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Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 3446. (Read 9723748 times)

legendary
Activity: 966
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OK, but the devil is always in the detail.  What's going to be the actual impact of moving to this solution?  Thinking of all the moving parts, what is the journey we would need to go on to end up with a scenario such as that?

Is the cost and impact of this journey less than all the benefits gained?

The actual impact is that we would no longer have all our Darkcoin vulnerable to the 'security' of 3 servers.

Evan is going the right way I think with the block reward structure, and assuming InstanTX works reliably dependence on miners is going to diminish greatly, but as long as blocks can be generated by centralised pools the coin remains intrinsically insecure.

The cost of my proposed solution is a rewrite of the p2pool code to make sure it can cope with the demands placed upon it and to include privkeys for each p2pool node, with a corresponding check on the Masternode side. Whatever that cost is, within reason, it's worth it IMO to have an actually decentralised consensus system with no easily targeted centralised points of failure.

What are your DRK going to be worth if those 3 servers ever get compromised? Bugger all, very quickly, I think.

Remember not too long ago when the whole PSN got taken down for weeks by a few script kiddies from 4chan? Do you really think a serious adversary is going to struggle with a few shitty mpos servers? Assuming some unpleasant people don't just come physically knocking at the door.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust featuring Kevin Dowd

http://youtu.be/Qlydjg1tiso

I don't agree, but always is interesting to listen some reasonable criticism about Bitcoin (Bitcoin mining mainly) And think about in relation to DarkCoin.

Wow, I just watched this; lucid, to the point, and impeccable logic! The only point he does not address is the self-interest of the minors as an inhibition to gaining total control. Unfortunately this would not apply to hackers or, more likely, governments absconding with the three to five servers in control of various mining pools. Dowd's gem linking Ghash with Ghostbusters was priceless. Yes, DRK needs to address this issue.

Kevin Dowd is absolutely right, centralised mining is the antithesis of Satoshi's vision and renders PoW worthless.

Until a solution is found, nobody with a clue is going to trust any PoW coin (or more accurately, trust a few centralised pools) with their money. There will be no serious investment from the big bad and DRK is just going to dwindle away into irrelevance. If it doesn't get taken down by external forces first. Which as I keep pointing out, would cost an attacker peanuts.

You seem like a strong enough character, come up with a solution, form a working group, assess the impact to the existing infrastructure and present it to the project team...

I have already suggested mandatory p2pool use, having found blocks signed by p2pool nodes and validated by Masternodes as a way of enforcing distributed mining, with unsigned blocks being orphaned. Most of the code for such a scheme already exists, it's how Masternodes validate each other.

You could also use Masternodes to verify how much of the total nethash any one pool has and have a cutoff, or do away with PoW altogether and have Masternodes alone maintain the blockchain, there are many potential ways of doing it, but nobody is interested in admitting the problem, let alone discussing and addressing it.

OK, but the devil is always in the detail.  What's going to be the actual impact of moving to this solution?  Thinking of all the moving parts, what is the journey we would need to go on to end up with a scenario such as that?

Is the cost and impact of this journey less than all the benefits gained?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust featuring Kevin Dowd

http://youtu.be/Qlydjg1tiso

I don't agree, but always is interesting to listen some reasonable criticism about Bitcoin (Bitcoin mining mainly) And think about in relation to DarkCoin.

Wow, I just watched this; lucid, to the point, and impeccable logic! The only point he does not address is the self-interest of the minors as an inhibition to gaining total control. Unfortunately this would not apply to hackers or, more likely, governments absconding with the three to five servers in control of various mining pools. Dowd's gem linking Ghash with Ghostbusters was priceless. Yes, DRK needs to address this issue.

Kevin Dowd is absolutely right, centralised mining is the antithesis of Satoshi's vision and renders PoW worthless.

Until a solution is found, nobody with a clue is going to trust any PoW coin (or more accurately, trust a few centralised pools) with their money. There will be no serious investment from the big bad and DRK is just going to dwindle away into irrelevance. If it doesn't get taken down by external forces first. Which as I keep pointing out, would cost an attacker peanuts.

You seem like a strong enough character, come up with a solution, form a working group, assess the impact to the existing infrastructure and present it to the project team...

I have already suggested mandatory p2pool use, having found blocks signed by p2pool nodes and validated by Masternodes as a way of enforcing distributed mining, with unsigned blocks being orphaned. Most of the code for such a scheme already exists, it's how Masternodes validate each other.

