Topic: [ANN][BRK] Breakout Coin | Sale June 13 2016 | Multicurrencies | Smart Contracts - page 39. (Read 243356 times)

^^^ Dat's proper vision of situation.

I'm sure they're gearing up for an announcement

i think the dev need to respond to all these questions that people have.  be professional dev and please respond and so this bickering will stop.  we need info dev. 

While the branding of BreakoutGaming is flawless, the BRO team must certainly take their PR & marketing efforts to the next level, hopefully that's the plan with the release of gaming demos.

I trust that BRO team members are watching this thread closely and I'm eagerly waiting for their next announcement, hopefully in next few hours.

What happened to I get x amount with x invested with x total coins?  You guys are making this too confusing for the layman, just simplify the shit.

I'm not going to argue for an exchange offering, but Bergstake is not a hindrance to anything, or at least shouldn't be.

For example, you can host an ITO on an exchange. When it is over, buyers can move coins to the token wallet. They have say 2 weeks to move the coins to their wallet. Then at some time a snapshot of the chain could be taken which reflects the BRO genesis distribution. People then use their token keystore (wallet.dat) as their BRO keystore and the BRO coins appear on first launch with of the BRO wallet client using the token keystore.

I just made that sound a lot more complicated than it actually is. In short. Buy tokens. Send them to token wallet. Backup the token wallet.dat. Wait. Launch the BRO client. Point the BRO wallet client to your token wallet.dat backup. Enjoy your genesis BRO coins and Bergstake.

Now, whether it is a good idea to host a sale at an exchange is another topic entirely.

They were at different times? what does this have anything to do with it? are we talking about 2 IPO's here or just 1? how are you comparing this coin to another IPO coin that doesn't exist?

Alt coins are at an all time low in volume, it doesn't mean funds are non existent , it means people are not trading their coins. Because they are sick of getting scammed, but it has been proven that if the coin is good enough, it will gain a decent amount from an IPO in exchange or not.

When ethereum was for sale bitcoin was going crazy, loads of people screaming and crying that bitcoin was dying, then ethereum made tens of thousands of bitcoin, ooooo where did this magical bitcoin come from? i thought it wasn't traded, let's also take into account the fact they fucked the market up a week later selling 5000 of those coins for dollar over a short duration of time

also you saying feasible when you don't have to lift a single finger is pretty funny , you have to coordinate between the exchange and breakout coin, having to sell tokens to over 300 people then attaching their names to their accounts and somehow proving that the address they give out is connected to the address from bittrex/bter without anyone getting scammed , all while this exchange that has better things to do has to go out of their way to spend more than a few days having to sort all that shit out

even with a token system like counterparty you are still creating even more time wasted , with a team that should be soley focused on delivery of a feature filled casino which is already taking longer than previously quoted considering we aint even seen anything yet


But honestly thanks for offering other ideas other than the same thing said over the last few pages just slightly different, If there is something good i will agree with it, but if it's just creating more messing around, more fussed, more chances of mistakes and mess ups, with so much more time wasted , while not actually being a real solution because it will have to still be fundraised privately most likely at the current prices, i cannot agree with

I think you are missing the fact, that Maidsafe and Ethereum IPOs were in different times. With BITTREX volume ~3000 BTC and before MintPal fell in a pit.


It is quite feasible, all you will need, it's to replace real bergstake with tokens. People will buy tokens and in the end redeem them for breakoutcoin with bergstake.

How many more pages of "here is an idea , lets put it on an exchange for 5 days"

"you can't do that it completely ignores berg stake one of the main features of the coin, it doesn't make sense"

"i will offer no solution what soever to what has just been said, here is my idea :but lets put it on an exchange for 5 days"

The 2 highest earning by miles right there are the ones not on an exchange , so the logic of an IPO being limited because it wasn't on an exchange , when the top 2 IPO's in crypto history to make the most ever were not on exchanges.................... logic flawed

The reasons that i have already mentioned..........Most complex criteria for signed up and investing in the IPO, even maidsafe and ethereum were easy as hell compared to this coin, this reduces the amount of investors just like the reason bitcoin hasn't been adopted is because its not easy to use

The fact they said we would see some examples and demos of some of the features of the casino and we haven't seen anything yet

The reward structure is batshit crazy ......investing in the IPO at the beginning of the IPO gives you more than 100% more than if you invest at the end......now i agree early investors should get an advantage but 100%+ is taking the piss, now only that , but the suggestion of selling coins on an exchange which would make it impossible to use the berg stake and create unfair distribution of berg stake , while also giving investors right from the start and even bigger benefit. like 150% . Yes this is also a reason to putting people off investing

Advertisement wasn't exactly amazing, except a facebook page that was most likely paid followers

There was hardly any advertising compared to other well known IPO coins

All these small things prevent the amount of people who see it and are aware of the project or want to invest thus lowering the total amount that people will invest

Maidsafe - nothing to see for a long time | Success  | no exchange
Ethereum - nothing to see for a long time | Success | no exchange
SuperNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
CRAIGcoin - basic working platform | Success | BITTREX
TILEcoin - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BlockNet - nothing to see for a long time | Success | ALL
BitBay - nothing to see for a long time | Success | BTER
BreakoutCoin - gaming platform soon enought | Pending... | no exchange

So what about other big reasons?

How do you propose this?

