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Topic: [ANN][ARG] Argentum | Fast. Optimized. Unique Innovation. | 0% Orphans - page 7. (Read 55777 times)

sr. member
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With the wild difficulty swings that were happening, the orphans are inevitable. What's your performance like when the difficulty and hash are stable?


Wasn't one of the great thing about ARG that it has 0% Orphans? (See title).
I was wondering how they did it in the first place. Looks like it was just some big talk to get people interested then?
legendary
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With the wild difficulty swings that were happening, the orphans are inevitable. What's your performance like when the difficulty and hash are stable?
hero member
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www.multipool.us
87 orphaned blocks on multipool since we started mining.  just FYI.
erk
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Arg is shooting up in value now. Not far off dgc. The both of them continue to trade well and are leading the way on Cryptsy. Looking forward to the new services for them both as well.  Smiley

It's a good thing the value on Cryptry is going up, because the high difficulty has been killing the profitability all day, and keeping miners away.

The last hour has been great.

hero member
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Arg is shooting up in value now. Not far off dgc. The both of them continue to trade well and are leading the way on Cryptsy. Looking forward to the new services for them both as well.  Smiley
erk
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And this followup post:

I imagine, in a good coin, difficulty should go lower simply when there is more demand for mining of that coin.

For instance, when a high number of transactions would demand higher hash power to process these transactions.

So lower difficulty should be an invitation to miners and multipool. Why would it be wrong to accept the invitation? Beats me.

Of course, if the coin is badly designed, the difficulty will go all over the place, oscillate, feedback-amplify, etc, and create havoc. But it is up to the designer of the coin software to think ahead about this and prevent it.

When ARG went to low difficulty a little while ago, there was hardly anyone mining it for 10min, then multipool bounced over to ARG and within 17min, mined 250 blocks that should have taken over 2 hrs to mine, then multipool bounced off to mine NVC leaving the small group of dedicated ARG miners to get the next 250 ARG blocks now at high difficulty, which looks like that will take around 12hrs to achieve, just so multipool can do a 17min rape again when the dedicated miners have used 12hrs of their electricity!

I see no evidence of any other switching pool doing this to ARG, just multipool.in, I watch the sequence of events very carefully this time.

The coin will never be successful if forced to spend  97% of each day at high difficulty because of the >51% burst from mutlipool every 12hours.

This is a serious problem.

erk
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This is a copy of a post I made in the multipoo.in thread:

The concept of this pool sounds great, but since a good portion of the pool appears to not be using the auto feature, wouldn't the use of PPLNS cause miners to lose money since they are bouncing around from coin to coin?  It seems like this would be much better implemented using PPS.

Let me give you an example of the bouncing effect.

ARG network hash rate  was a low 10kH/s, at block 54,501,  so the difficulty dropped, as it does every 250 blocks, this time from 0.85 to 0.2 this made ARG jump up to just over 600% profitability, which made multipool.in hop and suddenly add over 320kH/s to the hash rate,  an increase of 3,000% plus whatever other pool hoppers elsewhere did. Since the next 250 ARG blocks were found in minutes, the difficulty jumped back up to 0.85, multipool pool bounced again, leaving ARG with a network hash rate of around 17kH/s currently, and a block time of many minutes instead of the 32sec the coins difficulty target is designed for. This is not fair on the supporters of ARG.


My suggestion is either let the miners keep some hashing power on ARG by opening up the direct port again,  or take it out of the multipool rotation. multpooli.in represents  >51% of the ARG nethash when the miners are pointed to it.

Pool bouncing is hurting the coin.
sr. member
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Just noticed that http://arg.epools.org are charging 3% pool fee now!

And the payouts on http://www.argentumpool.com don't seem right, I was the only one mining on the last 4 of the last 5 blocks, no other shares, found them all, and I only got about 1/3rd of the coins from the blocks, go figure! Might as well go solo.
that was to prevent 100% of hashrate being at the pool. just went back to 1.5% now
sr. member
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Just noticed that http://arg.epools.org are charging 3% pool fee now!

And the payouts on http://www.argentumpool.com don't seem right, I was the only one mining on the last 4 of the last 5 blocks, no other shares, found them all, and I only got about 1/3rd of the coins from the blocks, go figure! Might as well go solo.




Or....try another pool....
erk
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Just noticed that http://arg.epools.org are charging 3% pool fee now!

And the payouts on http://www.argentumpool.com don't seem right, I was the only one mining on the last 4 of the last 5 blocks, no other shares, found them all, and I only got about 1/3rd of the coins from the blocks, go figure! Might as well go solo.


legendary
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It has my support and the community's. It is however a generally rare coin, so miners that jump on for instant profits will be sorely disappointed at the retargets and hop off. The price is rising quickly and so is the hash rate on average so I don't see that being a longterm nor short term issue for very long.
newbie
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other coins being more profitable, arg price needs to rise and stabilise in order to get miners to mine this coin, diff will spike from x5 to :5  orso in general the fact that other coins like dgc are more profitable
erk
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The ARG net hash is terrible, what's the story, I thought ARG had the support of the DGC community?
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legendary
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What's coming for Argentum? Smiley
erk
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http://www.argentumpool.com/statsAuth has several orphans in the last 25 blocks found. Anyone know what the story is there?
sr. member
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http://arg.scryptmining.com   still up and running since launch!

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prop payouts (handy for those looking to get in on diff changes!)
variable difficulty per worker.


Come check us out Smiley
legendary
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How do you cut down on stales with coins that move this fast? I've got over 800 accepts now but a stale rate of almost 25%. On LTC, same pool, I have a stale rate of less than 0.1%...

Is there some setting we need to change?
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  • Stratum support

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Good time to get some ARG. I am dedicated to making it a success with the same services as DGC.

You can now play with ARG at coincasino.cc. Good luck and enjoy!
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