You could also use Masternodes to verify how much of the total nethash any one pool has and have a cutoff, or do away with PoW altogether and have Masternodes alone maintain the blockchain, there are many potential ways of doing it, but nobody is interested in admitting the problem, let alone discussing and addressing it.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Hi everyone, I think I need some help here.  I just found my masternode was not running, and this is the last thing I see in the debug log:

Code:
2014-11-20 20:11:04 ResendWalletTransactions()
2014-11-20 20:11:27 received block 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=349
2014-11-20 20:11:27 *** Error: Disk space is low!
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Error: Error: Disk space is low!
2014-11-20 20:11:28 ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
2014-11-20 20:11:28 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=362
2014-11-20 20:11:28 mnw - winning vote  CTxIn(COutPoint(a800224b5cbe03c436a45779abbf795d3308a39ae4b6ddb7554af2c72598a8e5, 0), scriptSig=) Height 172986 bestHeight 172975
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=36
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=145
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Shutdown : In progress...
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flush(false)
2014-11-20 20:11:28 DBFlush(false) ended               0ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 StopNode()
2014-11-20 20:11:28 opencon thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 addcon thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 dumpaddr thread stop
2014-11-20 20:11:28 net thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 msghand thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flushed 10462 addresses to peers.dat  55ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Committing 1122 changed transactions to coin database...
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flush(true)
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat refcount=0
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat checkpoint
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat detach
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat closed
2014-11-20 20:11:28 DBFlush(true) ended              21ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Shutdown : done
2014-11-23 01:18:19

Do I not have enough disk space?  Or did I turn it off without remembering?  I would be so thankful for any help Smiley

Tante, yeah it's probably your debug.log file. Try stopping darkcoind, deleting debug.log, restarting. Also, I think the version on github now has fixed this issue, so even better compile and use that after deleting your debug.log.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust featuring Kevin Dowd

http://youtu.be/Qlydjg1tiso

I don't agree, but always is interesting to listen some reasonable criticism about Bitcoin (Bitcoin mining mainly) And think about in relation to DarkCoin.

Wow, I just watched this; lucid, to the point, and impeccable logic! The only point he does not address is the self-interest of the minors as an inhibition to gaining total control. Unfortunately this would not apply to hackers or, more likely, governments absconding with the three to five servers in control of various mining pools. Dowd's gem linking Ghash with Ghostbusters was priceless. Yes, DRK needs to address this issue.

Kevin Dowd is absolutely right, centralised mining is the antithesis of Satoshi's vision and renders PoW worthless.

Until a solution is found, nobody with a clue is going to trust any PoW coin (or more accurately, trust a few centralised pools) with their money. There will be no serious investment from the big bad and DRK is just going to dwindle away into irrelevance. If it doesn't get taken down by external forces first. Which as I keep pointing out, would cost an attacker peanuts.

You seem like a strong enough character, come up with a solution, form a working group, assess the impact to the existing infrastructure and present it to the project team...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
It's because of last version of wallet. It's filling debug.log very quickly so it is possible to fill your hard up. Restart the daemon and debug.log will start from 0.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust featuring Kevin Dowd

http://youtu.be/Qlydjg1tiso

I don't agree, but always is interesting to listen some reasonable criticism about Bitcoin (Bitcoin mining mainly) And think about in relation to DarkCoin.

Wow, I just watched this; lucid, to the point, and impeccable logic! The only point he does not address is the self-interest of the minors as an inhibition to gaining total control. Unfortunately this would not apply to hackers or, more likely, governments absconding with the three to five servers in control of various mining pools. Dowd's gem linking Ghash with Ghostbusters was priceless. Yes, DRK needs to address this issue.

Kevin Dowd is absolutely right, centralised mining is the antithesis of Satoshi's vision and renders PoW worthless.

Until a solution is found, nobody with a clue is going to trust any PoW coin (or more accurately, trust a few centralised pools) with their money. There will be no serious investment from the big bad and DRK is just going to dwindle away into irrelevance. If it doesn't get taken down by external forces first. Which as I keep pointing out, would cost an attacker peanuts.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1001
Hi everyone, I think I need some help here.  I just found my masternode was not running, and this is the last thing I see in the debug log:

