not just Mikal. Noticed loads of changes to the Wiki toohttps://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team
Really looking forward to seeing what happens next.  

Hi,
I just want to remark that, despite ZCash, there still might be a gap in the market of privacy oriented crypto currencies that potentially could be filled by AnonCoin, if it came off with a Zerocoin implementation similar to ZCash. In ZCash, z-addresses are not obligatory and, worse, their use is more expensive than the ues of t-addresses. It might turn out that this circumstance will limit the anonymity of ZCash in practice. If anoncoin would only allow z-addresses it would have an advantage privacy-wise compared to ZCash.

Is there any news on this? Nothing has changed.

I'm just looking at the cryptocurrency market and really like what Dash is doing. Dash’s in-built governance and funding system allows projects to be proposed and voted on by the community, and if approved, paid for directly from the blockchain. This encourages development and motivates interest from developers.

What's great about Anoncoin is that it is still in a beta stage and has more room for taking on dynamic changes than highly established ("too many chefs" cryptocurrency). The critical zerocoin element of the Anoncoin would bring substantially more interest if it were fully implemented as it would be the only true private, bitcoin based cryptocurrency on the market.

The  implementation of zerocoin would be more prompt if there were more developers testing and developing. I'm noticing this with all cryptocurrency at the moment. There seems to be a lull in development. I see this as an opportunity to be innovative in the business model to future proof development. The business model of taking out development money in the infancy of a coin is doomed for a brick wall as it leaves limited incentive to pursue further development once the funding ceases. Please evaluate the business model to intice some great developers that are pondering over where they should invest their time.

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As someone new to the Anoncoin community I have no interest in the history of the cryptocurrency, there are already so many books published on this. This is not to say that  your research holds no value. Quite the opposite. You have been following Anoncoin, so can therefore see  where it is going better than most people new to the community. It is definitely a technology that, once developed with zerocoin integration will change the private cryptocurrency landscape. Things change so quickly, I personally don't want or care to know each previous upgrade or enhancement that led to the current software. It's like releasing a book about the  history of Windows. From Windows 3.0, to now. There maybe some interest, but people want to work in the now or look forward to the future, not the past. Why not write a book about the future enhancements and what it could mean for everyone. I'm just thinking that this would be way more original, interesting and authentic than copying content from the forums  and Wiki's or narrating the process. I'm sorry to hear you have given up on this book. Why don't you reconsider this and develop the book into something  that maintains your enthusiasm. Hopefully you stay part of the community and support it. Good luck

Due to the lack of interest from the Anoncoin community, Crypto Books has postponed the publication of the book indefinitely.  Sorry for any disappointment caused.