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droptable

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Quote from: salmion on June 07, 2014, 05:58:13 PM

/rant
Overvalued? I don't think so.. Have you mined some of the shit out there right now? It's depressing. Right now volume is elsewhere. And honestly good luck with any of the pow+pos coins. quick up and slam down. Oh and with vague anonymity promises. DRK is the real deal and honestly will eventually be priced a lot higher. Right now evan and the team are working there asses for drk coin to succeed and we should be promoting each update, fending off fud and looking for places drk can be used in future. Once all the updates are done and dark achieves a stable price we need actual ways of using dark outside our crypto world. This is something we all can do. I'm all for learning about trading properly but trading on chart patterns is pretty self fulfilling. What I mean by this is if everyone believes shape x means Y then they will trade accordingly. Or play cat and mouse with the belief that other trades will follow Y. A chart only shows what came before and what's happening right now. After that is a more or less educated guess. The point of my ramble is to say traders will trade (they don't add to the value of the coin they aim to make profit) and right now they are trading other coins and we should be focusing on building the other fundamentals of an ecash. Places to spend. Markets, lending, etc. Adoption beyond the miner/crytpo trader environment in which we all play. That is what will make this coin unbeatable by competition. And will keep it stable (at a way higher price than it is now)

/rantover

TLDR Let's stop talking about chart patterns and start talking about getting DRK beyond our crypto zone. A private store of value for everyone. Safe secure ecash. With a kickass master node system that can add all sorts of functionality.

bump

tombtc

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Is there going to be a wallet update before the fork? 9.4.11 is the actual source.

Sm00kew

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Price is probably falling bacuse people want to make some extra money with other coins before 18th june so they're selling DRK's cuzz they think price won't get higher before 18th june but when all that money comes back and panic buying begins...^^

sin242

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As many a wise man has said... follow the money.

Lots of it moving around and hasn't settled yet. Could land on dark, could land somewhere else...

But my moneys (literally) on dark for it in the next day or two.

Slipknot79

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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World

Cum to VRC, buy some and make some BTC. Cool

bigc1984

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all these new anony coins are pretty lame compared to darkcoin... except 1...but its a secret ;=)

Ignition75

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Every morning is like Christmas morning at the moment for me, each time I wake up DRK is that little bit cheaper...

Every hater and FUDster out there reading this, you've been given a gift, one last chance to snap up some DRK at a reasonable price...

foolio

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Quote from: bitcoinsid on June 07, 2014, 10:29:38 PM

forgot to mention , mikemike , the day you first posted your drk going down chart analysis (page 1774 here june 5th) was the same time drk was dumped on exchanges from 170k to 150k roughly. (250btc worth dumped on mint the same time u posted here)
so mike i know u dumped drk and then pointed to charts and began tryin to tell people here to look at bitcoin bubble in the hope that you could buy back cheaper. the number of coins dumped also tells me that you are not working alone. i also notice there is over 100btc buys at 150k im guessin thats u tryin to get bak in ;-) because you realised that the weekend has almost past and people arent dumpin( drk holders are clever, most weak hands have gone)
while you tryin to analize charts, you are being analyzed by others Tongue

A lot of assumptions there. And I'm not sure I really follow your logic. He came in here and said that the price was going to plummet over some days, (he actually said weeks) and that he wanted to buy back in later cheaper at that time. Now you're accusing him of trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do?

If he dumped then, he obviously believed the price was going down as he claimed he thought it would. Is that him trying to buy back in?... who the hell knows? I don't see any evidence to support that idea, but so what if it is... maybe he changed his mind now.

It doesn't make any sense that he came in here warned at the same time as dumping, if he thought that he had to try and scare people into dumping the price that low, and that he was relying on that in order to get mass coin back cheaper. That just seems asininely stupid to me. People with big money in this game tend to think for themselves, and this forum has mostly believers in this project. There is no way he's that dumb to try something that stupid. I just can't see it. A forum warning is just not going to move the price by that kind of magnitude, or in a way that would allow him to buy so many coins back cheap. Not even I'm that dumb, and I'm pretty sure Mike is orders of magnitude more aware of market dynamics than I am. Only a very small time operator could hope to adjust the price by any meaningful amount simply by giving a warning like that.

I think you're really stretching to try and see something here buddy. I suspected he might have deceptive motives because he was getting ready to make a buy and wanted more people to be putting sells in so he could get them cheaper... that makes more sense to me than what you are accusing him of, and isn't it kind of irresponsible to make accusations like this based on nothing but blatant assumptions?

I think benefit of the doubt and innocent until proven guilty applies. I take his warning in good faith until I have a good reason to do otherwise. Of course, now you'll probably accuse me of being in some kind of conspiracy with his collective of blackhat ninja traders. I'm really going to be laughing if he turns out to be right, and I hope he is actually simply because it would be more profitable that way.

