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Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax - page 106. (Read 112207 times)

newbie
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Maybe Coinbene did it wrong, but don't blame on BitZ we dont know them yet!
newbie
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Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



Bigger exchange means higher liquidity and visibility. BTCP is a pump and dump coin, it can not be compared with BTCZ. The fundamental idea of these are totally different, BTCP has huge marketing budget but is also more centralised than BitcoinZ. Also in price is a huge difference, BitcoinZ is far more undervalued compared to BTCP. What is the reason why BTCP worth 30 USD meanwhile BTCZ only 0,0035 USD?
The over 8500 times difference can not be explained with fundamentals, not even with the difference in maximum coin supply of 21M/21B.

So we need more exchanges for decentralisation and bigger exchanges for higher volume and visibility.

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BitcoinZ: Deserves to be listed on top exchanges!


BTC was on 100 exchanges when it was $19,500 and now its less than half of that. BTCP dropped 40% after getting listed on HitBTC which is a well known exchange. Exchanges don't help a coin. Exchanges add liquidity for big whales to dump without moving the price too far down. Specially when we target garbage like Bit-z, Coinbene and Exrates for our exchanges.

ZCL was around 2,5 USD half year ago. Who kept that after the BTCP fork and still keeping it, right now 1 ZCL + 1 BTCP cost 13 USD + 28 USD = 41 USD all together. This means that in half year the price increased 16,4 times, without any fundamental value added, or any state of the art features.
(while comparing with pumped prices in the beginning of January when ZCL was 235 USD, the difference is over 90 times)

So taking into account all of these ZCL and BTCP are still highly overvalued compared to their intrinsic value, driven only by good marketing and centralised pump and dump strategy. Ony the efficient marketing is what we should learn from them. Sooner or later the advantages of BitcoinZ will be appreciated by the investors, and that will be reflected also in a much higher volume and price.

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BitcoinZ: The intrinsic value of this coin is significantly higher than the market price. It's time to buy!
 
member
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In BTCz we trust. Organic slow growth.
Give a look on our forum, to get
Know better BitZ proposal- vote - listings!
And please vote to deal:
https://forum.btcz.rocks/t/bit-z-com-exchange-enter-voting-1btc-fundraising/424

Also dont forget our new announcement, set reminder!!!!
Here: https://youtu.be/0dOBuHVwJ5s

Please stop with the Bit-Z thing. We are not buying their dumpa$$ token to just vote.

All the budget should go to the devs who are working so hard to make BTCz better. Not to exchanges.

If we make an application with a 10BTC fee for exchanges to apply to devs for permission to list BTCz I bet you many exchanges will line up and send the money.
member
Activity: 630
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In BTCz we trust. Organic slow growth.
Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



Bigger exchange means higher liquidity and visibility. BTCP is a pump and dump coin, it can not be compared with BTCZ. The fundamental idea of these are totally different, BTCP has huge marketing budget but is also more centralised than BitcoinZ. Also in price is a huge difference, BitcoinZ is far more undervalued compared to BTCP. What is the reason why BTCP worth 30 USD meanwhile BTCZ only 0,0035 USD?
The over 8500 times difference can not be explained with fundamentals, not even with the difference in maximum coin supply of 21M/21B.

So we need more exchanges for decentralisation and bigger exchanges for higher volume and visibility.

--------------------------
BitcoinZ: Deserves to be listed on top exchanges!


BTC was on 100 exchanges when it was $19,500 and now its less than half of that. BTCP dropped 40% after getting listed on HitBTC which is a well known exchange. Exchanges don't help a coin. Exchanges add liquidity for big whales to dump without moving the price too far down. Specially when we target garbage like Bit-z, Coinbene and Exrates for our exchanges.
newbie
Activity: 173
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Give a look on our forum, to get
Know better BitZ proposal- vote - listings!
And please vote to deal:
https://forum.btcz.rocks/t/bit-z-com-exchange-enter-voting-1btc-fundraising/424

Also dont forget our new announcement, set reminder!!!!
Here: https://youtu.be/0dOBuHVwJ5s
newbie
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To Show You, I'm Unselfish! I going to Gift you from my pocket with #BitcoinZ $BTCZ every end of the month for most active members (comments under my twitter posts, retweets)!!!
Howabout you doing it for free, I want to give back my love too!
You can comment or retweet under my older posts too! Lets reach as many ppl as we can!
I pinned the above message, till that is pinned, I gonna gift the most active member - follower!
In #Decentralization what We Trust!
#BitcoinZ is a gift for the World!

