Topic: [ANN][Crowdfunding][DApp] 0xchan - A decentralized and incentivized image board (Read 368 times)

So this turned out being a scam orchestrated by sumpunk.

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x4d94abafa9a3369da6c19d630ad177f60c71913249c52b82a4410fe2d61d51d8

oh my

0xChan first page,
hi mods, I am a newbie
look at me, k' thanks

My apologies then, might have been a deranged mod.

Also appreciate the open feedback. As we're still in very early stages we still have room to change or improve certain subsets of our system's functionality. We usually take every suggestion and evaluate if they could work with our overall vision on how things are supposed to be working.

Appreciate all the answers here and yep, what a year for cryptoeconomics.

My points about the forking wasn't intended to work as a way to amass riches but your token needs some sort of value as an intrinsic defence of the platform. Without that, it'll just descend into farce and spam.

So, x100 on ZCH is not something anyone is touting or looking for (well me anyway) but some sort of value would be beneficial. I'd need to give it some though but DAI may have a usecase for you here also.

Keep up the good work.

Yeah I saw that after I replied to you, but even though this is my thread I can't delete any other posts beside my own.

Well, a post of mine where I was advising to do some more work on the whitepaper was deleted. Being you the OP in a self moderated thread I'd assume it was you.

Ok so, the tokens (ZCH) you are able to pre-purchase instead of paying the posting fee while saving a new message to the ledger are freely tradeable. However, those tokens don't add to your overall voting rights. I'm sure with enough evil intend there will be people coming up with the most entertaining ways to try and break the voting system. So your research was as good as ours; it works until it doesn't. But as you can see in the whitepaper we reserve the ability to change the entire moderation contract so we can update it or completely change it with new routines as time goes on. We're currently figuring out a good way for the users to be notified in advance if a change is upcoming and how to integrate them into the process of voting the change in or out.


The point of 0xchan is not to amass riches. The dividends functionality exists to basically repay people their posting fees over time. I'll crunch some numbers during the weekend but from what I have in mind your spending/earning ratio is so out of whack that it makes no sense to collect massive amounts of ZCH just to gain dividends.


It is. But it's also a fun and interesting one. In 2018 alone more economic models have been tested in record time thanks to various blockchains, than we could ever try in "real world" economics. Gotta appreciate that.

First of all, we're an anonymous (in most cases) development team. The core team currently consists of ARitz Cracker and me for solidity and full-stack development, and ToCsIcK cross-checking our codebase. Those names might mean nothing to you, but what is a face worth anyway?


Not sure where you are coming from with this, but ok. Kinda rude tho.

Sumpunk you have to understand bitcointalk is not your discord circlejerk where you delete anything and boss people around. You'll get fucked with that attitude over here. Newbie.

Who is on the team?

From our tests and research so far your system will probably work until it doesn't. I.e, there will always be malicious actors looking to break it without the correct incentives not to. The biggest danger would be external griefing attacks from those that don't care about your platform. Assuming the token or stake is tradable, it's likely a large enough quantity could be bought that you have some sort of sybil or 51% attack on the voting system.

There are other projects out there other than us of course, so the final answer may be elsewhere for you guys. Assuming we attain a large enough juror pool and dispersion of tokens, it makes it harder to break. I guess if you manage to disperse the tokens in a nice manner this will mitigate but the griefing of an actor with reasonable funds is hard to stop. Our mechanism against this is forking but I'm not sure if you've considered that.

The cryptoeconomic game: It's a tough one.

Every user who has a stake in the system is capable of voting. We call this "Proof of Sortition", where only people are being pulled into a draft that are actually using the system and are voting in their own interest rather than external voters who do it for monetary compensation alone. At least that's how we envision it'll work out but I guess we'll see long term if that even works at all or if users are starting to try and fuck each other over.

Huh, weird. Sure, will PM you. I won't send nudes tho, sorry.
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Hey, thanks for the reply. No need for nudes, unless they're really dank.

Yeah, users would be moderating themselves but using our own platform which you can integrate for free and take advantage of a pool of users already fully decentralized. You could have a 0xchan subcourt for example, with fees / rewards etc governed by your users.   We as a project don't have any say in the resolution of case.

How did you plan to go about it at your end?

The original idea was to let users moderate themselves and have them carry out their own disputes. Depending on how our test-net fares we may need to adjust certain factors, but overall we'd like to keep this as stand-alone as possible. Cheers for reaching out though. Appreciate what you're creating for the blockchain.



Huh, weird. Sure, will PM you. I won't send nudes tho, sorry.

Glad to hear this.

Also, can you PM me? I tried to message you but your settings don't allow it.

And no, it's not a marketing offer!

Nice. Really looking forward to this guys.

If you're looking for some full decentralized janitors (to clean up the curated list on potential disputes) get in touch with us at Kleros. We already have a working Dapp doing this.

I guess even with the large deposit stakes for posting, you're still going to get griefing attacks. Pizza, Gore on SFW boards etc.

We'd love to help and good luck with the project.

Thank you. The whitepaper is constantly being worked on, refined and expanded so check back every now and then to see if there is an update for it. A TL;DR of the updates can be found on the last page where we prepared a changelog. If you have any specifics you'd want to see in it, feel free to share your ideas. We're open for input.

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