Either

A . Destory all the berg stake connected to the addresses when selling on bter because you cannot transfer them - this doesn't work it gives breakout over 50% control of all future earnings for the coin.

B. They keep the coins - Even worse

C. they some how manage to set up an agreement with bter to allow people to transfer address which would be an incredible amount of fucking around which no exchange is likely to do.


The berg stake is what prevents your idea for being simple and turning into something more complex and a huge waste of time .

Can we please stop using the stupid logic that the IPO was a fail because it wasn't on an exchange, i know some people are very simple minded and see that because recently bitbay made thousands in a few days that it is all about being on an exchange, But it is a proven fact that it is possible to get 50 times more BTC while not being sold on an exchange.

There are 20 different reasons all causing the lack of funds that were collected and a few big reasons like nothing to actually see .

You're a funny guy Barabbas...

First you spread FUD and call out BRO team for zero transparency, most likely to scare people from obtaining more BRO in the beginning of the ICO:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9105589

Then once the ICO price started to rise and leave you behind, you want BRO team to restart the ICO so you can buy more coins at the absolute best rate possible. I hate to break it to you, but as Blue_Wave & others said, it's too late to restart the ICO now; most investors will simply walk away. Furthermore, your "idea" of issuing refunds is far from being "easily done" since many investors don't have access to BTC addresses where they sent their BTC from (ie. funds sent from BTC wallets on exchanges)

Running a coin sale is obviously not MY idea, BRO team already stated that to raise more funds to reach 700 btc & distribute more Genesis BRO + Bergstake:


I just proposed that they should first release game demos to attract more PR & build more investor confidence, before launching a 5 day coin Sale, preferably hosted by an exchange like BTER or BITTREX, to attract more investors. (Eventhough I trust my funds with BRO team, much more than with those exchanges)

Where are you getting your information? I think they already said they wouldn't do anything like this.

You are right about your main point though: there needs to be more clarity on the fate of the unsold ICO coins.

As usual. you are just blinded by your own greed.

Let's make it clear for others -since you are out of reach completely-" I have been here since day one, supporting this idea that I consider is great, launched at the worst possible time and without anything solid (a working platform) that can support it. Without that my support remains just testimonial for I won't invest in beach property in Arizona. Not many, at this point in the crypto game -as obviated by the results- do. Contrary to your extremely short thinking capability, EVEN with a decent test-ready platform, the success of the coin launch is far from guaranteed, mostly due to the extreme scarcity of available funds in crypto at the moment.

That out of the way, I made a suggestion because this, in case you still refuse to see it, is a train wreck, a project that will NOT happen.

There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it, an INSTAMINE of gigantic proportions, you get that? And no matter where you put it of what you show in lieu of a working platform, and even if you do show one, No one is going to pay more than double the price it was given to the first investors, deal with that reality because it is crashing hard upon you.

What I suggested is a potential solution that I am convinced will provide the minimal result required and maybe even more than that. Doing things right instead of this mess. You don't offer any real alternative and what you pretend to pass for an alternative -which would require the approval of BTER, not an easy feat by any means-, will materialize very quickly in another terrible failure for, again, no one is going to pay for this -in significant amounts-- more than double what others did. But I may be wrong and you may be right, I just think no one is going to be crazy enough or capable even to test your "idea" while mine is easily done and can be tested in one week's time... if the platform is ready.

I "stick around" a lot of coins, some I am invested in some I am not. Currently as I have stated many times, I only have a testimonial interest in BRO. And I would like for it to be successful for, I repeat, I believe it is a great idea. But, in the current state, it simply won't. And it won't either if they were to try your outrageous approach, in my opinion, of course.

Oh and in case you keep on forgetting, a LOT of NOTHING is just as much as NOTHING of NOTHING. Take a moment or two to digest that.

This has already been stated that if it was done this way, if the berg stake was destroyed or kept by the dev's which seem like the only 2 options without being able to transfer the berg stake, they would own more than 50% earning potential for the life of the coin and it would be bad for the coin.

They also almost certainly wouldn't sell the entire amount of coins after the 5 days on the exchange and would have to either distribute to current holders (extremely unlikely) since they are trying to get 700 btc and would most likely sell to "private investors" I.E not the public on an exchange.

So proposing that you allow after 30 days already even more of a chance for people to buy in, which would cause detrimental damage to the life of the coin and not raise enough funds anyway or sell all the coins, after all that extra implementation to sell a few million more coins, you would have to sell to private investors in the end anyways. which is what they are already suggesting to begin with if they don't make enough money now

Starting now from scratch and refunding initial investors? Are you joking? Who will ever want to invest in BRO if their single word wont mean anything, anymore?! Who will garantee that new ICO will succeed? You Barabbas? I think, do this and you easily lost trust for many investors with lots of BTC. But thats just my opinion and i not an expert on the matter.

I think, as many pointed out when beta working platform is out, another ICO on Bter should be launched at starting price 3000/BTC for a week or so and spread it proportionally till it comes to 2000/BTC. Or something similar..

This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community.


That's called "Venture Risk".

When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if it’s risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: “It’s venture risk,” . “It’s possible that it doesn’t work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."

You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around.

Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though.

I take it you don't like my suggestion much...

I'd love to hear yours, since this will be a no go under the present circumstances.

I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit.  Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else.

THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point.