Topic: [ANN][CloudMining][ETH] HashMining.eu Cloud Mining Provider in Europe! - page 2. (Read 8964 times)

I have not received any payouts, withdrawal is not working...

Some recent observations and facts to throw more light on the activity at hashmining.eu:

The people:

The hashmining homepage has been altered - no longer mention of Grosser or the other named key persons
Even https://www.bitcoinscamfighters.com/ homepage has been changed - some key members seem to have left the project

The website hashmining.eu is registered to a person called Victor Mekela and contact information is [email protected], Amsterdam
Phone +31848846639 - not a person mentioned anywhere else but the email company info is familiar

The key person, as far as we can tell is, Victor Grosser, Dutch citizen living in the Amsterdam area
Linked In status: CEO of Hashmining.EU (even though it is not a company)
On the bitcoinscamfighters.com homepage his profile is still published as CEO but the team / advisory profiles are changed

Another profile is Mel Lake (communication officer)
On hashmining.eu home page - profile removed
LinkedIn status update : stopped as Communications Manager at Nex7go july 2017

For the other (former) resources on hashmining or bitscamfighters we have not been able to find updates explaining the changes

Companies:

The legal entity structure for these activities are build offshore (UK).
Nex7go BV that is mentioned several places is in fact a Dutch company but owned by the offshore holding company

Here are the some company details:

Nex7go BV (LtD) - 120 EUR BV - seems to be the company involved in hashmining.eu - Shareholder is: V&C Familiy Group LLP (OC415645)
Company registered address: Veembroederhof 281, 1019HD, Amsterdam, The Nederlands (like the other companies)
Datum in functie 27-01-2017 (datum registratie: 02-02-2017)


Top of the holding:

V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP (OC415645) holding company - co owned by: Victor Grosser & Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam
Company Status: Active
Correspondence address:  Veembroederhof 281, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD
Victor Grosser:  ACTIVE LLP Designated Member  Appointed on 27 January 2017
Individual Person with Significant Control details:
 -Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam
 -Victor Grosser

Other owned entities where Victor Grosser is Director:

CRYPTO LAW LIMITED (10814467)- 1 EUR company - co-director: BITCOINSCAMFIGHTERS LTD - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 12 June 2017

BITCOINSCAMFIGHTERS LTD (10793769)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director  Appointed on 30 May 2017

MELANIN NETWORK LTD. (10783751) - 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 22 May 2017

CRYPTISH LTD. (10783752)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director  Appointed on 22 May 2017

XXX7HOT.COM LTD. (10776119)- 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 17 May 2017

BRANDMYWIFI LIMITED (10629291) (Former name: ORANGE 4 CAPITAL LIMITED (20 Feb 2017 - 07 Apr 2017) 1 EUR company - Shareholder/Owner: V&C Family Group LLP
Company status Active
Correspondence address Veembroederhof 281, Amsterdam, Netherlands, 1019 HD
Victor Grosser Director Appointed on 20 February 2017

PLERUSQUE LIMITED (10623063) - 1 EUR company - co-director V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP - Shareholder/Owner: V&C FAMILY GROUP LLP
Company Status Active
Correspondence address 61-105, Weesperstraat, 1018 Vn, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Bernadette Christelle Raissa Van Amsterdam  Director  Appointed on 16 February 2017

All offshore companies are recorded to be located at:

Registered office address:
CFS International Formations
DEPT 302,43 OWSTON ROAD
CARCROFT, DONCASTER
DN6 BOA
UNITED KINGDOM

So in fact it is a busy family but there are nothing directly illegal (per say) in the circumstances presented here.
One may say that maybe Mr & Mrs Grosser is overambitious and time optimists and with team members leaving the amount of work they need to do will increase.
But lets see what happens in the next days on hashmining.eu - we keep looking and should any more news come up we will let you know...

Hi Mr,
Please keep us updated.

I agree with you! The behavior of this service provider is very unusual. Based on the tip from Wickjohn I have started to dig a little deeper into the individual resources involved. I have contacts in Amsterdam that will help out here. I personal joined after a promotion on Coin-telegraph and I tipped them of to do a background as well. So lets see if the hashminers surface and solve the technical issues. It would be ironic if the scam-detectives turned out to be scammers them selves More to come in this matter...

Still nothing on the advertised 3MH/s extra 2 (!) weeks ago. Also no payouts again for days, this being the 4th in a row. Either communicate on what is going on or just close shop so I can get on with other things.

Really nice, but I checked and my referal still hasn't got a voucher or in any other way received the 3MH/s you have been advertising, including additional mail campaign. Why take the trouble if you can't make good on such a promise?

