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Prior to leaving the team in September, I held 820,000 CRW tokens.  I had sized the position based on it being 2% of the final token count.

I left the team in September because I had watched my father flatline as his mitral valve blew out and the surgeons rushed in to take him in for emergency heart surgery.  Luckily we already had him at the hospital -- but it's the kind of experience that has a way to cause one to stop and re-assess.

While I believe in crypto and I also believe that eventually pretty much everything will be tokenized -- this and every crypto project is also fundamentally speculative.  And my appetite for speculation changed after seeing my dad's eyes roll up as his heart stopped and they rolled him out to surgery.  After the surgery, he was kept in a medical coma for most of a week, giving the family some time to think and reflect, before they brought him back up.

So I left the team and have been reducing my position since I am no longer actively involved in the project -- and it felt inappropriate to me to sit on a large position in something I was not actively involved in -- that's just my temperament. And the position was also worth a lot of money, some of which I needed to help my family since it doesn't take a genius to figure out that my father might never be able to work again.  

I have not communicated regarding any of my sales with the core team until I was approached today to ask something like "WTF @@%##%&!" ?  

My current position is 175,000 CRW less the Bitrex fee for transferring it out in the last hour or so -- so people can see that if they want to confirm this.

I am sorry that my activities to reduce my position have caused people to attack and disparage members of the core team.   My activities had nothing to do with their efforts and were driven by separate "shit happens" in my own life.  

The core team is making amazing progress -- and I would encourage folks to think about the example of Tezos, who raised a few hundred million for non-existent governance.  I am excited about a few of the things the guys are working on -- but the best part may be having an engineer focused on the governance system now.  Soon Crown will have a crypto system with a multi-tier cloud network, a proposal allocation system to internalize development funding, and a mutli-layer governance structure for allocating proposal funds and also empowering "agents" to act on the network.  Application providers would be an instance of an agent.  Different types of nodes would be other instances of agents -- but the agents like the nodes aren't designated by a vote of the network - so that would create an interesting structure.

My own strategy with Crown at this point is to just hold onto enough of a position to maintain an option on building an application business once that part of the system has been built.  Artem will be able to explain where that is.

Hope that helps explain some of what has been going on in the market to people and also gives everyone a way to monitor at least what I am doing.


You have every reason to sell based on personal circumstances.  They're your coins anyway.  Thanks for your contributions to Crown, and hope things settle for the better soon.
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Prior to leaving the team in September, I held 820,000 CRW tokens.  I had sized the position based on it being 2% of the final token count.

I left the team in September because I had watched my father flatline as his mitral valve blew out and the surgeons rushed in to take him in for emergency heart surgery.  Luckily we already had him at the hospital -- but it's the kind of experience that has a way to cause one to stop and re-assess.

While I believe in crypto and I also believe that eventually pretty much everything will be tokenized -- this and every crypto project is also fundamentally speculative.  And my appetite for speculation changed after seeing my dad's eyes roll up as his heart stopped and they rolled him out to surgery.  After the surgery, he was kept in a medical coma for most of a week, giving the family some time to think and reflect, before they brought him back up.

So I left the team and have been reducing my position since I am no longer actively involved in the project -- and it felt inappropriate to me to sit on a large position in something I was not actively involved in -- that's just my temperament. And the position was also worth a lot of money, some of which I needed to help my family since it doesn't take a genius to figure out that my father might never be able to work again.  

I have not communicated regarding any of my sales with the core team until I was approached today to ask something like "WTF @@%##%&!" ?  

My current position is 175,000 CRW less the Bitrex fee for transferring it out in the last hour or so -- so people can see that if they want to confirm this.

I am sorry that my activities to reduce my position have caused people to attack and disparage members of the core team.   My activities had nothing to do with their efforts and were driven by separate "shit happens" in my own life.  

The core team is making amazing progress -- and I would encourage folks to think about the example of Tezos, who raised a few hundred million for non-existent governance.  I am excited about a few of the things the guys are working on -- but the best part may be having an engineer focused on the governance system now.  Soon Crown will have a crypto system with a multi-tier cloud network, a proposal allocation system to internalize development funding, and a mutli-layer governance structure for allocating proposal funds and also empowering "agents" to act on the network.  Application providers would be an instance of an agent.  Different types of nodes would be other instances of agents -- but the agents like the nodes aren't designated by a vote of the network - so that would create an interesting structure.

