Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency - page 4324. (Read 9723748 times)
August 17, 2014, 11:26:24 AM
Ok, sorry to have bothered all and sundry. See you guys in another thread. I hope Drk recovers. Good luck.
August 17, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
August 17, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?
-We need to do xyz because the sky is falling!
-OK go do it then.
-I can't because the sky is falling!
August 17, 2014, 11:21:49 AM
The current price is a signal. Ignore at your peril. The market does not like Drk as currently formulated.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
it not just darkcoin being sold off but all anoncoins and alts/bitcoin in general.
the market will buy dark when all bugs are fixed 100% and it's proven stable for a few days/weeks. everyone is just waiting for the bottom to renter. look at the low volume.
the instamining issue was unfortunate but has worked itself out for months and i think we are seeing the last of those problems now with this last sell-off. evan seems to agree about the weak hands selling off.
the block reward change was very smart as so not to end up like litecoin which has unsustainable inflation.
anyone worried about those issues has already sold off or never bought in anyway.
you seem to be preparing to sell off and hope bitcoin can solve it's anon problems. it can't and we won't open source until the market is locked into darkcoin.
what other anon coins are even in the same league as darkcoin?
August 17, 2014, 11:19:48 AM
"Even the truest of true believers can feel like a bag holder at the wrong moment"
- KryptoFoo, 2014
This too shall pass. Tough days but best to sit on your hands. Do not be tempted to sell for something else. We have bright days ahead for darkcoin.
- KryptoFoo, 2014
This too shall pass. Tough days but best to sit on your hands. Do not be tempted to sell for something else. We have bright days ahead for darkcoin.
August 17, 2014, 11:15:20 AM
The current price is a signal. Ignore at your peril. The market does not like Drk as currently formulated.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
it not just darkcoin being sold off but all anoncoins and alts/bitcoin in general.
the market will buy dark when all bugs are fixed 100% and it's proven stable for a few days/weeks. everyone is just waiting for the bottom to renter. look at the low volume.
the instamining issue was unfortunate but has worked itself out for months and i think we are seeing the last of those problems now with this last sell-off. evan seems to agree about the weak hands selling off.
the block reward change was very smart as so not to end up like litecoin which has unsustainable inflation.
anyone worried about those issues has already sold off or never bought in anyway.
you seem to be preparing to sell off and hope bitcoin can solve it's anon problems. it can't and we won't open source until the market is locked into darkcoin.
what other anon coins are even in the same league as darkcoin?
August 17, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
And what's the point anyway? As soon as you spend those BTC they're traceable straight back to you unless you jump through a lot of hoops. Why not just use DRK, that's what it's for.
Totally agreed but i can't do that now. Is there any way to bootstrap merchant acceptance?
August 17, 2014, 11:14:06 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
August 17, 2014, 11:11:04 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?
benthach f u troll xc bagholding loser.
Since last week dyleziczombie ( friend of ozzie) has dissapeard with funds, he could be dumping other peoples coins and rebuying more for himself and ozz.
ozz we have heard your opinions, we respected you, but now you are trolling by repeating the same negative comments over and over for days, so ....fuck you, sell your drk and go buy xmr.
I still remember camo and splawik talking about selling a "few" drk to pay bills, camo was curious as to why spalwiks bills were so high...i think this may have panicked camo into dumping first..
camo is a fucking dick, lost his coins bullshit ,but they can appear on mintthere was no need to be a liar and ruin things for others. ghostplayer and many others offered help, but camo so full of shit he didnt need help. . Complety destroyed this thread with his bullshit abusing anyone and everyone. He defo been dumping. I dont care about the dumpings from anyone , no matter how big, but why try to destroy the coins with constant fud....
Now if you dump your holdings most people move on to a new forum, if they stay here and troll for a few days after dumping it becomes obvious they are the ones who dumped and are looking to buy back in cheaper.
I really hope you guys never come back here, sell all your coins and fuck off to the next new thing.
Camo go wipe your arse with your GUVpaper then eat it!
