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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 1095. (Read 9723733 times)

legendary
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Obfuscated blockchains may be proven to maintain their integrity through the use of zero knowledge proofs.

LoL ! I'm afraid they cannot be.

There is "math" and then there are the "implementors of math". Some of us can tell the difference. The only way an unbacked monetary vehicle can be proven to do anything is by having a thousand pairs of eyes on it every minute of the day.

I suggest you more usefully spend you time reflecting on what kind of jam you want on your toast  Wink
full member
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It's also a prime example of why obscured blockchains are toast because the rot would still be in there festering and atrophying the integrity of the asset courtesy of a total absence of transparency.

Atrophy is typically caused by lack of activity, not infection.  I know you're all worked up into a rage-froth about the market's direction (IE, DASH COLLAPSING), but please don't ham-fistedly misuse SAT words in an attempt to look smart and convincing.

Obfuscated blockchains may be proven to maintain their integrity through the use of zero knowledge proofs.

ZKPs and homomorphic encryption are well known mathematical concepts.

I'm not sure why you keep insisting they are some form of voodoo, and their black magic cannot be trusted.

I guess it's because you're either bad a math, or holding bags of a coin threatened by superior fungibility/privacy.

Your attempts to spread FUD about long-understood algebra and logic don't make increase DASH's appeal, to put it mildly.

Here are two great places to start curing your superstitious fear of analysis-resistant blockchains:

http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/11/zero-knowledge-proofs-illustrated-primer.html

http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1710/how-to-construct-encrypted-functions-with-either-public-or-private-data

Oh wait, those links are for adults.

Here is one that explains like you are five years old:

https://medium.com/@jinglan/how-to-explain-zero-knowledge-protocols-to-your-average-child-eb49feb4a41d

Analysis resistance is feature, not a bug.  That's why Evan was going to (IE was talking about) adding ring signatures to Darkcoin.

What are all the things they could be used for?
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
It's also a prime example of why obscured blockchains are toast because the rot would still be in there festering and atrophying the integrity of the asset courtesy of a total absence of transparency.

Atrophy is typically caused by lack of activity, not infection.  I know you're all worked up into a rage-froth about the market's direction (IE, DASH COLLAPSING), but please don't ham-fistedly misuse SAT words in an attempt to look smart and convincing.

Obfuscated blockchains may be proven to maintain their integrity through the use of zero knowledge proofs.

ZKPs and homomorphic encryption are well known mathematical concepts.

I'm not sure why you keep insisting they are some form of voodoo, and their black magic cannot be trusted.

I guess it's because you're either bad a math, or holding bags of a coin threatened by superior fungibility/privacy.

Your attempts to spread FUD about long-understood algebra and logic don't make increase DASH's appeal, to put it mildly.

Here are two great places to start curing your superstitious fear of analysis-resistant blockchains:

http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2014/11/zero-knowledge-proofs-illustrated-primer.html

http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/1710/how-to-construct-encrypted-functions-with-either-public-or-private-data

Oh wait, those links are for adults.

Here is one that explains like you are five years old:

https://medium.com/@jinglan/how-to-explain-zero-knowledge-protocols-to-your-average-child-eb49feb4a41d

Analysis resistance is feature, not a bug.  That's why Evan was going to (IE was talking about) adding ring signatures to Darkcoin.
legendary
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You have no way to audit nefarious activity on your coin. Think what Evan could have done with a 150m crowdfunding sale, amazing what we have done on a much smaller budget.

I think I just got hit by friendly fireWink
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BTC: the beginning of stake-based public resources
My apologies if these have already been asked and answered but I'm having difficulty getting definitive answers to the following:

1. When an InstantTX is initiated how are miners on the network notified that the output of a transaction already on the blockchain can only be spent by a transaction selected by a quorum of Masternodes? E.g. is a new block validation rule propagated across the network for the miners to follow?

2. Can an InstantTX reference a transaction which is in a miner's memory pool and not yet mined to a block in the way that transactions which have not yet been mined to a block can reference one another?

3. If there is a blockchain reorganisation because a longer chain is revealed to a part of the network is there a way to enforce the InstantTX is maintained. E.g. how long does the list of what InstantTX are valid remain cached with the Masternodes and miners?

4. How are master nodes remunerated for their services?
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Evan and the group are focusing on the core, which is good because the DAO was prime example of what happens when you DONT.

It's also a prime example of why obscured blockchains are toast because the rot would still be in there festering and atrophying the integrity of the asset courtesy of a total absence of transparency.