My own strategy with Crown at this point is to just hold onto enough of a position to maintain an option on building an application business once that part of the system has been built.  Artem will be able to explain where that is.

Hope that helps explain some of what has been going on in the market to people and also gives everyone a way to monitor at least what I am doing.


Best of luck with your family & new endeavors.
And thanks for all you've done for Crown; time - energy - resources.. Hope to see you back one day, and every once in a while around on mattermost or the likes Wink !
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Prior to leaving the team in September, I held 820,000 CRW tokens.  I had sized the position based on it being 2% of the final token count.

I left the team in September because I had watched my father flatline as his mitral valve blew out and the surgeons rushed in to take him in for emergency heart surgery.  Luckily we already had him at the hospital -- but it's the kind of experience that has a way to cause one to stop and re-assess.

While I believe in crypto and I also believe that eventually pretty much everything will be tokenized -- this and every crypto project is also fundamentally speculative.  And my appetite for speculation changed after seeing my dad's eyes roll up as his heart stopped and they rolled him out to surgery.  After the surgery, he was kept in a medical coma for most of a week, giving the family some time to think and reflect, before they brought him back up.

So I left the team and have been reducing my position since I am no longer actively involved in the project -- and it felt inappropriate to me to sit on a large position in something I was not actively involved in -- that's just my temperament. And the position was also worth a lot of money, some of which I needed to help my family since it doesn't take a genius to figure out that my father might never be able to work again.  

I have not communicated regarding any of my sales with the core team until I was approached today to ask something like "WTF @@%##%&!" ?  

My current position is 175,000 CRW less the Bitrex fee for transferring it out in the last hour or so -- so people can see that if they want to confirm this.

I am sorry that my activities to reduce my position have caused people to attack and disparage members of the core team.   My activities had nothing to do with their efforts and were driven by separate "shit happens" in my own life.  

The core team is making amazing progress -- and I would encourage folks to think about the example of Tezos, who raised a few hundred million for non-existent governance.  I am excited about a few of the things the guys are working on -- but the best part may be having an engineer focused on the governance system now.  Soon Crown will have a crypto system with a multi-tier cloud network, a proposal allocation system to internalize development funding, and a mutli-layer governance structure for allocating proposal funds and also empowering "agents" to act on the network.  Application providers would be an instance of an agent.  Different types of nodes would be other instances of agents -- but the agents like the nodes aren't designated by a vote of the network - so that would create an interesting structure.

My own strategy with Crown at this point is to just hold onto enough of a position to maintain an option on building an application business once that part of the system has been built.  Artem will be able to explain where that is.

Hope that helps explain some of what has been going on in the market to people and also gives everyone a way to monitor at least what I am doing.
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Same guy, same story, repeated many times.

I'm not going to quote him because I think he's trying to rack up points also by posting junk.

But yes, new folks reading this, please don't just take his word for it, please do read his previous posts from before and decide for yourself if indeed, he may be the scam his nick suggests.



His trust rating and need to hide behind several aliases says it all.  He's on Twitter too. Seems to spend sustained periods of time trying to drag down a project before buying in.

Lol, I bet he thinks he is behind the recent CRW price drops too.  Wouldn't surprise me if if he was that deluded.

Back in the day, when I was part of the Dash team, he used to spend hours calling out Dash as a scam using a similar alias. Maybe he just follows me around.
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Same guy, same story, repeated many times.

I'm not going to quote him because I think he's trying to rack up points also by posting junk.

But yes, new folks reading this, please don't just take his word for it, please do read his previous posts from before and decide for yourself if indeed, he may be the scam his nick suggests.