August 17, 2014, 11:10:58 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
And what's the point anyway? As soon as you spend those BTC they're traceable straight back to you unless you jump through a lot of hoops. Why not just use DRK, that's what it's for.
August 17, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
And what's the point anyway? As soon as you spend those BTC they're traceable straight back to you unless you jump through a lot of hoops. Why not just use DRK, that's what it's for.
Totally agreed but i can't do that now. Is there any way to bootstrap merchant acceptance?
August 17, 2014, 11:09:39 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?
August 17, 2014, 11:08:17 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
August 17, 2014, 11:08:09 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?
August 17, 2014, 11:07:53 AM
@ozziecoin Youve made your point clear I am sure Evan will take all opinions into consideration, but youve been repeating yourself since yesterday so I will respectfully put you in my ignore list until you have something new to contribute.
August 17, 2014, 11:07:04 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?
And what's the point anyway? As soon as you spend those BTC they're traceable straight back to you unless you jump through a lot of hoops. Why not just use DRK, that's what it's for.
August 17, 2014, 11:06:17 AM
I personally think going closed is what is killing drk. The experts like AA are avoiding it and the whales did not react to RC4. Also markets will not form around closed source tech. There was a window to gain the support of the privacy community. Drk was leading that race.
Nothing is killing DRK.
It's a tiny and volatile market, currently filled with ADD lemmings, prices will fluctuate. Meanwhile clever people are getting on with building something amazing.
Anyone whining about the current price who isn't actively participating in some way to add value to the DRK ecosystem should really shut the fuck up, it isn't anyone else's job to give you a free lunch.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
August 17, 2014, 11:06:09 AM
I personally think going closed is what is killing drk. The experts like AA are avoiding it and the whales did not react to RC4. Also markets will not form around closed source tech. There was a window to gain the support of the privacy community. Drk was leading that race.
Nothing is killing DRK.
It's a tiny and volatile market, currently filled with ADD lemmings, prices will fluctuate. Meanwhile clever people are getting on with building something amazing.
Anyone whining about the current price who isn't actively participating in some way to add value to the DRK ecosystem should really shut the fuck up, it isn't anyone else's job to give you a free lunch.
You think I'm getting a free lunch? I invested in Drk. The price drop surprised me. I'm being factual about what happened. No amount of wishful thinking or new tech is going to get whales investing when they did not invest after RC4.
At some point Drk will be forced to open source but by that time the market will have moved on. They will be either using another open source anon tech or fork Drk and start fresh.
The large mining at the start, block reward change midway and name is proving too big a burden to overcome. It's baggage that someone will discard. That's why Drk may have the best tech but the market is selling it off. The market is betting against Drk. That is a fact.
'The market' is as I said is currently a very tiny group of (mostly) idiots. That's isn't a market anyone should be caring about.
The real market is out there in the big wide, the ones with real money who are crying out for a way of keeping that money private. They are the target demographic, not a few clowns with short attention spans in the crypto scene.
+1
Some of us are here because we believe in a real project with real objectives and a real and talented group of devs. This is a rollercoaster, if someone can't put up with it, please dump and leave the thread. This is not an easy game
“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”
― Henry Ford
Fuck the markets, we are building something real here.
August 17, 2014, 11:04:45 AM
Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.
So if that's what you think needs doing, why not get off your arse and do it instead of moaning that nobody is doing it for you?
Ozzie like the rest of us holders is feeling the heavy weigh the recent selloff. I think any ideas should be open for discussion. Not sure if open source would save us now but good to have a discussion on it.
August 17, 2014, 11:04:24 AM
....
What happens if you keep waiting? It seems to me that since you started with one huge input that it needs to do a large number of "splits" and it is just not finished yet. Given that splits occur 1 time every 10 blocks for this scenario I would imagine that this step would take a very long time...
Or did the splits just stop randomly at one point? (link to test block explorer is not working for me for some reason)
https://i.imgur.com/QnBMnqA.png
Wondering what would happen if I have these 12K not in 1 but in 2 smaller inputs... by 6K each... will try that now.
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