The community is speaking its voice and so far BTC-Alpha + OpenLedger combo is winning. It is an open race and anyone can participate. If you feel so strongly about Cryptopia, you can donate yourself. Heck donate 2.5 BTC worth and the winner is had! One aspect of BTC-Alpha + OpenLedger is you have 2 exchanges instead of 1, and further decentralizes BTCZ. This is the ultimate goal of the coin, to get it into as many different hands as possible. Once you are on Cryptopia, you are now likely on Whattomine and you have all the whale miners coming onboard and making it difficult for believers in the coin (the small people) who want to accumulate. I am sure Cryptopia will come, just be patient.
In the world full of scam and sham coins, which zk-snarks privacy coin is best. Which one has the spirit of the original bitcoin? The easy answer is BitcoinZ!
BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, and no founders reward.
Look at all of these sham coins below with zk-snarks and tell me why anyone would want to own them.
ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = ZCL fork, 8.5% treasury fund
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP
VOTE = Entire float 4.54% premine
HUSH = Premine, Zdash rebrand, airdrop/fork to BTCH
KMD = Premine and ICO 100M coins
[/quote]I'm talking about why to offer a donation for BTC-Alpha?
need only Cryptopia.co.nz
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Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - Low Fees, 100% Community, POW-Equihash No-Premine No-Tax - page 65. (Read 343720 times)
January 09, 2018, 08:44:33 PM
January 09, 2018, 07:19:34 PM
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
You're an idiot.
https://hodler95.github.io/exchangesrace/
Why are you showing me this? I know about it
Then you'll know it's a community choice, just like everything else with this coin.
Think before you post.
need only Cryptopia.co.nz
January 09, 2018, 07:04:09 PM
If you think this is a fraud then doesn't it make sense for you to sell your BTCZ and leave?
Of course if you can't sell them like you claim, I will be willing to buy them from you...at a much lower price of course since this is such a fraud.
I want to say that Cryptopia.co.nz is the right way!Of course if you can't sell them like you claim, I will be willing to buy them from you...at a much lower price of course since this is such a fraud.
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
BTC-Alpha looks shitty!
January 09, 2018, 07:03:03 PM
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
You're an idiot.
https://hodler95.github.io/exchangesrace/
Why are you showing me this? I know about it
Then you'll know it's a community choice, just like everything else with this coin.
Think before you post.
January 09, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
You're an idiot.
https://hodler95.github.io/exchangesrace/
Why are you showing me this? I know about it
January 09, 2018, 06:35:26 PM
If you think this is a fraud then doesn't it make sense for you to sell your BTCZ and leave?
Of course if you can't sell them like you claim, I will be willing to buy them from you...at a much lower price of course since this is such a fraud.
Of course if you can't sell them like you claim, I will be willing to buy them from you...at a much lower price of course since this is such a fraud.
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
January 09, 2018, 06:18:55 PM
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
You're an idiot.
https://hodler95.github.io/exchangesrace/
January 09, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
I do not understand developers
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
How can I propose to choose between BTC-Alpha and Cryptopia.co.nz
that's bullshit!
it seems to me that this is a fraud.
because the choice is obvious, it's Cryptopia.co.nz!
you know why the price has risen? because coins can not be sold on exchanges, they do not work.
and the developers are proposing another shit exchange BTC-Alpha)))
there is some kind of fraud
January 09, 2018, 05:37:18 PM
I love cryptopia! I have been a user since they had their slow servers. NOW they upgraded their hardware and software and deposits and withdraws are super duper fast.
whatever you do DO NOT USE stocks.exchange I personally think that I can do better by designing and making a better website user friendly and I can probably live with the crappy graphics but IT TAKES SO LONG to get your deposits. I send a test 1 LTC from Cryptopia to sucks.exchange and as of today I havent received it. I checked the explorer and transaction has been completed. Whatever! I hope they are working on their issues. In the mean time I missed the boat with BTCz
whatever you do DO NOT USE stocks.exchange I personally think that I can do better by designing and making a better website user friendly and I can probably live with the crappy graphics but IT TAKES SO LONG to get your deposits. I send a test 1 LTC from Cryptopia to sucks.exchange and as of today I havent received it. I checked the explorer and transaction has been completed. Whatever! I hope they are working on their issues. In the mean time I missed the boat with BTCz
January 09, 2018, 05:34:45 PM
Cryptopia is fine. Just a little pricey to withdraw BTC and coins... that's my only gripe lol
I'd love to see BTCZ on Crypt!
I'd love to see BTCZ on Crypt!