Icebucket

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Checked my crystal ball and saw the future Shocked

Here is some TA and Speculation.

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/08-june-resistances-and-crystal-ball-prediction.1146/

The later chart is really just for fun, so I can look at it in 9 days Grin

Ignition75

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Quote from: mstrongbow on June 07, 2014, 11:48:27 AM

Any recommendations for choosing a Darkcoin pool?

Here are a few of the pools i am considering mining with...
http://darkcoin.miningpoolhub.com/
http://www.drkpool.com/index.php
http://dark.suchpool.pw/index.php
https://www2.coinmine.pl/drk/index.php

Thanks!

I have always found xHash to be solid, good interface too.

Ignition75

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Quote from: beyond1999 on June 06, 2014, 10:36:22 PM

how to mine darkcoin,
anyone give me help

Mate, PM me with any questions you have, I'm happy to help...

foolio

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Quote from: slapper on June 07, 2014, 11:12:12 PM

And watch out for 2 other traders who will do nothing but post hand-in-dick formations and other gibberish only to find out they are being analyzed here and dangerously close to being added to the DRK feg list from a few pages ago.

I actually appreciate those hand in dick posts quite a bit more than the arrogant prick ones. There... hopefully I have now earned a place in your precious fucking list if I hadn't already, I would actually consider it an honor if you would ad me, thanks

chaeplin

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Testnet status http://tdrk.poolhash.org/ has a lot of information now.

Code:

When	Date/Time	tdiff	Number	Diff	Subsidy/nxt block	Who	Masternode Payee[from confirmed block]	Masternode Payee value	Masternode nxt block Payee[from getblocktemplate]
just now	06/08 14:13:14	15	15905	0.580	150	nomp	moqpGCABQQefuujQ9nsAMJVEiwAXyAMw6o	30.014	mqGXfPgqp2Gr4qKm2CSjeCHjJnAhimFMQB
1 min ago	06/08 14:12:04	31	15904	0.532	150	nomp	ms9JqmHQ6QrLbeFFyAp22cofqnR5PNuHkK	30.000	moqpGCABQQefuujQ9nsAMJVEiwAXyAMw6o
5 mins ago	06/08 14:07:54	2	15903	0.559	150	nomp	mwP6g2kjMPWA5F59BqvPgfWeFbAyUr2CzV	30.000	ms9JqmHQ6QrLbeFFyAp22cofqnR5PNuHkK

As observation, Masternode paid (reward + collected txfee) * 0.2.

TanteStefana2

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Quote from: dewdeded on June 07, 2014, 11:15:09 PM

Bitcoins CoinJoin implementation would be on client/wallet-level, without masternodes or extra fees.
Creating a setup where every client/node is taking part in CoinJoin tx.

-> no attack vendors, no extra setup, more secure (because more CJ participiants), better network distribution (whole network is secured, looks like 90% of the DRK MN will be AWS instances ...)

if experience and tested source code will be avaible from DarkCoin and DarkWallet project it isnt very unrealitsic, that Bitcoin will implemenent CoinJoin (Wladimir says he wants CJ, its an open pull request since november, Maxwell, Todd, Sipa, want CJ, Gavin is out), so its not unlikely, more like 50/50 ATM IMHO
i guess, they will in like 10 or 12 months include an CJ implementation in Bitcoin Core, but turn it off default

I'm sorry, but you have NO IDEA of what we went through to get to where we are. EVERYTHING has been well thought out and vetted. Nothing is more complex than it needs to be, and everything that has been done is for a needed checks and balance system that can not in any practical way, be cracked.

Actually, it would require a small book to explain, but no. Bitcoin will never, and can never do this, ever. DRK has started out as a simpler coinjoin system, but has progressed to something much more.

TanteStefana2

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Quote from: coins101 on June 07, 2014, 09:17:44 PM

Over the next few weeks, you will likely get one of these

Who says you can't have a bit of harmless fun while watching a $1bn project unfold?

Hey! Do I have a camera on me? That likeness is uncanny!

TanteStefana2

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Quote from: minerjav on June 07, 2014, 09:09:55 PM

Quote from: Kai Proctor on June 07, 2014, 08:29:28 PM

Directly from QC Crypto-coin labs

Do we have a geek competition going on here? Gotta say, we're a house full o' geeks, or so I thought. But these pictures... um....make us look cool dude! Grin

thunderdrum

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Quote from: TanteStefana2 on June 07, 2014, 06:46:39 PM

I know we're always talking about price on this thread, and how well and difficult it is to mine drk, and what we can earn with masternodes, etc... And when I think of everyone buying drk, and holding it to store the value of their fiat, I get a feeling like the most important feature of crypto currency is being forgotten. Basically the reason for it's existence, is it's usefulness. Its usefulness in trade and in transfers between people of different countries, speed, etc...

