Topic: [ANN][AUR] Auroracoin - a cryptocurrency for Iceland - page 34. (Read 506425 times)

yes, we'll be watching

if that was the case it would imply 90 people or more deposited in a row to their cryptsy wallets without anyone depositing other things inbetween. But the theory does not even need to be discussed anymore in the light of ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV

only take your time to look at the incoming transactions to this wallet (we have just been discussing one of them)

ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV




hard to say. I think the scam is still in the making and the plan is to dump that premine on much higher marketcap at a later date.

looks pretty believable to me.

last 3 days claims numbers have consistently dropped at night and (4:00 and 8:00 time slots). EDIT: Just checked: the "t" in the stats is the end time of the time slot, not the start time. So it makes sense: people sleep from 0:00 to 8:00

Same today, just it takes longer because people have been partying last night and now they have a hangover? Or just no new people are reached any more and existing ones have sucked all the claim infos from their friends and relatives by now?

Let's see if claims pick up in the afternoon.

any estimates on how much dev was able to profit from this scam?

This is not true. The trades that happened on exchange have nothing to do with the amounts in the transaction. That's just the cryptsy wallet... everything is mixed there. cryptsy auroracoind just looks for 100k AUR worth of unspent outputs when the whale withdraws.

also noteworthy: the last 9 hours (or more) not a single airdrop has been claimed
... suddenly ... after two days ago there were many hundreds claimed in a day (far more than what would be credible)

how is this very sharp, almost impossible drop in demand for airdrops to explain all of a sudden? 

basically you just need to take a close look at this wallet:
 ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV

to see what's going on.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/address.dws?ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV.htm

in this wallet 575.000 coins were drawn together all directly from airdrops in the same hour of the same day

it is the receiver adress of those other transactions sighted and so the 'whale on exchange'-theory is dismissed beyond doubt because it's impossible.

I think it is quite obvious what has been happening here.

on the first look a possible explanation but at second sight must be dismissed because it is likely more claims than those facebook groups have members combined. So there is actually no way this many airdrops could have been legitimately claimed in that timeframe. If we would be looking around we would be able to find many more of these transactions, no doubt.

Also if you look at the inputs of the transaction these come from wallets which nearly all claimed airdrops more than would be normal and have otherwise no transactions. It looks very sterile. I doubt these are adresses of individuals on an exchange. Especially since they ALL show the exact same pattern (claim directly from premine more than normal for a single person and nothing else in them)

Organic traffic does not look like this.

Your explanation would also imply the hypothetic whale you talk about would have been extremely lucky to buy these exact amounts from these different wallets and nothing else. It's not possible.

The whale buying on exchange hypothesis must be dismissed imo.

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How much does education cost in Iceland?

my last comment was edited. Check again. additional info now.

"as long as there's a 'legitimate' explanation, there's no proof of scam so far."
you say.

Where is Balduro i ask in return and who is supervising the airdrop? Are you asking people to blindly trust this ... in this environment? Who is accountable for the airdrop?
Do you think someone could be legitimately claiming airdrops worth 575.000 coins?

The least that can be said with certainty is: this airdrop is not accounted for which is alarming in itself.

drawing noobs/ the unsuspecting public from outside crypto space into this with the hook of free money is likely criminal because these people have no idea what they are getting into or how to protect themselves.

it's easier to engage with you when you stop insulting people, btw.

I'd be happy if we could keep this productive?


It's still within the realm of the possible. Maybe this guy just ran around in bars and stuff and payed people give them their claim info? I'm not saying it's the case, but it's quite possible imo. So it still stands, imo: this example is not adequate to prove scamming.


yeah, I know. This one is more interesting than the one we discussed before. Been looking at a similar one (http://explorer.auroracoin.eu/tx/ef7773c4ee18be87f7167eef0fcc08f177da277a00491a64b181e28186a14f25#o0) which has even more of those 318 AUR inputs.

I note that almost all of the previous outputs are from airdrop transactions.

This allows an easy (and likely imo) explanation: we're looking at the cryptsy wallet, specifically a large withdraw of a whale that has been buying (volume on cryptsy before Aug 3rd when this tx happend fits). People have been claiming directly to their cryptsy addresses (keys owned by cryptsy, that explain how so many airdrop private keys can be controlled by a single entity). This makes sense from a user perspective, too: why fiddle with auroracoin-qt if you just want to sell on exchange?