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/994535628539908096?s=19

https://i.imgur.com/t4o98Og.jpg
newbie
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All three clients, Telegram, Discord, Slack, connected together to the one BTCZ group.
legendary
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Is the btcz telegram give away bot working?Looks the referral stats are not getting updated.Any one has similar experience?

The three chat merged by bots, transferring messeges to each.
Still not clear.
newbie
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Bit-Z exchange is not for pump&dump. We need one top10 exchanges to better visibility, taken more seriously and investors were not afraid to buy. Lots of my friends not use smaller exchanges like btc-alpha or stocks.exhange. I use them without any problem. However, my friends do not want to. It is people like them who are waiting for a larger stock exchange.
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newbie
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many useful infomation shared here. Thanks for all bro
newbie
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Is the btcz telegram give away bot working?Looks the referral stats are not getting updated.Any one has similar experience?

The three chat merged by bots, transferring messeges to each.
newbie
Activity: 109
Merit: 0
Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



Bigger exchange means higher liquidity and visibility. BTCP is a pump and dump coin, it can not be compared with BTCZ. The fundamental idea of these are totally different, BTCP has huge marketing budget but is also more centralised than BitcoinZ. Also in price is a huge difference, BitcoinZ is far more undervalued compared to BTCP. What is the reason why BTCP worth 30 USD meanwhile BTCZ only 0,0035 USD?
The over 8500 times difference can not be explained with fundamentals, not even with the difference in maximum coin supply of 21M/21B.

So we need more exchanges for decentralisation and bigger exchanges for higher volume and visibility.

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BitcoinZ: Deserves to be listed on top exchanges!
member
Activity: 317
Merit: 10
Why is there so much bad sound in this project? Do project developers not do anything for their reputation? Or you don't care at all.
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1001
Is the btcz telegram give away bot working?Looks the referral stats are not getting updated.Any one has similar experience?
newbie
Activity: 173
Merit: 0
Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



1. 10btc donator's wish
2. Look after BCN
newbie
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https://z.cash.foundation/blog/statement-on-asics/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zo2yE7gv8E

Bitmain has stopped to limit the max number to purchase of Z9 mini.
Looks like they get nervous.
Yeeeeah they are out of money to produce more or newer!! <3
newbie
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We're moving the ANN for BitcoinZ to this one - the old one will be archived by bitcoinz-pod.  The ANN is being transferred to community jurisdiction.



Hello Community and Devs!

ASICs are ALREADY mining BTCz!

BTCz has come under mine-n-dump attack since mid March. I believe this is because Bitmain finished their Z9 manufacturing and released units onto their cleanrooms to start mining all kinds of Equihash coins just to mine-n-dump.  Bitmain thinks the Z9 profitability will hit practically zero (breakeven) around June or July and thats when they will shop the units to make the last $2000 off of the units.

We need your ZHASH fork implemented sooner to kill the ASICs who are killing BTCz by dumping everything they mine.  If a fork is implemented you will notice how the difficulty will drop significantly (like it did with Monero) and ASICs will be booted out!

BOOT OUT THOSE ASICS!

Mining started first of January.  Difficulty tripled and so did net hash rate in short time period.

I hope parameter change is not built into Z9.  Proposed Zhash {n=144, k=5}.
full member
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Since BitcoinZ is getting its own algorithm called Zhash, it would've been awesome to just rebrand it to Z (and keep BTCZ as the code).

Rebranding is not a bad thing. Just look at Raiiblocks becoming Nano. Raiiblocks was a shitty name tbh. Nano is a cool name, easily remembered.
And BitcoinZ is just one of many BitcoinSOMETHING coins. And people already think that BitcoinZ is a fork of Bitcoin, but it's not.

Sooner or later, BitcoinZ WILL NEED its own identity.
member
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In BTCz we trust. Organic slow growth.
https://z.cash.foundation/blog/statement-on-asics/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zo2yE7gv8E

Bitmain has stopped to limit the max number to purchase of Z9 mini.
Looks like they get nervous.


Bitmain already has stopped making the ASICs.

They have been mining with them for weeks if not months.

They announced the sale the day they stopped fabrication. They probably have thousands of them already mining all Equihash coins and dumping them in the market.

Once they are no longer profitable they ship them out.

Now you know why ASICs are always PRESOLD and always LATE.

The only way to say F/U to Bitmain is to FORK now, not in June.
When you fork in June you are only hurting the miners who paid $2K for the Z9.
If you fork NOW you hurt Bitmain which is GOOD.

Remember no ASIC manufacturer will ever ship anything out until they become almost obsolete and unprofitable. The notion that Bitmain fabricates and ships them out is grossly false.
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