So in the end, that is what we need DRK for. The rest is just the infrastructure of the coin to make it useful to people. Normal people who want privacy or who need privacy.

Anyway, point being.... well, my train of thought actually trying to reconcile what the real price of DRK should be. Soon we will have privacy up to 1000 coins at a time, big huge plus. Tons of coins are held to be masternodes and for investment purposes, another huge plus. But exchanging for cash is a little difficult at least here in the USA, When a trusted company like Coinbase allows us to buy and sell dark directly, it'll be a huge plus for me because I'm a little wary of the newer exchanges who are opening up drk/$ trades. so still a little negative.

Now thinking about the only competition we have, Bitcoin, and it's value.... gotta remember it's ahead of us in popularity and has been around the longest.... And remembering that DRK is still very new on the scene. We won't be that "new" much longer, as time goes by fast in the crypto world. Considering all this, I know that DRK should be worth a hell of a lot more than what it's going for now. So what's with the price now? I sure don't know, but if I had some money, I'd be buying the stuff up like no tomorrow! Wish I could! LOL

Agree, Well written.

Advanced algorithm
The development route clear and firm with a lots of Ace developer working on the project.
An Active, Open community with a lots smart guys.
And finally, There is a huge potential in the future which make it more easy to USE for people in their daily life.(Transmission speed has more practical significance/High efficiency in the blockchain/and the most important: anonymity).

I think after Evan and the dev team finishing perfect the function for DRK(MasterNode,Cold storage,Checkpointing....). The community will pay more attention to the various applications which is closely related to people's life with DRK.

That's why I put more investment focus on DRK.

Ozziecoin

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Quote from: dewdeded on June 07, 2014, 11:15:09 PM

Bitcoins CoinJoin implementation would be on client/wallet-level, without masternodes or extra fees.
Creating a setup where every client/node is taking part in CoinJoin tx.

-> no attack vendors, no extra setup, more secure (because more CJ participiants), better network distribution (whole network is secured, looks like 90% of the DRK MN will be AWS instances ...)

if experience and tested source code will be avaible from DarkCoin and DarkWallet project it isnt very unrealitic, that Bitcoin will implemenent CoinJoin (Wladimir says he wants CJ, its on pull request, Maxwell, Todd, Sipa, want CJ, Gavin is out), so its not unlikely, more like 50/50 ATM IMHO
i guess, they will in like 10 or 12 months include an CJ implementation in Bitcoin Core, but turn it off default

10 to 12 months is a long time. In the meantime, DarkSend will already provide high level functional privacy (close to anonymity) even assuming masternodes are not secure just by running DarkSend multiple times.

dewdeded

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Bitcoins CoinJoin implementation would be on client/wallet-level, without masternodes or extra fees.
Creating a setup where every client/node is taking part in CoinJoin tx.

-> no attack vendors, no extra setup, more secure (because more CJ participiants), better network distribution (whole network is secured, looks like 90% of the DRK MN will be AWS instances ...)

if experience and tested source code will be avaible from DarkCoin and DarkWallet project it isnt very unrealitsic, that Bitcoin will implemenent CoinJoin (Wladimir says he wants CJ, its an open pull request since november, Maxwell, Todd, Sipa, want CJ, Gavin is out), so its not unlikely, more like 50/50 ATM IMHO
i guess, they will in like 10 or 12 months include an CJ implementation in Bitcoin Core, but turn it off default

slapper

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Quote from: bitcoinsid on June 07, 2014, 10:29:38 PM

forgot to mention , mikemike , the day you first posted your drk going down chart analysis (page 1774 here june 5th) was the same time drk was dumped on exchanges from 170k to 150k roughly. (250btc worth dumped on mint the same time u posted here)
so mike i know u dumped drk and then pointed to charts and began tryin to tell people here to look at bitcoin bubble in the hope that you could buy back cheaper. the number of coins dumped also tells me that you are not working alone. i also notice there is over 100btc buys at 150k im guessin thats u tryin to get bak in ;-) because you realised that the weekend has almost past and people arent dumpin( drk holders are clever, most weak hands have gone)
while you tryin to analize charts, you are being analyzed by others Tongue

Awesome observations and yes "we"/DRK regulars from the beginning are well aware. There are multiple FUD threads and scammy bloggers slinging mud on DRK but it has never worked for months. Read the LTC forums and how those subservient shitheads talk down DRK for months. These pro traders are just finding out how it works in DRK.

Add mike3 to the troll fegs list.

And watch out for 2 other traders who will do nothing but post hand-in-dick formations and other gibberish only to find out they are being analyzed here and dangerously close to being added to the DRK feg list from a few pages ago.

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