We are working on that xKingx, my support staff will sent an special voucher to allow you to add the 3MH/s.
Thanks for reporting that the missing payments and withdrawals has been processed.

Kind Regards,
Hashmining.EU Team

Yes, seems all payments for missing days have been done and withdrawls came through too. Now only for the 3MH/s promised last week to be added still please, so I can get my referrals of my back.

@ Jasonx31 :  Take a deep breath and relax! Its is pure speculation what your writing. So far there has been some delays in information but they came back every time and corrected the situation. Admitted it could be faster but so far there are no proof of scam or alike. So before you report anybody to anyone remember its also illegal to spread slander about others. Happy mining! 

All payouts has been processed! So i really don't know which payment you are waiting on!
Did you confirm the withdrawal e-mail ?

Thank you,
Hashmining.EU Team
 

Relax Jason! Hashmining eu will most likely reply when they have something to inform. I think it is too early to jump into any conclusions...

I don't know what it will produce, but I'm going to report this hashmining.eu racket to
the FBI's Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3)

https://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

I hope anybody who's getting scammed will join me and do the same.
Don't be cynical... it might produce a result.
These thieves have left multiple pathways through which their activities can be traced.
Save all your correspondence with them!
They have violated the terms of a published contract and contravened many international laws.
I have saved screenshots of everything from their website and urge everyone to do the same.

Dear users

we are still at your disposal. Currently we are upgrading our system, therefore payouts haven't taken place since 3rd July.
Thank you for your patience.

HashMining.EU Team

They haven't updated payouts on their site since July 3d. With no posts, tweets or emails explaining why.

It's funny how "chatty" hashmining's reps were on this thread a week ago...they're suddenly so silent.

Yes I am afraid you are right. No payouts for days, hardly any response, weird DDoS claims. Coins invested are a write off. Fool me once....

Everything about hashmining.eu is so incredibly fishy that there is no reason NOT to think it's a scam. To think that an enterprise asking for people to invest their hard-earned money would allow as much negative commentary to develop as is evident on this thread defies logic and only reinforces the notion that anyone ... like myself... who's sent them money is not going to get it back. Despite that fact that "somebody" comes onto this thread fairly frequently to "answer" questions and defend hashmining's position, the nearly robotic and often evasive answers they provide certainly have not built the least bit of confidence. And although I know one guy who claims to have legitimately cashed out 1 ETH from his account (on a $2,800 investment, mind you!), that's obviously how pyramid schemes work at first. I myself made a modest "investment" on June 26th. Since then their client pages with my account records have been "down" for hours at a time on two occasions and, as of this moment, I have not seen my pay out records updated since July 3. And although they have answered a couple of questions I sent them via email in the past, they only responded in situations that might have induced me to investment more and have declined to respond to basic, substantive questions about their business model and operations. Add to that the unbelievably ridiculous "live feed" that claims to show their "mining operation" in action, but which in fact shows NOTHING... a keyboard, a fan... I mean, it's like somebody's doing this as a joke! While hashmining does manage to do bits of damage control here and there in other forums (Youtube, Twitter), all in all one has the sense that a devious intention is behind the whole thing. If you check out the mining contract on their website, for instance, partway through the document is starts talking about mining "bitcoin," even though they claim to only mine / pay in ether... a pretty good sign that the "contract" was lifted from somewhere else and hastily revised to look "legit." I am extremely sympathetic to small, start-up enterprises and the headaches they can encounter; and I know that Coinbase's website goes down too and that Coinbase it not great about responding to emails either. But hashming.eu is either the worst-run cloud mining operation in the world or it's the worst-run cloud mining SCAM in the world. I assume most people jumping on here to say they're investing are shills at best, fools at worst. I just find it odd that some of the people listed as "principles" of the company on their website are so visible online in other places (Facebook, Twitter, Couchsurfing)... I mean, aren't these people afraid of legal action when / if this thing blows up? Or do crypto "investors" have a reputation for being suckers who just walk away whenever they get fleeced? At any rate, I would be delighted to get my money back, but am more or less assuming that this particular "investment" will be written off as a "sacrifice" to the cryptocurrency gods. I hope I'm wrong but don't see any reason to change my opinion to date.

I just sign up
And thank to the hash..
Happy mining..!!

We already answer you it will be visible on your balance after 0.000X
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no you didn't you answered someone else nothing to do with my questions so read over all the post and answer all the questions not just the ones you want
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Hello skyline_king

could you please be more specific on what questions remained unanswered from your perspective? We have just read all the thread through and cannot find any what we didn't answer. Please copypaste again. Thank you for your patience again.

HashMining.EU Team