January 09, 2018, 05:27:32 PM
I have to say I don't understand why we are really not pushing for better exchanges. Tradesatoshi is just horrible, and thats assuming you can get into it.... most of the time I have tried it's down..... People keep saying it's about PR, and yet, what are we saying by not trying to get it on better exchanges. IMO we are just saying it's another meh coin to go along with the 1000's others....
See this come up a lot, everywhere we have a presence, this question is asked on Reddit, Discord, Slack, Twitter, Facebook, Here, Everywhere....
We push for exchanges everyday. Exchanges do not happen overnight - and especially for the BIG name exchanges everyone wants. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. If you were working behind the scenes everyday sending emails and filling out forms you would understand. Another issue for some is funding. We've had generous donations and the community has raised a decent operating budget - but it's still not enough to just hand over thousands of dollars to Cryptopia and HitBTC.
Pushing for exchanges has been an EVERYDAY thing since this community launched. I can guarantee you we're not just sitting on our asses with our fingers crossed hoping someone magically adds us.....that's not the case at all.
Personally, I hope everyone understands this. Also, we encourage steady growth - this is not a get rich quick scheme - or a scheme at all. It's a community with a lot of talent that's growing everyday.
See I don't understand that. You're saying that everybody is fighting for better listings on good exchanges so please explain it to me what choice community has/had?
OK we had to start somewhere so there was trade satoshi with 700k 24h market volume then it was stock.exchange with 3M.
Earlier I asked about delays on stock exnchange, I dont now if there is issue with all currencies or just with btcz because it was pumping (normal growth should be similiar in all exchanges and on trade satoshi was 97 all day). I dont now if this is a scam. Same happend 2 days ago at yobit, they were pumping b3coin, of course you still can't deposit b3 funds there.
i don't think i will use that exchange in the future. And because of those "issues" which are happening on all small exchanges I dont think I'll use btc+open at all.
And now we can make a difference. I dont now who chose those exchanges for voting but I cannot find any reason to put open ledger+btc alpha in confrontation with cryptopia. At the moment cryptopia is only exchange which could do something good for BTCZ and its community. Look at the numbers:
Open ledger 2,4m 24 volume
Btc alpha 6m
Cryptopia 172m
Cryptopia has a lot of potential, I am trading there from time to time, never had any trobules. Ok it's not bittrex or binance but for now I think it's the best choice and opportunity for BTCZ (and small market coins in general). Especially if WE have to pay for it. I dont get why people vote (by donating) for btc alpha and open ledger. CRyptopia has 15 times bigger market than trade satoshi, stock exchange, open ladger and btc alpha combined.
Why tehre is even discussion if we should choose cryptopia or btc+open? Yeah I know, community coin and all that, but it doesn't make any sense. And choosing btc+open will not do the community any good, we only loose 5 BTC.
January 09, 2018, 04:29:52 PM
I hear what your saying... but I'm also still trying to login to tradesatoshi and load the market...
-B
-B
January 09, 2018, 04:13:05 PM
I have to say I don't understand why we are really not pushing for better exchanges. Tradesatoshi is just horrible, and thats assuming you can get into it.... most of the time I have tried it's down..... People keep saying it's about PR, and yet, what are we saying by not trying to get it on better exchanges. IMO we are just saying it's another meh coin to go along with the 1000's others....
See this come up a lot, everywhere we have a presence, this question is asked on Reddit, Discord, Slack, Twitter, Facebook, Here, Everywhere....
We push for exchanges everyday. Exchanges do not happen overnight - and especially for the BIG name exchanges everyone wants. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. If you were working behind the scenes everyday sending emails and filling out forms you would understand. Another issue for some is funding. We've had generous donations and the community has raised a decent operating budget - but it's still not enough to just hand over thousands of dollars to Cryptopia and HitBTC.
Pushing for exchanges has been an EVERYDAY thing since this community launched. I can guarantee you we're not just sitting on our asses with our fingers crossed hoping someone magically adds us.....that's not the case at all.
Personally, I hope everyone understands this. Also, we encourage steady growth - this is not a get rich quick scheme - or a scheme at all. It's a community with a lot of talent that's growing everyday.
This!
Steady growth is the way to go. I'm getting old for all this roller coasters
January 09, 2018, 04:08:32 PM
I have to say I don't understand why we are really not pushing for better exchanges. Tradesatoshi is just horrible, and thats assuming you can get into it.... most of the time I have tried it's down..... People keep saying it's about PR, and yet, what are we saying by not trying to get it on better exchanges. IMO we are just saying it's another meh coin to go along with the 1000's others....
See this come up a lot, everywhere we have a presence, this question is asked on Reddit, Discord, Slack, Twitter, Facebook, Here, Everywhere....