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Sorry to CROWN holders .. More shitt yet to come .. I heard somewhere 8K incoming ..
More you hold more you loose ..!! 😠 Stay away from shitt .. Read my old post Team are dumping their shitt coins on market 🐶🐶
😅😅😅
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I'd like to express my gratitude to the team behind Crown as well.  True, without investors/supporters, there is no community, that's obvious.  However many people forget that without the team, there would be no coin in the first place.  Without constant progress, the coin would be stagnant, if not dead.  For that, I graciously thank the Crown team for plowing ahead steadfast and determined all these years, constantly delivering stable innovative tech, and providing us users with great support.  Please keep up the awesome job and may Crown continue to grow, grow, and grow in the years to come.
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Also thanks for the kind words of support! We're working really hard behind the curtain (and in front of the curtain), so it's nice to hear people notice that Smiley


^ this.  

Thank you very much. There is a lot of effort and passion for the project being expended here.  Always nice to hear some kind words.

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Hi!

I have a new systemnode running for two days but not yet received any systemnode reward. It should be paid something like twice in 3 days in average? But I guess there is some randomness which can make it take a bit longer? Systemdode status is enabled so I think everything is working.

I choosed Crown systemnode because it was the best project I could find with a node that I also could afford. I wanted a coin that had been around for a while with relative stable price, good market cap and a nice community. I am very happy that I found Crown!

Some other coins have higher ROI but that is not Worth anything if price is going constantly down. I Think I might earn at least as much in increasing price as in the node rewards and when price get higher each reward in future is also worth more. That is why I think it is more important to look at the project behind the coin than just look for high ROI value. But still 50% is not bad ROI for the Crown system nodes.

Hey ronnylov!

When you first start up a systemnode it's placed in the back of the queue. It takes somewhere between 48-60 hours for you to get your first payment and after that you'll start seeing them approximately once every day and a half, like you calculated!

Also thanks for the kind words of support! We're working really hard behind the curtain (and in front of the curtain), so it's nice to hear people notice that Smiley
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Hi!

I have a new systemnode running for two days but not yet received any systemnode reward. It should be paid something like twice in 3 days in average? But I guess there is some randomness which can make it take a bit longer? Systemdode status is enabled so I think everything is working.

I choosed Crown systemnode because it was the best project I could find with a node that I also could afford. I wanted a coin that had been around for a while with relative stable price, good market cap and a nice community. I am very happy that I found Crown!

Some other coins have higher ROI but that is not Worth anything if price is going constantly down. I Think I might earn at least as much in increasing price as in the node rewards and when price get higher each reward in future is also worth more. That is why I think it is more important to look at the project behind the coin than just look for high ROI value. But still 50% is not bad ROI for the Crown system nodes.
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Thanks for clarifying.  For a moment I thought the price of CRW was dropping because there was a new "forked" coin CRW-SN.  BTC-fork-a-mania is rampant at the moment.

I suspect that CRW is finally suffering some increased pressure from the BTC price hence the selling.  

Which also explains the sudden appearance of certain characters to use the drop to create more fear.  You never see them when the price is stable.

Good point, its the same story everywhere, stronger players trying to create pressure on weak hands, after weak hands move out, this can go higher. Its long but a very healthy process...unlike coins which are flying because of hype and lack of knowledge of the buyers. As one of my partner says, the world is moved by a lack of knowledge, this is slowly changing though  Wink
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Thanks for clarifying.  For a moment I thought the price of CRW was dropping because there was a new "forked" coin CRW-SN.  BTC-fork-a-mania is rampant at the moment.

I suspect that CRW is finally suffering some increased pressure from the BTC price hence the selling. 

Which also explains the sudden appearance of certain characters to use the drop to create more fear.  You never see them when the price is stable.
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Hi!

What is the difference btween Crown (CRW) and Crown-SN (CRW-SN)?

https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW/
https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW-SN/

First page in this thread talks about master nodes and system nodes.
It looks like a system node "Crown-SN" is both cheaper to get and have a higher ROI?

Is there a guide how to set up a system node on Linux?

Edit: found your home page with google:
https://www.crown.tech/systemnodes-vs-trons

Also found the wiki:
http://op.crownlab.eu/projects/crown-atomic/wiki/systemnode-setup-guide-windows-slash-linux-vps


I don't see CRW-SN available on Bittrex, only CRW.  Is it a BTC trading pair?  I don't see it listed on CoinMarketCap either.