You have no way to audit nefarious activity on your coin. Think what Evan could have done with a 150m crowdfunding sale, amazing what we have done on a much smaller budget.
legendary
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I love my Dash so much

There's therapy available for that.... Wink



LOL, that's why I don't trade Tongue

Yah, probably could use some therapy ;P

For my irrational brain, it's all about pride in Dash, and desire for recognition - which logically has to come in the form of people hopping on our band wagon and buying Dash.  But they don't, they hop on all the scams and wild ideas out there.  We're strong and practical and have a great foundational purpose in being digital cash, and we do it better than anyone by several magnitudes. 

But I have to admit, though we haven't had our day in the Sun (IE at least a moment in the #2 spot) we have stayed in the top 10 (I think top 7) for a very very long time.  I should be happy with that, but I'm not.  I want the world to see how wonderful Dash is NOW!  LOL  Smiley
legendary
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Evan and the group are focusing on the core, which is good because the DAO was prime example of what happens when you DONT.

It's also a prime example of why obscured blockchains are toast because the rot would still be in there festering and atrophying the integrity of the asset courtesy of a total absence of transparency.
member
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I can't help but wonder if Dash is going down in price today because we are a Distributed Autonomous Organization also, but with a completely different and secure structure?  Do we get associated with hastily slapped together and badly structured projects now simply because we were the first DAO, and done correctly?  BTW, we've had our DAO running almost a year now without incident.

I wouldn't be surprised to find our beloved trolls spreading FUD about us as if we were anything like "The DAO" but I don't have the time to look where they spam.

Nobody talks about Dash on polo troll. It's all DAO DOA/ETH FUD/LISK DUD

Sorry, I'm in a mood where I'm incensed again, that Dash sits around like a wall flower when it's the best thing since the EMdrive, LOL.  I love my Dash so much, I can't believe everyone isn't crazy about Dash and trying to buy 'em up Tongue  (I'm a bit myopic about it, and sometimes it hits me in my gut and I have to whine).


Evan and the group are focusing on the core, which is good because the DAO was prime example of what happens when you DONT.
legendary
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legendary
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I can't help but wonder if Dash is going down in price today because we are a Distributed Autonomous Organization also, but with a completely different and secure structure?  Do we get associated with hastily slapped together and badly structured projects now simply because we were the first DAO, and done correctly?  BTW, we've had our DAO running almost a year now without incident.

I wouldn't be surprised to find our beloved trolls spreading FUD about us as if we were anything like "The DAO" but I don't have the time to look where they spam.

Nobody talks about Dash on polo troll. It's all DAO DOA/ETH FUD/LISK DUD

Sorry, I'm in a mood where I'm incensed again, that Dash sits around like a wall flower when it's the best thing since the EMdrive, LOL.  I love my Dash so much, I can't believe everyone isn't crazy about Dash and trying to buy 'em up Tongue  (I'm a bit myopic about it, and sometimes it hits me in my gut and I have to whine).
member
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I can't help but wonder if Dash is going down in price today because we are a Distributed Autonomous Organization also, but with a completely different and secure structure?  Do we get associated with hastily slapped together and badly structured projects now simply because we were the first DAO, and done correctly?  BTW, we've had our DAO running almost a year now without incident.

I wouldn't be surprised to find our beloved trolls spreading FUD about us as if we were anything like "The DAO" but I don't have the time to look where they spam.

Nobody talks about Dash on polo troll. It's all DAO DOA/ETH FUD/LISK DUD
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
I can't help but wonder if Dash is going down in price today because we are a Distributed Autonomous Organization also, but with a completely different and secure structure?  Do we get associated with hastily slapped together and badly structured projects now simply because we were the first DAO, and done correctly?  BTW, we've had our DAO running almost a year now without incident.

I wouldn't be surprised to find our beloved trolls spreading FUD about us as if we were anything like "The DAO" but I don't have the time to look where they spam.
newbie
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The DASHDrink Vending Machine is making a return to the D10e conference in July!  Grin

DashnDrink: Dash-Powered Vending Machine Returning for d10e
legendary
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Now I wonder how LISK will survive the ETH fiasco? I didn't know they were joined at the hip.

Or Augur...or DigixDAO...or the rest of them. Lots of shaken confidence now.
member
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Now I wonder how LISK will survive the ETH fiasco? I didn't know they were joined at the hip.
legendary
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Edit:@qwizzie how are you legendary with less activity?  Roll Eyes   Shocked

Lucky i guess  Wink
legendary
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Polo down (404 Not Found), just during the ETH/DAO fiasco.
Strange.

I already dumped all my DAO (300  Roll Eyes Tongue) on bittrex.

I wonder how DAO and ETH don't crash harder (maybe because exchange was forced to stop?).

Come on wtf, decentralize joke.

Edit:@Quizzie how are you legendary with less activity?  Roll Eyes   Shocked
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