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Topic: [ANN][CND] Cindicator - Hybrid Intelligence for Financial Markets - September 12 - page 149. (Read 137157 times)

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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big
Exactly the point I've been trying to make. If companies are not accountable to the government, how do you expect them to be accountable to the people whom they are offering their services to? Cindicator should be commended for uploading the law despite the temptations not too. They are being responsible, transparent, and accountable to their customers
In most cases the investors have the benefit, though sometimes it might go the other way round but it is meant to provide a safe conditions and environment for the ICOs.
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ICO will start in a few hours! Surely it will be an ICO of great impact and will be completed in a few days, but if this happens, is the roadmap predicting this type of situation? It takes patience too, because Cindicator is promising. Wink
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The ICO starts soon people should please verify any email you received because of all this scammers in the space. I don't know if the team will employ the same strategy Enigma team employed using the waiting timer just to prevent congestion on Ethereum network during the token sale
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How come the telegram and slack links no longer work?
sr. member
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big
Exactly the point I've been trying to make. If companies are not accountable to the government, how do you expect them to be accountable to the people whom they are offering their services to? Cindicator should be commended for uploading the law despite the temptations not too. They are being responsible, transparent, and accountable to their customers
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No, we will sell all tokens through White List stage (you can register at Cindicator.com)
At least send us an approval or rejection email.
We wait a little too long.
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Cindicator Bounty Manager
it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big

i saw on icobench that the ico starts in
Time
Starts in 8 hours
2017-09-12 - 2017-10-12

is that right?

No, we will sell all tokens through White List stage (you can register at Cindicator.com)
newbie
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I guess the staff is too busy with the token sale right now to respond, too bad I wasn't in Wave 3 Embarrassed
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Was tier3 released already?
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big

We can accept as a company you have to obey the regulations of China. I think your planning seems to very impressing but we are in different parts of the world and what are the products you are giving for CND coins.
sr. member
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big

i saw on icobench that the ico starts in
Time
Starts in 8 hours
2017-09-12 - 2017-10-12

is that right?
full member
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Cindicator Bounty Manager
it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back

Thanks, Bowtiesarecool!
Capoboss, please don't forget that we are a company, not an individual. If an individual probably can cheat China's regulations - the company can't, because the risks is very big
sr. member
Activity: 1050
Merit: 295
it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
You do know that very few blockchain offer complete anonymity right? You can still be tracked on most blockchains if there's a target large enough on your back
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1. Can't disclose it now, but we are a frugal startup

2. Cindicator needs blockchain to create its own ecosystem.
      - Cindicator tokens are ERC-20 compatible tokens distributed on the Ethereum blockchain (edited)
      - We are engaged in the analysis of blockchain and crypto markets.
      - Our tokens are infrastructure tokens that create the internal economy of our ecosystem.
Decentralization make relationship between forecasters, traders and data scientists more transparent. It also makes it possible for us to create the type of distribution system which is impossible for centralized systems

3. We will sell our products through CND tokens. Client should buy tokens on exchanges to pay for out products.

4. >as well as being a major CND holder    - why you think so?
    >yet the customers might not feel like it's a good thing.  - sure if the prices in CND will be too high - we will adjust them to boost the demand

5. That's not the typo - crypto market isn't stable for now (check China news this and last week for example) - that's why we can't garantee anything

6. THE SALE OF CND TOKENS CONSTITUTES THE SALE OF A LEGAL SOFTWARE PRODUCT UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW. THIS PRODUCT SALE IS CONDUCTED BY CINDICATOR LTD (GIBRALTAR), A GIBRALTAR COMPANY, OPERATING UNDER GIBRALTAR LAW.


BTW, useful links:
http://dl4.joxi.net/drive/2017/09/11/0025/1916/1677180/80/4ae447051d.jpg
 

1. I cherish your frugality, yet as an investor I can't help but wonder how are you planning on maintaining the growth and operation of your platform in the future?  Aren't there any numbers one could look at to make sure that the forecaster awards run smoothly? Especially since you are refusing to disclose your potential revenue sources.

2. I think you might have misinterpreted my question: I get that your tokens run on a blockchain, as do I get that analysing different blockchains is a major selling point of your platform. What actually interests me is what does your project use the blockchain technology for (other than to sell tokens)? What info do you store on the blockchain, other than transaction history of your tokens? How is a non-blockchain business that deals in forecasting for fiat different from you essentially?

3. I wasn't asking what currency you would charge them with  Tongue. In the past you claimed that previously your clients didn't want to employ your services without exclusive rights to the platform. How does pitching the same platform, but with CND tokens instead of fiat as payment change their minds?

4. >why you think so?
> Cindicator_WhitePaper_en.pdf (thanks for the link!  Wink ) > 3.2.2 CND token distribution... 20% - for the Cindicator company (+vesting).

> we will adjust them to boost demand - by what means exactly?

5. The cryptocurrency market is indeed volatile - not the least due to the fickle nature of whitepapers out there, that allow copmanies to essentially regard investor's cash as charitable contributions   Shocked

6. I am quite familiar with who is performing the token sale, thank you. The actual question was: how is the operating company officially affiliated with the company performing the token sale? Do they have the same owners/directors? Is the token issuer in any way liable for the actual performance of the product? Is the operating company liable for the actions of the token issuer? If market volatility from p.5 takes place, who is accountable for changing the rules?

See you at Stage 4!  Smiley
sr. member
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?

basically you talking about centralized systems where they can track, locate and prosecute you.

I think most people forget what decentralization means.
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I like this project, the overall publicity interface are very happy, simple and generous, the United States is very amazing
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
Wouldn't you have to comply if they can track, locate, and prosecute you? What would your defence be?
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the first ICO you have to prepare real hard by studying the WP in order to have a chance to be elected.
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There are currently some more artificial intelligence based trading/predicting platform under development. Cindicator has different approach with application available to understand how the collective intelligence will be used to become successful investor. I hope there will be enough time to make sure participation as this is going to be sold out in minutes tomorrow.
sr. member
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it  is very sad  to many  chinese that this project  rejected  investors from china.   Decentralization should  not  set  any limit  to  the region of investors.
But they have to comply with the law. Just because we advocate decentralization doesn't mean we shouldn't comply with the law and government. We risk anarchy and lawlessness even amongst ourselves if we all go down that route. Reality is not a cyberpunk fiction

So if the goverments say bitcoin is illigal then we should stop using it?
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