CRW-SN means Crown Systemnodes - its still CRW on bittrex

Thanks for clarifying.  For a moment I thought the price of CRW was dropping because there was a new "forked" coin CRW-SN.  BTC-fork-a-mania is rampant at the moment.

I suspect that CRW is finally suffering some increased pressure from the BTC price hence the selling. 
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Hi!

What is the difference btween Crown (CRW) and Crown-SN (CRW-SN)?

https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW/
https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW-SN/

First page in this thread talks about master nodes and system nodes.
It looks like a system node "Crown-SN" is both cheaper to get and have a higher ROI?

Is there a guide how to set up a system node on Linux?

Edit: found your home page with google:
https://www.crown.tech/systemnodes-vs-trons

Also found the wiki:
http://op.crownlab.eu/projects/crown-atomic/wiki/systemnode-setup-guide-windows-slash-linux-vps


I don't see CRW-SN available on Bittrex, only CRW.  Is it a BTC trading pair?  I don't see it listed on CoinMarketCap either.

CRW-SN means Crown Systemnodes - its still CRW on bittrex

Thanks for clarifying.  For a moment I thought the price of CRW was dropping because there was a new "forked" coin CRW-SN.  BTC-fork-a-mania is rampant at the moment.
legendary
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Hi!

What is the difference btween Crown (CRW) and Crown-SN (CRW-SN)?

https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW/
https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW-SN/

First page in this thread talks about master nodes and system nodes.
It looks like a system node "Crown-SN" is both cheaper to get and have a higher ROI?

Is there a guide how to set up a system node on Linux?

Edit: found your home page with google:
https://www.crown.tech/systemnodes-vs-trons

Also found the wiki:
http://op.crownlab.eu/projects/crown-atomic/wiki/systemnode-setup-guide-windows-slash-linux-vps


I don't see CRW-SN available on Bittrex, only CRW.  Is it a BTC trading pair?  I don't see it listed on CoinMarketCap either.

CRW-SN means Crown Systemnodes - its still CRW on bittrex
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Hi!

What is the difference btween Crown (CRW) and Crown-SN (CRW-SN)?

https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW/
https://masternodes.online/currencies/CRW-SN/

First page in this thread talks about master nodes and system nodes.
It looks like a system node "Crown-SN" is both cheaper to get and have a higher ROI?

Is there a guide how to set up a system node on Linux?

Edit: found your home page with google:
https://www.crown.tech/systemnodes-vs-trons

Also found the wiki:
http://op.crownlab.eu/projects/crown-atomic/wiki/systemnode-setup-guide-windows-slash-linux-vps


I don't see CRW-SN available on Bittrex, only CRW.  Is it a BTC trading pair?  I don't see it listed on CoinMarketCap either.
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This is week community ...
Go and buy some good and strong coin .. dash pivx.
If you really like MN ..
Feature and tech-wise, I totally disagree.  It's true that Crown hasn't caught on and become popular like the other two, but I think it's for various reasons such as availability of coins, trading exchanges, marketing, .... but definitely not because it's a weak coin.
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alright I say it again, was just analyzing the 40 masternode coins out there:

1. Dash - 4500 nodes, marketcap 5 billion
2. PIVX - 2000 nodes, marketcap 180 mil
3. Crown - 2600 nodes (960 Tron masternodes, 1650 systemnodes), marketcap 27 mil

other masternode coins are left behind

Also, none of the coins out there have a dual node layer





No disrespect but you somehow managed to miss Blocknet which is actually number three and as well established coin, and Pura which
is number four but I've not heard of before.




Edit: Even if you combine CRW and CRW-SN you still will be number five with total market cap of $56.6 mil



This is week community ...
Go and buy some good and strong coin .. dash pivx.
If you really like MN ..
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Anyone know the best way to run multiple systemnodes or multiple masternodes out of the same wallet?