Of course it also allows for the explanation (malicious actor) you favor, but as long as there's a 'legitimate' explanation, there's no proof of scam so far.

I'm still making up my mind and looking for evidence. Help appreciated.

finally someone with half a brain!  



you can look at transactions of 1272 and 2544 too since these are compiled from 636s (2 times 636 is 1272 and 3 times makes 2544)
So you can basically look at every single transaction in that wallet! More than just 41 airdrops received in there.
The 954-ones are compiled of 318 and 636 airdrops btw (and so on - other amounts are compiled of 318 mostly)
So this is all 100% airdrop money in that wallet , 68000 coins in total received

also this transaction for 100k coins involves inputs from that wallet
750c4b64060d2596d06b707de43914f061f48ac62a609e9d596a9c5423b6a884

(https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/tx.dws?181828.htm)


maybe review again

you end up at ANArcr1CNx15LeTVmTcTDowX7GzkXsk5yV with 575k coins in it (all from airdrops). What more do you need to know?



@molecular what's your opinion on this transaction?:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/tx.dws?208503.htm

id: 7a7584cc2731b31b5312e1319d90c5f63f9bf073154c505384dcfebee8e59583

I'm looking at http://explorer.auroracoin.eu/address/AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g because it was mentioned lately by lackofabettername. (I'm not saying the accusers are wrong, just taking a look as they are correct in suggesting.)

I'm specifically looking at transactions of size 636 (there are 41 of them since 11/27. There are 2 categories:

• Transactions that come from an address with a huge amount (seems directly from airdrop) example
• Transactions that come from an address that has exactly 636 that was previously filled from airdrop (it seems) example

So... 41? To be honest, I think this is a bad example if you want to accuse someone of scamming. Looks to me like someone is buying the airdrops of his friends and familiy (or collecting and exchanging to fiat for them). The timing of the transaction also supports this.

There was a similar pattern on this address with the previous airdrop (318).

I'm not worried by this example at all. There are others, though...

for documentation:
this adress is particular active today. It is receiving now all the premine that was collected the last days to these other smaller adresses

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/address.dws?AYEkRf9fNbLVkCTjHBpKHZD1X578TaYK6g.htm

collected coins from airdrops since yesterday to this one adress: 20.000


this adress is linked to it and shows activity too:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/address.dws?AXuwBHwM44NZ2cuYqB3a3hWk8XVC4zo4n2.htm

this chain is now monitored and documented closely for as long as it takes. Should it be attempted to scam people out of their money with this coin (what we think is the case): we will have documented it in realtime and everything readily available for those interested.

It is recommended to abstain investing money in this. We will also continue to warn people about this dirty scam in the future.

I think it's pretty sad almost nobody was able to actually look at the blockchain activity for such a long time. That is part of your due dilligence!


It is pretty interesting that claiming stakes dropped off from dozens an hour in the last days to just a few per day now.
Shows: selfclaims of Balduro made up to 95% of claims on the airdrop.
It also shows Balduro is reading this thread, but not writing on the forum since early last summer for fear of getting caught and of course go to prison if he would not be careful enough.

Aurora is officially the last premined shitcoin you want to invest money on. It is created and run by a gang of criminals.
Premine privately controlled by Balduro for his personal enrichment can be estimated somewhere between 30% and 48% of the total coins.
If he was buying too he could control up to 85% of the coins. So be advised to stay the fuck away.

this coin and the residue of its community is a disgrace for crypto

Well at least I don't have my elbow in my ass like some people

selfclaiming airdrops did apparently stop (right now). Shows the bastard is reading the thread (or his little helpers keep him informed). And also shows the claims made were 100% correct.

Stopping it now won't help him though.

I guess he is right at this moment rearanging his system to try to cover it up better. Pretty sure we will see more claims of airdrop later again.

I'm a fan because it's a scam

lol, what an idiot you are. So you're not in on the scam?
If you're not part of the scam you're a little poor bastard that can't tell his asshole from his elbow.
But the way you behave is suspicious.

Bottom line:
we don't need to look for a conspiracy. This airdrop is a scam. That has been shown by the evidence that keeps surfacing from analysis of the blockchain.
We know Balduro is benefiting from it. If he has help from some other people posting here on the thread, we can't prove that but some people here behave suspicious like newbe account Mr. dinobotta

GTFO scamming faggot