Code:
2014-11-20 20:11:04 ResendWalletTransactions()
2014-11-20 20:11:27 received block 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=349
2014-11-20 20:11:27 *** Error: Disk space is low!
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Error: Error: Disk space is low!
2014-11-20 20:11:28 ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
2014-11-20 20:11:28 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=362
2014-11-20 20:11:28 mnw - winning vote  CTxIn(COutPoint(a800224b5cbe03c436a45779abbf795d3308a39ae4b6ddb7554af2c72598a8e5, 0), scriptSig=) Height 172986 bestHeight 172975
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=36
2014-11-20 20:11:28 send last getblocks for 00000000000afc1e3af7d5546677ef294c39124dfc31a66ac8a5c2c56a1a0b25 peer=145
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Shutdown : In progress...
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flush(false)
2014-11-20 20:11:28 DBFlush(false) ended               0ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 StopNode()
2014-11-20 20:11:28 opencon thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 addcon thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 dumpaddr thread stop
2014-11-20 20:11:28 net thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 msghand thread interrupt
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flushed 10462 addresses to peers.dat  55ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Committing 1122 changed transactions to coin database...
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Flush(true)
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat refcount=0
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat checkpoint
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat detach
2014-11-20 20:11:28 wallet.dat closed
2014-11-20 20:11:28 DBFlush(true) ended              21ms
2014-11-20 20:11:28 Shutdown : done
2014-11-23 01:18:19

Do I not have enough disk space?  Or did I turn it off without remembering?  I would be so thankful for any help Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
www.dashpay.io
anybody tried these guys?
cointellect.com

i dont know if they have x11 option...

Yeah I've got a few contracts with them... So far so good...
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
Bitcoin Will Bite the Dust featuring Kevin Dowd

http://youtu.be/Qlydjg1tiso

I don't agree, but always is interesting to listen some reasonable criticism about Bitcoin (Bitcoin mining mainly) And think about in relation to DarkCoin.

Wow, I just watched this; lucid, to the point, and impeccable logic! The only point he does not address is the self-interest of the minors as an inhibition to gaining total control. Unfortunately this would not apply to hackers or, more likely, governments absconding with the three to five servers in control of various mining pools. Dowd's gem linking Ghash with Ghostbusters was priceless. Yes, DRK needs to address this issue.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1005
DASH is the future of crypto payments!
Masternodes increase payments

if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; //25.0% - 2014-10-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20; //30.0% - 2014-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20; //35.0% - 2014-12-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40; //37.5% - 2015-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40; //40.0% - 2015-02-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40; //42.5% - 2015-03-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40; //45.0% - 2015-04-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40; //47.5% - 2015-05-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40; //50.0% - 2015-07-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5% - 2015-09-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0% - 2015-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5% - 2016-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0% - 2016-03-23

30% goes live with 175280 block
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
To celebrate the 23th Nov and the increase to 30%, I'm installing a new MN  Grin Grin

So in ~10 minutes :
#MN=#MN+1
full member
Activity: 201
Merit: 100
anybody tried these guys?
cointellect.com

i dont know if they have x11 option...
legendary
Activity: 1442
Merit: 1018
Is it possible to mine DRK still?

Of course... it's POW. Whether or not you have the hash power and cheap electric to make it worth while it unknown in your case.
legendary
Activity: 1118
Merit: 1002
I wasnt too happy with the latency I was getting with some p2pools I tried. So I made one closer to me. If anyone else would like to connect to a Texas node feel free to try it out,
http://107.191.44.236:7903/static/#

I've been having the same problem and I have a server I can use but I haven't gotten around to setting one up. Could u point me to a guide on how to set it up it would be much appreciated

I used this guide: http://blog.crahl.ca/p2pool-setup/#comments

But had to include more dependency that I found here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/how-to-set-up-ec2-t1-micro-ubuntu-for-masternode-part-2-3.241/

Good luck man. One thing I would like to know is how to change the "Node Peers" amount
newbie
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Merit: 0
Is it possible to mine DRK still?
full member
Activity: 280
Merit: 102
I wasnt too happy with the latency I was getting with some p2pools I tried. So I made one closer to me. If anyone else would like to connect to a Texas node feel free to try it out,
http://107.191.44.236:7903/static/#

I've been having the same problem and I have a server I can use but I haven't gotten around to setting one up. Could u point me to a guide on how to set it up it would be much appreciated
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1014
Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
TAO'S MASTERNODE UPDATE GUIDE FOR DUMMIES updated with simpler firewall that re-starts upon reboot! The old version did not. Thanks, thelonecrouton!

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/taos-masternode-setup-guide-for-dummies.2680/

If anyone would like to switch firewalls to the new version, I will explain how in the update guide on the thread!

Cheers!
sr. member
Activity: 882
Merit: 250
I REALLY like what is happening with the price from the technical perspective.
This stabilisation is really good. Bought a little bit more Smiley

darkcoin is steady but it will rise soon
legendary
Activity: 1118
Merit: 1002
I wasnt too happy with the latency I was getting with some p2pools I tried. So I made one closer to me. If anyone else would like to connect to a Texas node feel free to try it out,
http://107.191.44.236:7903/static/#
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