You need different ip addresses for masternodes but can have the local wallet on one

Thanks for the reply, but I'm not fully understanding your suggestion. Here's what I did and please point out where I screwed up:

1. Created wallet
2. generated key
3. funded w/500 crown
4. grabbed output line
5. started systemnode w/ key value
6. started systemnode from my local wallet

I then went through steps 2-6 on the same wallet for a different systemnode on a different IP. However the new SN would never say that it was started properly (still waiting for remote activation). The original SN now showed the IP address of the second systemnode.

Trying to figure out where I screwed up. Thanks!

To run a system node, you need to have a computer that is 24/7 online - connected to the computer. This is mostly a server, or a VPS. Each systemnode needs a unique IP address. Therefore, it is not possible to run more than one Systemnode on the same computer/VPS.

Each systemnode needs to be tied to a local wallet. You can add any amount of Systemnodes to your local wallet.

For more information, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGN5NUwwvCE

I understand that they need to be on servers running 24/7, that's easy. The procedure and guides all show a single-use, single-SN setup. They don't really address what to do for multiple SN running against your local wallet. I guess my frustration is that there are lots of "guides", but no real documentation about what each step in the process is doing. I get that Crown is pulling this out from the Dash project, but they seem to be going at this in a cowboy fashion. For example, what exactly does the genkey step do? Should one run genkey each time you setup a new SN, or is one OK? Should you create a new receive address each time, or can you recycle the same one. Etc etc

EDIT: FWIW, I was able to get multiple SN paying back to the same wallet by simply doing every single step over again (including a new receive address).

Thanks for the feedback! I will see what I can do to clarify it more.

For your info right now:
A genkey is a unique identifier, only one node can use - and the purpose is to signal to which local wallet it belongs.
The systemnode output is a "receipt" that you indeed have the collateral locked on your local wallet.

So there is no order to how you combine those to. There just has to be a valid genkey that is running on a node, and a valid systemnode outputs with an address holding the corresponding collateral.

The combination of genkey + IP and systemoutput in your local wallet is what entails a complete setup of a node.

Hope that helps
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Is Crown inflationary? Will the total supply increase by a percentage each year?

No what I mean is; Does the Total Supply increase yearly? Eg will the 42 mill increase on an annual basis?

If this is meant to be a block chain platform for services, it should be inflationary.

Crown is not inflationary, it's got a set supply cap of 42 million. There will never be more than 42 million Crown.

Why do you suggest it should be inflationary?

If the coins are not inflationary there is no incentive for people to sell their coins if the price rises. I am assuming Crown intend developers to create apps/services for the platform, if the coins are too expensive they cannot use the coins. The more Crown coins gain in value, the less chance for the system to actually take off....eventually no one will use Crown and the it will be worthless.

All other "platform" development cryptos eg ethereum/lisk/ubiq are inflationary.

42,000,000 Crown total
1 Crown = 100,000,000 Crown Satoshi.
42,000,000 x 100,000,000 = 4.2 quadrillion potential units.

Not all units will be available (Masternodes/Systemnodes), but supply and demand will determine a fair price for a unit. With so many potential units I see no risk what so ever in leaving the code as it is.
Even at 30% supply due to units locked in SN/MN, 1.2 quadrillion crown satoshis will be available for use..

Over a long period of time it will make a difference. There has to be a mechanism in place to incentivise the selling of coins for speculative holders. Capping the total supply benefits the holder of coins yes, but as a working project this is a significant flaw imo.


It'd be great to see some calculations regarding your concerns..

Also the incentive of inflation to make holders sell would not work. If we place 5% inflation say per year, but new use is rising by 50% a year, we're kind of back to square one.
There would need to be some sort of mechanism that balances out the % inflation rate (like a central bank, but in code.). 
But by doing this we are playing with the fundamental principles of a crypto currency like Crown (changing total supply), when I really see no reason to do so.

Obv you have your reasons and are making your stance known, but virtually every other crypto for blockchain services/app (eg Ethereum/Lisk/Ubiq) runs with an inflationary policy. It's well known that the problem of be speculative investors holding onto coins is a big issue, hence why there is an annual increase in total supply.

An inflationary policy works over a number of years because the effects are accumulative.


Please explain your theory to this wallet Cheesy

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/crw/wallet.dws?781466.htm
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