We push for exchanges everyday. Exchanges do not happen overnight - and especially for the BIG name exchanges everyone wants. Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. If you were working behind the scenes everyday sending emails and filling out forms you would understand. Another issue for some is funding. We've had generous donations and the community has raised a decent operating budget - but it's still not enough to just hand over thousands of dollars to Cryptopia and HitBTC.
Pushing for exchanges has been an EVERYDAY thing since this community launched. I can guarantee you we're not just sitting on our asses with our fingers crossed hoping someone magically adds us.....that's not the case at all.
Personally, I hope everyone understands this. Also, we encourage steady growth - this is not a get rich quick scheme - or a scheme at all. It's a community with a lot of talent that's growing everyday.
January 09, 2018, 03:57:01 PM
I have to say I don't understand why we are really not pushing for better exchanges. Tradesatoshi is just horrible, and thats assuming you can get into it.... most of the time I have tried it's down..... People keep saying it's about PR, and yet, what are we saying by not trying to get it on better exchanges. IMO we are just saying it's another meh coin to go along with the 1000's others....
January 09, 2018, 03:47:28 PM
THERE WILL BE NO FORKS
THIS IS A SPOON
no seriously, the community just got finished voting on that and it was a no
THIS IS A SPOON
no seriously, the community just got finished voting on that and it was a no
Hard fork -> reduce supply by 100 -> best coin ever.
When did this vote happen? Really did community vote against its own interest?
I would like them to do it in the same chain because there is no sense in keeping such an high supply. No high value per coin is sustainable like that. BTCZ is too much inflated because of high supply. Even if it will reach a decent value now more and more new coins will make it decrease. No good for anyone. Just look at SHIELD or XRB... XRB cut 2/3 of supply in october then it did 500X in two months! High supply is cancer.
It have the same supply like Bitcoin, but * 1000. Why do you have any problems to always / it to 1000 if you want and think that there are only 21000000 coins. With the price you can do the same. So, 21 000 000 coins now max supply and price now 0.000001 / 1000 = 0.001 BTC
Real price 0.001 BTC per 1 BTCz with 21000000 supply. Simple.
Current supply fix issue with float numbers. It's not effect price.
Hope you understand.
If you like you can call 1000 BTCz MegaBTCz.. Then you have at BitcoinZ the same supply like at traditional bitcoin = 21 000 000 Mega BTCz
Current price 0.001 BTC per 1 Mega BTCz
HaHa!! Nicely said!! Yeah, all you people thay think supply is a problem just calculate MegaBTCZ and you’ll get the same feeling of BTC supply, that’s 21M.
Well done saying that, you really made me smile! This community has intelligent attenders.
January 09, 2018, 03:37:51 PM
THERE WILL BE NO FORKS
THIS IS A SPOON
no seriously, the community just got finished voting on that and it was a no
THIS IS A SPOON
no seriously, the community just got finished voting on that and it was a no
Hard fork -> reduce supply by 100 -> best coin ever.
When did this vote happen? Really did community vote against its own interest?
I would like them to do it in the same chain because there is no sense in keeping such an high supply. No high value per coin is sustainable like that. BTCZ is too much inflated because of high supply. Even if it will reach a decent value now more and more new coins will make it decrease. No good for anyone. Just look at SHIELD or XRB... XRB cut 2/3 of supply in october then it did 500X in two months! High supply is cancer.
It have the same supply like Bitcoin, but * 1000. Why do you have any problems to always / it to 1000 if you want and think that there are only 21000000 coins. With the price you can do the same. So, 21 000 000 coins now max supply and price now 0.000001 / 1000 = 0.001 BTC
Real price 0.001 BTC per 1 BTCz with 21000000 supply. Simple.
Current supply fix issue with float numbers. It's not effect price.
Hope you understand.
If you like you can call 1000 BTCz MegaBTCz.. Then you have at BitcoinZ the same supply like at traditional bitcoin = 21 000 000 Mega BTCz
Current price 0.001 BTC per 1 Mega BTCz
January 09, 2018, 03:37:29 PM
sorry if i offended anybody i just want bitcoinz to succeed i'm holding myself some coins and believe that btcz can succeed.
January 09, 2018, 03:34:55 PM
damn is it pump and dump or btcz got some good news?
Why does any price movement need to be tied to 'good news'? how about the community / users is probably over 120k that we can count and all our hard work is being noticed?
All of us have dedicated months to building out what you see now and mostly for FREE. The community has been donating for progress, why can't community capitalize on its work? why does there need to be news?
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with pump or dump - I certainly hope its not - but can we acknowledge at least the highly decentralized community has built so far? And that it's not stopping?
I totally agree with you Master!
January 09, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
damn is it pump and dump or btcz got some good news?
Until now, price did not react to the developments. This is my opinion.
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